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« Reply #275 on: February 02, 2013, 09:40:05 AM »

I don't care what type of theatre-auditorium-stadium the Beach Boys play, so long as the performance is good and the tickets reasonably priced.
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« Reply #276 on: February 02, 2013, 10:10:55 AM »

Its a funny old world. The SeaWorld show, where you pay for a ticket as part of a day out, is being mocked. Heres a thought. Free July 4th concerts of the early 80s. Classy or not classy?
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« Reply #277 on: February 02, 2013, 10:37:51 AM »

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« Reply #278 on: February 02, 2013, 10:50:55 AM »

Man, I knew I'd get crucified..... And AGD, anyone who pays top dollar to listen to a signal path is an idiot..... However, I am the guy you mocked with delight for being too thick to let the KTSA/BBS85 CD play out before concluding "Male Ego" was not included, so you just may be onto something....

I'd imagine bands can be both too exclusive and wallet crushing (The Eagles) or too cheesy (Beach Boys/Sea World) ..... It's a bit disingenuous to sit back and scoff at all the music snobs here on THIS message board. I could throw any number of stones in any direction on most any thread and find many many worse examples of so called music snobbery than simply taking the piss out of Mike/Bruce for playing Sea World. What was that Jesus quote about casting stones? C'mon guys! ..... The only time I ever saw The beach Boys with Carl was at a private party in the Capitol Records parking lot for the box set release where they trucked in piles of sand and made an impromptu beach right there in the lot. I guess that was cheesy as hell, as were the cheerleaders who came out. I thought that was cheesy too but loved the show anyway. Am I not supposed to have an opinion about the cheerleaders? I might not have until I saw Al shaking his head and rolling his eyes more than once, so that's life. Not everyone agrees with every decision but the show goes on either way.....
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« Reply #279 on: February 02, 2013, 10:52:25 AM »

Its a funny old world. The SeaWorld show, where you pay for a ticket as part of a day out, is being mocked. Heres a thought. Free July 4th concerts of the early 80s. Classy or not classy?
They attracted the wrong element.

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« Reply #280 on: February 02, 2013, 11:27:31 AM »

Man, I knew I'd get crucified..... And AGD, anyone who pays top dollar to listen to a signal path is an idiot..... However, I am the guy you mocked with delight for being too thick to let the KTSA/BBS85 CD play out before concluding "Male Ego" was not included, so you just may be onto something....

I'd imagine bands can be both too exclusive and wallet crushing (The Eagles) or too cheesy (Beach Boys/Sea World) ..... It's a bit disingenuous to sit back and scoff at all the music snobs here on THIS message board. I could throw any number of stones in any direction on most any thread and find many many worse examples of so called music snobbery than simply taking the piss out of Mike/Bruce for playing Sea World. What was that Jesus quote about casting stones? C'mon guys! ..... The only time I ever saw The beach Boys with Carl was at a private party in the Capitol Records parking lot for the box set release where they trucked in piles of sand and made an impromptu beach right there in the lot. I guess that was cheesy as hell, as were the cheerleaders who came out. I thought that was cheesy too but loved the show anyway. Am I not supposed to have an opinion about the cheerleaders? I might not have until I saw Al shaking his head and rolling his eyes more than once, so that's life. Not everyone agrees with every decision but the show goes on either way.....

No crucifying considered, Pinder.  Just pointing out that there a lot of good venues to see the Boys, some hoity-toity and some not.  We saw them at the California Expo in Sacramento and the Sonoma County Fair in the 80's as well as those shows at Candlestick in SF.  My only complaint was Brian wasn't there, but I didn't really expect him to be.  We moved back to California from Guam the end of 1998 and so missed the Boys, who stopped by there sometime later durning an Asian trip, I guess it was. Some of our friends were there and confirmed it was a good show - - Jeff's Pirates Cove at Talofofo Bay, hardly the top venue for world-class bands but there they were. Great burgers, yes.  Red Rock Ampitheater, no. Fine show?  Evidently. People pleased?  Most definitely. (We used to have Easter sunrise services there, and let me tell you there is nothing like sitting on the beach facing east and seeing the sun come up over the Western Pacific Ocean.)

