Studio Albums

[Andrew G. Doe]

I've seen them on ebay but as a bundle, hoping to get one by itself.

No such thing.

In the US, no. Elsewhere, yes.

[AndrewHickey]

Yeah, I have a Reprise label CATP 'standalone'. Cost me peanuts as well. Although it's not an original pressing, as of course that was the bundle.

Carrying on my run of stating the obvious, if you're listening to these things you should really pick up the bundle, as it's the best sounding Pet Sounds on vinyl! And you can find them for reasonable money, mine was only £10.

BTW, how does the CATP bundle sound over the standalone?

To the OP, IMO, seek out US pressings as a preference - releases from colonies and outposts are varied and not as balanced - to my old ears

Yeah, my UK original sounds HORRIBLE. Mastered Muddily and quietly. I bought the US Two-Fer for the Fantastic Pet Sounds, but the improvement on CATP blew me away even more than the PS LP!

Certainly my UK copy sounds muddy compared to the CD -- I've not heard the US vinyl to compare.

[monicker]

Picked up a Lana Del Rey album the other day from my local vinyl shop just because it was there and was cheap. Sounds great, even though her deliberate "anti-production" won't sound exactly amazing in any format.

I'm curious what you mean by "anti-production" because i am really into her and that's kind of making me scratch my head.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Because her stuff sounds like something someone made at home on good but consumer grade gear. It's like a friend down the street having a sister you have a weird sort of crush on and she asks you to come into the room (making sure you shut the door behind you) and listen to some songs she's been working on but you're not supposed to tell anyone about it.... Like her or not, she's pure expression. She seems to give no sh*t about doing what a pop-tart (or indie-queen) of the current strain is supposed to do. Her stuff is awkward and imperfect yet brimming with confidence at the same time.... Defiantly head scratching material of the best sort.

[monicker]

That's really, really well put and pretty much exactly how i think of her/have described her before. It's nice to hear that people are looking past the surface and seeing those qualities in her. She's undoubtedly an anomaly. I think the syntax in my post was awkward, and thus my point confusing: liking her is not what makes me scratch my head (it makes sense on so many levels; by the way, i can't keep track of how many parallels i've drawn between her and the Beach Boys, not to mention having lost count of how many times she has mentioned them in interviews), what confused me about your post was your description "anti-production" because i've never heard that perspective in regards to Born to Die, an album that is often described as overproduced. "Anti-production" makes me think of no production, maybe something like Wild Honey or Smiley Smile, what a lot of people would describe as "under produced." Nonetheless, i see your point about the record's production. You should check out her first record if you haven't already--where the real magic is.

Sorry for hijacking this thread.

[John Malone]

The Walls of my basement den are decorated with framed Beach Boys album covers. I've got all of the original studio albums except for SIP and S&S. I'd like to see a vinyl release for both only to complete my decorative collection!

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

SIP did come out on vinyl.... didn't it?

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

That's really, really well put and pretty much exactly how i think of her/have described her before. It's nice to hear that people are looking past the surface and seeing those qualities in her. She's undoubtedly an anomaly. I think the syntax in my post was awkward, and thus my point confusing: liking her is not what makes me scratch my head (it makes sense on so many levels; by the way, i can't keep track of how many parallels i've drawn between her and the Beach Boys, not to mention having lost count of how many times she has mentioned them in interviews), what confused me about your post was your description "anti-production" because i've never heard that perspective in regards to Born to Die, an album that is often described as overproduced. "Anti-production" makes me think of no production, maybe something like Wild Honey or Smiley Smile, what a lot of people would describe as "under produced." Nonetheless, i see your point about the record's production. You should check out her first record if you haven't already--where the real magic is.

Sorry for hijacking this thread.

Very well put as well..... What I think I meant by ant-production was to contrast it to all the stupid things both pop stars and indie "kids" think they have to do nowadays. Lana Del Rey seems to think (quite rightly) that her ideas are more important than their execution of how they might rise or fall as to whatever professional standards people seem to expect and take for granted. If you ignore her voice (which isn't "perfect" either but has perfect character, which she seems to grasp) they are quite clumsy and could have been done lots and lots "better" ... But this is something that excites me about any kind of art. That feeling that if the person were to sit back, take a breath and really consider what they're doing and give a damn about it being "good" enough for people to judge: the idea will be gone! It's like how Brian dubbed Pet Sounds down really clumsily and quickly as if it would escape his grasp if he took too much time or thought about it....

[I. Spaceman]

SIP did come out on vinyl.... didn't it?

Made In Korea. Appropriate.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I remain to be convinced of the legitimacy of that release.

[I. Spaceman]

I remain to be convinced of the legitimacy of that release.

Ha! In more ways than one.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

I remain to be convinced of the legitimacy of that release.

I don't care - it's all I'm missing! (screw S&S)

[The Heartical Don]

I remain to be convinced of the legitimacy of that release.

Ha! In more ways than one.

 

[The Heartical Don]

i really like the sound of my Still Cruisin' LP - I think... I don't tend to play it.

Agree. The SC vinyl sounds awesome - warm, well-defined, crisp, it is a real advertisement for what vinyl can offer. Thanks for this comment. One of the occasions where I never had the tiniest impulse to re-buy on CD.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

i really like the sound of my Still Cruisin' LP - I think... I don't tend to play it.

