The Beach Boys: Stamos, Love, Johnston

[Doo Dah]

What an epic fail - 2% raised out of a target goal. Hooboy.

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Pity. We should have chipped in and had Andrew ask the questions. 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

[KittyKat]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Yeah, but this is THE BEACH BOYS we're talking about. Up there in that sacred trio of earth shattering bands (Beatles/Beach Boys/Stones) ... I love a lot of those other acts, but they are exactly that: middle-level....

"Be True To Your Tide Pool"

[hypehat]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Indeed! And I'm the world's biggest Mike fan! I just think he's finally gone too far...

It's like "Wow, we just played Royal Albert Hall, what's next? Hey, Sea World sounds like the logical next step up, right"!!? ... Mike/Bruce playing state fairs is fine, no harm done. But SEA WORLD??? It's just beyond lame....

Unless they bring Al up all to do Don't Fight The Sea with Mike and Bruce underwater in a shark tank.... Or, I suppose Sea World is finally a logical place for Bruce to wear tiny white swim trunks on stage...

[SMiLE Brian]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

[hypehat]

Indeed! And I'm the world's biggest Mike fan! I just think he's finally gone too far...

It's like "Wow, we just played Royal Albert Hall, what's next? Hey, Sea World sounds like the logical next step up, right"!!? ... Mike/Bruce playing state fairs is fine, no harm done. But SEA WORLD??? It's just beyond lame....

Unless they bring Al up all to do Don't Fight The Sea with Mike and Bruce underwater in a shark tank.... Or, I suppose Sea World is finally a logical place for Bruce to wear tiny white swim trunks on stage...

Absolutely right. To somehow think that this is what The Beach Boys should be is such a surreal idea....

[Pretty Funky]

Put it into perspective. The Beach Boys have been played the 'Seaworlds' (and worse) of the concert circut since they started.

Its just the way of the business and like it or not we just have to get over it. I look at it this way. In the 50's and 60's it was common for TV programmes featuring various artists, including the Beach Boys I guess, that were sponsored by tobacco companies. Sure, we can look back now and be disgusted but it was normal then. Its normal today to play these locations. I have a problem with casino gigs but the Beach Boys have been playing those for decades, including last year. Same with private shows. Hasn't Bob Dylan done these? I put him up there with the Boss and U2.

Hey as venues go, Seaworld could be worse.

http://c0026106.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/414165fbf75b4dcb841c51143f24a475_bandsbrewbbq5_780x438.jpg


Oh, and for anyone who wasn't around here in 2009, here is my 'concert low' of the bands career!

http://www.adn.com/2009/09/01/919310/band-brings-surfing-music-to-shores.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ja1d0yXGK4

[ontor pertawst]

Fig 545376. The Threat of Endless Summer Hangs Over SeaWorld

[JohnMill]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love. 

[AndrewHickey]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love. 

And I still don't even see why it's an issue. It's a venue that will pay them to play, and has an audience that want to see them. Why should that be a problem for anyone?

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love.  

And I still don't even see why it's an issue. It's a venue that will pay them to play, and has an audience that want to see them. Why should that be a problem for anyone?

It's lame because it's Sea World and no one's going to go to Sea World to see The Beach Boys. They're going to pay to get into sea world and then to get drunk and gorge on BBQ and then maybe stumble over to where Michale MacDonald or some other has-been is playing, but then wait "Holy sh*t! Is that Mike Love" ....



 

[KittyKat]

The Mike and Bruce show have played worse and smaller places than Sea World, I'm sure, and that was my point. Artistically, their fans may think the Beach Boys are up there with the Beatles and Stones. But Joe G. Public, who would be the typical person paying $75 and up for a ticket to a large venue, may not feel that way. I was under the impression that bulk of the venues the reunited Beach Boys played were not that large, overall.  Around 6-8,000 capacity venues. Not stadiums. Not even large indoor sports arenas, apart from perhaps some venues in Europe.

BTW, Michael McDonald has a pretty sizable following among a similar demographic as the Beach Boys. The Doobie Brothers and Michael himself far outsold the Beach Boys in records/CDs from the 1970s onwards. 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Put it into perspective. The Beach Boys have been played the 'Seaworlds' (and worse) of the concert circut since they started.

Its just the way of the business and like it or not we just have to get over it. I look at it this way. In the 50's and 60's it was common for TV programmes featuring various artists, including the Beach Boys I guess, that were sponsored by tobacco companies. Sure, we can look back now and be disgusted but it was normal then. Its normal today to play these locations. I have a problem with casino gigs but the Beach Boys have been playing those for decades, including last year. Same with private shows. Hasn't Bob Dylan done these? I put him up there with the Boss and U2.