I share the dislike of cheap contrived venues with sand hauled into parking lots and cheerleaders and all that, which make the band a caricature, with all the proper costuming and accoutrements, like they can't play a set otherwise.  The early-and-mid 70's proved that one wrong, as did the Reunion tour. Just give me an authentic show at an affordable price, with a good set list from 1962 onward, and I'm happy.
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« Reply #281 on: February 02, 2013, 12:24:27 PM »

I'd imagine bands can be both too exclusive and wallet crushing (The Eagles) or too cheesy (Beach Boys/Sea World) ..... It's a bit disingenuous to sit back and scoff at all the music snobs here on THIS message board. I could throw any number of stones in any direction on most any thread and find many many worse examples of so called music snobbery than simply taking the piss out of Mike/Bruce for playing Sea World. What was that Jesus quote about casting stones? C'mon guys! ..... The only time I ever saw The beach Boys with Carl was at a private party in the Capitol Records parking lot for the box set release where they trucked in piles of sand and made an impromptu beach right there in the lot. I guess that was cheesy as hell, as were the cheerleaders who came out. I thought that was cheesy too but loved the show anyway. Am I not supposed to have an opinion about the cheerleaders? I might not have until I saw Al shaking his head and rolling his eyes more than once, so that's life. Not everyone agrees with every decision but the show goes on either way.....

See, that's a different matter to me. Where the band plays, what kind of audience they attract, I don't think people should be criticising that. But it's *absolutely* fair game to criticise aspects of the show, like cheerleaders, or Mike's between-songs banter, or the setlist choices.
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« Reply #282 on: February 02, 2013, 12:46:08 PM »

I'd imagine bands can be both too exclusive and wallet crushing (The Eagles) or too cheesy (Beach Boys/Sea World) ..... It's a bit disingenuous to sit back and scoff at all the music snobs here on THIS message board. I could throw any number of stones in any direction on most any thread and find many many worse examples of so called music snobbery than simply taking the piss out of Mike/Bruce for playing Sea World. What was that Jesus quote about casting stones? C'mon guys! ..... The only time I ever saw The beach Boys with Carl was at a private party in the Capitol Records parking lot for the box set release where they trucked in piles of sand and made an impromptu beach right there in the lot. I guess that was cheesy as hell, as were the cheerleaders who came out. I thought that was cheesy too but loved the show anyway. Am I not supposed to have an opinion about the cheerleaders? I might not have until I saw Al shaking his head and rolling his eyes more than once, so that's life. Not everyone agrees with every decision but the show goes on either way.....

See, that's a different matter to me. Where the band plays, what kind of audience they attract, I don't think people should be criticising that. But it's *absolutely* fair game to criticise aspects of the show, like cheerleaders, or Mike's between-songs banter, or the setlist choices.

Where a band plays is absolutely an important matter.... Especially when you're an up and coming band trying to establish yourself and you're trying to cultivate an image and a type of audience.... Anyone who's been or is in a band will tell you.... The Beach Boys are different in that they are "America's Band" and basically anyone/everyone will likely be a fan to whatever extent. And in this Mike is right. There has never been a pretense of "cool" with The Beach Boys and any such thing has been forced upon them by fans who basically want them to be a different band/different people than they are..... If I lived near Sea World, of course I'd probably go see the show and have a blast, but this doesn't mean I can't have an opinion or think Sea World is a lame place to play. It's a simple opinion and not that important..... I mean, if Mike's between song patter annoys someone: combine that with Sea World and you have the makings of a not very impressed example of a potential new fan or two or three or four or five and on and on and on.....

We should pass around a till and get OSD a top seat at this show, however!
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« Reply #283 on: February 02, 2013, 02:06:04 PM »



Looks like Mike and Bruce are already at Sea World messing around pre-show!
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« Reply #284 on: February 02, 2013, 02:16:44 PM »

I like cheerleaders. A lot. I used to date one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIlUgqAiNY

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« Reply #285 on: February 02, 2013, 02:20:46 PM »



Looks like Mike and Bruce are already at Sea World messing around pre-show!
Bruce needs to pistol-whip the shark to escape!!!! Also glad Bruce brought back his 1990s mondo-combover.
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« Reply #286 on: February 02, 2013, 02:22:11 PM »

I like cheerleaders. A lot. I used to date one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIlUgqAiNY

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If they'd used cheerleaders like THAT in the 90's, no one would have complained!
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« Reply #287 on: February 02, 2013, 02:23:55 PM »

I like cheerleaders. A lot. I used to date one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIlUgqAiNY

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One question: when Mike's trailer's a rockin' does Bruce come knockin'?
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« Reply #288 on: February 02, 2013, 02:29:56 PM »