Agree. The SC vinyl sounds awesome - warm, well-defined, crisp, it is a real advertisement for what vinyl can offer. Thanks for this comment. One of the occasions where I never had the tiniest impulse to re-buy on CD.

Yeah, I got the CD for 50p at a record fair, but only so I had - I've never actually played it! BB85 also sounds incredibly better on vinyl than digitally!

[The Heartical Don]

i really like the sound of my Still Cruisin' LP - I think... I don't tend to play it.

Agree. The SC vinyl sounds awesome - warm, well-defined, crisp, it is a real advertisement for what vinyl can offer. Thanks for this comment. One of the occasions where I never had the tiniest impulse to re-buy on CD.

Yeah, I got the CD for 50p at a record fair, but only so I had - I've never actually played it! BB85 also sounds incredibly better on vinyl than digitally!

Ha... that is why I never bothered with getting BB85 on CD too. To me it seemed 'digital-to-the-power-of-two', so to speak - the album itself is pretty 'electronic' in itself already.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

i really like the sound of my Still Cruisin' LP - I think... I don't tend to play it.

Agree. The SC vinyl sounds awesome - warm, well-defined, crisp, it is a real advertisement for what vinyl can offer. Thanks for this comment. One of the occasions where I never had the tiniest impulse to re-buy on CD.

Yeah, I got the CD for 50p at a record fair, but only so I had - I've never actually played it! BB85 also sounds incredibly better on vinyl than digitally!

Ha... that is why I never bothered with getting BB85 on CD too. To me it seemed 'digital-to-the-power-of-two', so to speak - the album itself is pretty 'electronic' in itself already.

Yeah, it certainly allows it to breathe and takes away that nasty digital sharpness. I play most of my LPs to death anyway, the only one of which isn't original is PS, since the original UK mono is, well, blerrgh. Techniclly same applies to CATP - I just use the CATP US two fer for both  .

[SamMcK]

I own a nice nm original US 1st press mono of Pet Sounds which sounds ok but a bit underwhelming, it's more of a nice centerpiece to my small Beach Boys collection until I can get a minty C&TP original which is supposed to be better. However original UK parlophone Mono Beatles albums are possibly the best sounding releases i've heard on 60's vinyl.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

I own a nice nm original US 1st press mono of Pet Sounds which sounds ok but a bit underwhelming, it's more of a nice centerpiece to my small Beach Boys collection until I can get a minty C&TP original which is supposed to be better. However original UK parlophone Mono Beatles albums are possibly the best sounding releases i've heard on 60's vinyl.

yeah, i really like all my UK 60's albums (BB wise and most others), but Pet Sounds is a flippin' Duophonic Fold-down!

[SamMcK]

A US pressing of Friends was a big disappointment when I got it as well although that mainly had to do with the fact that I ordered a pressing of ebay that was apparently near mint but when I played it had pops and clicks all over it! Grr..

[I. Spaceman]

60's Capitol vinyl is garbage, unless you find one that has been played less than three times. The best ever Friends (as well as Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley, Honey and 20/20) is the 80's Capitol green label issue.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

60's Capitol vinyl is garbage, unless you find one that has been played less than three times. The best ever Friends (as well as Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley, Honey and 20/20) is the 80's Capitol green label issue.

I assume you're just referring to US there? For instance, my UK Today! sounds spectacular! (as spectacular as the mud that it is can be) http://www.4shared.com/mp3/1LRuEIi2/Do_You_Wanna_Dance__Vinyl_.html?

[I. Spaceman]

60's Capitol vinyl is garbage, unless you find one that has been played less than three times. The best ever Friends (as well as Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley, Honey and 20/20) is the 80's Capitol green label issue.

I assume you're just referring to US there? For instance, my UK Today! sounds spectacular! (as spectacular as the mud that it is can be) http://www.4shared.com/mp3/1LRuEIi2/Do_You_Wanna_Dance__Vinyl_.html?

Oh yeah, the vintage UK pressings are great, as is nearly always the case.

[SMiLE Brian]

60's Capitol vinyl is garbage, unless you find one that has been played less than three times. The best ever Friends (as well as Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley, Honey and 20/20) is the 80's Capitol green label issue.

The early albums I own on Capitol from 1962-1965 are piss poor for the most part.  Why is that the case with Capitol?

About the only Capitol LPs I play from time to time are the mono "BBs deluxe set" along with a 1968 pressing of The Band's "The Music from Big Pink".

[I. Spaceman]

60's Capitol vinyl is garbage, unless you find one that has been played less than three times. The best ever Friends (as well as Party, Pet Sounds, Smiley, Honey and 20/20) is the 80's Capitol green label issue.

The early albums I own on Capitol from 1962-1965 are piss poor for the most part.  Why is that the case with Capitol?

About the only Capitol LPs I play from time to time are the mono "BBs deluxe set" along with a 1968 pressing of The Band's "The Music from Big Pink".

They pressed on crap vinyl, likely recycled from melted-down recalled LPs. Things got so bad during the 69-70 green label era at Capitol that many of the copies of the first pressing of The Band's self-titled LP had a built-in skip. Around this time, there was a consumer outcry about bad pressing, which led to an industry standard being imposed by the RIAA. After that, Capitol became one of the most reliable labels for good virgin vinyl pressings, particularly from 1978 though the end of the vinyl era.