Hey as venues go, Seaworld could be worse.

http://c0026106.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/414165fbf75b4dcb841c51143f24a475_bandsbrewbbq5_780x438.jpg


Oh, and for anyone who wasn't around here in 2009, here is my 'concert low' of the bands career!

http://www.adn.com/2009/09/01/919310/band-brings-surfing-music-to-shores.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ja1d0yXGK4

Yeah, that Shoreline thing is pretty bad, but at least it was so low as to be kinda punk rock. And they did it for free with no advertizing....

The footage reminds me a bit of this though:

http://youtu.be/Jj7pDNDuoJ0

[Pretty Funky]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love.  

And I still don't even see why it's an issue. It's a venue that will pay them to play, and has an audience that want to see them. Why should that be a problem for anyone?

They're going to pay to get into sea world and then to get drunk and gorge on BBQ and then maybe stumble over to where Michale MacDonald or some other has-been is playing, but then wait "Holy sh*t! Is that Mike Love" ....



 

Now its sounding good all of a sudden!

[Pretty Funky]

Put it into perspective. The Beach Boys have been played the 'Seaworlds' (and worse) of the concert circut since they started.

Its just the way of the business and like it or not we just have to get over it. I look at it this way. In the 50's and 60's it was common for TV programmes featuring various artists, including the Beach Boys I guess, that were sponsored by tobacco companies. Sure, we can look back now and be disgusted but it was normal then. Its normal today to play these locations. I have a problem with casino gigs but the Beach Boys have been playing those for decades, including last year. Same with private shows. Hasn't Bob Dylan done these? I put him up there with the Boss and U2.

Hey as venues go, Seaworld could be worse.

http://c0026106.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/414165fbf75b4dcb841c51143f24a475_bandsbrewbbq5_780x438.jpg


Oh, and for anyone who wasn't around here in 2009, here is my 'concert low' of the bands career!

http://www.adn.com/2009/09/01/919310/band-brings-surfing-music-to-shores.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ja1d0yXGK4

Yeah, that Shoreline thing is pretty bad, but at least it was so low as to be kinda punk rock. And they did it for free with no advertizing....

The footage reminds me a bit of this though:

http://youtu.be/Jj7pDNDuoJ0

The story has this...

The unadvertised performance was sponsored by the bowling alley, which is under new ownership and booked the band for its customers and others, said manager Kelly Anderson

....which implies it was a paid gig. Good folks got it for free though. Don't know how many gigs get to Alaska.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wLB2OPtPFM

[Pretty Funky]

Put it into perspective. The Beach Boys have been played the 'Seaworlds' (and worse) of the concert circut since they started.

Its just the way of the business and like it or not we just have to get over it. I look at it this way. In the 50's and 60's it was common for TV programmes featuring various artists, including the Beach Boys I guess, that were sponsored by tobacco companies. Sure, we can look back now and be disgusted but it was normal then. Its normal today to play these locations. I have a problem with casino gigs but the Beach Boys have been playing those for decades, including last year. Same with private shows. Hasn't Bob Dylan done these? I put him up there with the Boss and U2.

Hey as venues go, Seaworld could be worse.

http://c0026106.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/414165fbf75b4dcb841c51143f24a475_bandsbrewbbq5_780x438.jpg


Oh, and for anyone who wasn't around here in 2009, here is my 'concert low' of the bands career!

http://www.adn.com/2009/09/01/919310/band-brings-surfing-music-to-shores.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ja1d0yXGK4

Yeah, that Shoreline thing is pretty bad, but at least it was so low as to be kinda punk rock. And they did it for free with no advertizing....

The footage reminds me a bit of this though:

http://youtu.be/Jj7pDNDuoJ0

Whoa!

That band can use this defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHBN45fbo8

[Kurosawa]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love. 

BB fans want them to be the Rolling Stones, Mike is happy with them being Herman's Hermits.

He probably is being more realistic, to be honest.

[EthanJames]

I implore you, don't fight the sea.

Wow it looks like it'll be a great gig!  

[Lonely Summer]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love. 

BB fans want them to be the Rolling Stones, Mike is happy with them being Herman's Hermits.

He probably is being more realistic, to be honest.

Actually, Peter Noone's current incarnation of Herman's Hermits puts on a great show...and I don't have to mortgage the house to see them.

[HeyJude]

The Mike and Bruce show have played worse and smaller places than Sea World, I'm sure, and that was my point. Artistically, their fans may think the Beach Boys are up there with the Beatles and Stones. But Joe G. Public, who would be the typical person paying $75 and up for a ticket to a large venue, may not feel that way. I was under the impression that bulk of the venues the reunited Beach Boys played were not that large, overall.  Around 6-8,000 capacity venues. Not stadiums. Not even large indoor sports arenas, apart from perhaps some venues in Europe.

BTW, Michael McDonald has a pretty sizable following among a similar demographic as the Beach Boys. The Doobie Brothers and Michael himself far outsold the Beach Boys in records/CDs from the 1970s onwards. 