And the same group that recorded this song could also do a song like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IQu0yuJzU
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« Reply #289 on: February 02, 2013, 02:42:26 PM »

I like cheerleaders. A lot. I used to date one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIlUgqAiNY

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The Beach Boys are a weird 'band'.
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« Reply #290 on: February 02, 2013, 02:45:37 PM »

I like cheerleaders. A lot. I used to date one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIlUgqAiNY

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The Beach Boys are a weird 'band'.
Agreed, this made the 1990s BBs with cheerleaders shows look classy.
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« Reply #291 on: February 02, 2013, 03:08:24 PM »


That's why they rule. I'd love to see the cheerleaders dance to that too, tho.
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« Reply #292 on: February 02, 2013, 03:14:56 PM »


That's why they rule. I'd love to see the cheerleaders dance to that too, tho.
Totally, the duality of the BBs is a huge part of what makes them awesome. Til I die with cheerleaders would be quite the sight to see, hopefully the cheerleaders would also dance to Smiley Smile or Holland. LOL
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« Reply #293 on: February 02, 2013, 03:22:45 PM »



Re: the Paul Simon tour, for me the funniest thing was Brian's people turning themselves inside out at the time insisting that he wasn't opening for Paul but that they were co-headliners. Yeah... right. There's some interesting tales to be told about that little jaunt.

Care to digress?


I think you mean 'divulge'.  Cheesy
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« Reply #294 on: February 02, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »



Re: the Paul Simon tour, for me the funniest thing was Brian's people turning themselves inside out at the time insisting that he wasn't opening for Paul but that they were co-headliners. Yeah... right. There's some interesting tales to be told about that little jaunt.

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I think you mean 'divulge'.  Cheesy

I'm gonna blame that one on the iphone..   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #295 on: February 02, 2013, 08:03:32 PM »

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« Reply #297 on: February 02, 2013, 11:03:36 PM »

Re: the Paul Simon tour, for me the funniest thing was Brian's people turning themselves inside out at the time insisting that he wasn't opening for Paul but that they were co-headliners. Yeah... right. There's some interesting tales to be told about that little jaunt.

Hrrmm, anybody want to take bets on the odds that we'll actually get a follow-up to this that actually conveys actual information about the "jaunt" rather than simply telling us that such stories exist?

In the absence of actually hearing those apparent stories, I will substitute the one story I know from that Paul Simon tour. This may well be completely common knowledge, but I learned a few years after the tour that they attempted to get both Paul and Brian on that "Dollar Bill" poster they sold during the tour, but evidently Simon or Simon's people wanted nothing to do with a poster featuring an epic depiction of money with Simon's face right on it. I know, not terribly interesting, but at least it's an actual story rather than a description that stories exist.  Grin
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« Reply #298 on: February 03, 2013, 01:30:41 AM »

I like cheerleaders. A lot. I used to date one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIlUgqAiNY

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I have no idea where that clip is from - and the cheerleaders are alright, btw - but it is sad seeing The Beach Boys...or is it the Beach Boys - playing a small stage like that, wherever it is. Looks like the kind of gig my band would do.
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« Reply #299 on: February 03, 2013, 01:53:20 AM »

Re: the Paul Simon tour, for me the funniest thing was Brian's people turning themselves inside out at the time insisting that he wasn't opening for Paul but that they were co-headliners. Yeah... right. There's some interesting tales to be told about that little jaunt.

Hrrmm, anybody want to take bets on the odds that we'll actually get a follow-up to this that actually conveys actual information about the "jaunt" rather than simply telling us that such stories exist?

In the absence of actually hearing those apparent stories, I will substitute the one story I know from that Paul Simon tour. This may well be completely common knowledge, but I learned a few years after the tour that they attempted to get both Paul and Brian on that "Dollar Bill" poster they sold during the tour, but evidently Simon or Simon's people wanted nothing to do with a poster featuring an epic depiction of money with Simon's face right on it. I know, not terribly interesting, but at least it's an actual story rather than a description that stories exist.  Grin

I remember reading stories about that tour at the time it was happening, that were posted around. I can't remember the specifics. But Brian's management didn't come off too well in the telling. I think the Wilson people went into that tour really believing they were co-headliners, though it was clearly a favor Paul Simon's people were doing to give Brian more exposure by asking him to be Paul's opening act, which made it sad that the Wilson folks were so resentful of Paul Simon.
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