One argument to be made is that the reason the Mike "Beach Boys" play the venues they do and the reason the reunion tour wasn't playing even larger venues is because of years and years of diluting the trademark by doing 100+ shows per year, every year. Up to 1998, Carl and Al (and to perhaps a slightly lesser degree Brian) were part of this problem. I would say Mike continuing to tour after 1998 with a diluted stage lineup may have only hastened this dilution.

[AndrewHickey]

http://seaworldparks.com/en/seaworld-orlando/Events/Bands-Brew-and-BBQ

This is pretty disgraceful. The "Beach Boys" mentioned in tiny letters somewhere under a picture of fried chicken!

I wonder if Brian's jealous with all that BBQ that will be going around....

Take a look at the other names that are playing this event on different days. Hall & Oates, Michael MacDonald, Sheryl Crow, Meryl Haggard, etc. It's not that low-paying of a gig if those other acts are playing there. They may not be Bruce Springsteen or U2, but that's a pretty good representation of middle-level acts that command good pay days.

Dude, it's THE BEACH BOYS. They are U2 or Springsteen level. The only person who doesn't think so is Mike Love.

My problem with Mike in a nutshell, the BBs name should be nowhere near seaworld.

I think this is at the crux of the issue that a lot of BB fans have with Love. 

BB fans want them to be the Rolling Stones, Mike is happy with them being Herman's Hermits.

He probably is being more realistic, to be honest.

Actually, Peter Noone's current incarnation of Herman's Hermits puts on a great show...and I don't have to mortgage the house to see them.

Exactly. There's a horrible snobbishness here which says that some people (mostly poor, rural or Southern people) don't deserve entertainment unless they're willing to pay a week's wages and drive hundreds of miles to a 'major market'.
If Mike and Bruce are willing to play more gigs, and play more kinds of venues, than McCartney or U2, then to my mind that's *a good thing*. That's hundreds of thousands of people -- *at a minimum* because they still play large places too -- who are getting to see a show they otherwise wouldn't have seen, which for many of them will be *more special* than the 'major market' show would be. If you only get to see one or two gigs a year, because no band comes within a hundred miles of your town, then you will remember -- probably for the rest of your life -- that time the Beach Boys came to town.
I entirely get why some bands don't want to play that kind of venue, but what I don't get is this attitude that says that bands -- at least good ones -- *shouldn't* play those venues. Poor people, rural people, people who for whatever reason aren't willing or able to spend huge amounts of money for a couple of hours' entertainment -- those people deserve nice things too. If those people aren't 'classy' enough for some fans, then frankly I think it's those fans who are the problem, not the people going to Seaworld or their local county fair or wherever to have a good time.

[Nicko1234]

Exactly. There's a horrible snobbishness here which says that some people (mostly poor, rural or Southern people) don't deserve entertainment unless they're willing to pay a week's wages and drive hundreds of miles to a 'major market'.
If Mike and Bruce are willing to play more gigs, and play more kinds of venues, than McCartney or U2, then to my mind that's *a good thing*. That's hundreds of thousands of people -- *at a minimum* because they still play large places too -- who are getting to see a show they otherwise wouldn't have seen, which for many of them will be *more special* than the 'major market' show would be. If you only get to see one or two gigs a year, because no band comes within a hundred miles of your town, then you will remember -- probably for the rest of your life -- that time the Beach Boys came to town.
I entirely get why some bands don't want to play that kind of venue, but what I don't get is this attitude that says that bands -- at least good ones -- *shouldn't* play those venues. Poor people, rural people, people who for whatever reason aren't willing or able to spend huge amounts of money for a couple of hours' entertainment -- those people deserve nice things too. If those people aren't 'classy' enough for some fans, then frankly I think it's those fans who are the problem, not the people going to Seaworld or their local county fair or wherever to have a good time.

Indeed. The first time I saw Mike and Bruce play was at an outdoor show in North Wales in the U.K. at a venue that other bands just don't play at. It was nice to see lots of children and teenagers coming along to watch them and there's no way they would have travelled 100 miles to watch them at a theatre show.

[EgoHanger1966]

I don't think The Beach Boys (even the 50th lineup) are in the same concert-seating league as U2, Springsteen, and McCartney - in this current day and age. Musically, I rate the Beach Boys above all of them, but being on a Beach Boys fan-board, we kind of elevate their status to megasuperhuge proportions. I don't think they should be playing the arenas that Springsteen plays. They have huge name-recognition and many hits, but let's face it - they have an older fanbase than even Macca, they aren't filling up stadiums.

It shouldn't really be important, either. Their musical legacy is more respected than it has ever been, and that's what matters - that's what will be left behind when we are all gone. The music. Who cares if Mike and Bruce are playing SeaWorld? And it's not like they're the only artists with huge hit records that are playing there.