Singers/Groups That You Consider Over-Rated.

[Newguy562]

Who do you consider over-rated? ..The type of singer/group that whenever you hear their music you're like "Why do people listen to this & how could they like ________?"
I hope I don't get stoned for this LOL ..Even though they have a major influence on Rock & Roll i'mma have to definately go with "Velvet Underground".(I heard a few songs by them i actually think are ok and it's  on their debut but everything else after...hmmmmm)

[I. Spaceman]

Interesting. The Velvet Underground are my favorite band by a far margin.

Overall, I'd say judging things to be overrated is overrated.

[Denny's Drums]

U2
Nickelback
Guns N Roses
Red Hot Chili Peppers

[Mike's Beard]

The Beatles. Great band, yes, but all this "Greatest Group of all time BS" has to stop.
U2. Have sucked since the mid 90's, but Music Rags refuse to accept this.
Oasis. Hilariously overrated for what they actually were.
Coldplay. Garbage, period.
Lenny Kravitiz. I'm not sure if he is even rated these days, but GOD do I hate everthing about him. All he's ever done is rip off late 60's - early 70's music. Not an original bone in his body.

[Ron]

Who do you consider over-rated? ..The type of singer/group that whenever you hear their music you're like "Why do people listen to this & how could they like ________?"
I hope I don't get stoned for this LOL ..Even though they have a major influence on Rock & Roll i'mma have to definately go with "Velvet Underground".(I heard a few songs by them i actually think are ok and it's  on their debut but everything else after...hmmmmm)

I agree.  The Velvet Underground and every other half-ass band that everybody says is their favorite but in reality nobody (outside of people who think they're too intelligent to listen to a real band) listens to.   

If they name a band that has never had a top 10 hit in their life as great, then that band by definition is overrated.  If they name a band you've never heard of, that band is overrated.  If they name a band that isn't signed to a major record deal, that band is overrated. 

[BananaLouie]

The Sheepdogs which some of you may know as the band that was on the cover of Rolling Stone not too long ago without even being signed to a label. I find their music the epitome of watered down, derivitive, MOR rock...their songs sound like Guess Who B-sides except no where as good.

[the captain]

The exercise is impossible unless there is an agreed-upon set of guidelines as to what is being rated (or overrated) and by whom. Otherwise it immediately devolves into a mishmash of "I don't like so-and-so," "I haven't heard of so-and-so," "I like so-and-so (and thus must put down someone else)," "that genre of music or culture doesn't resonate with me and thus it can't be good," etc.

Ron is establishing his criteria, but those aren't by any means universal. So if he uses those, and I use mine, and Ian uses his, where does it get us? Same old message board arguments as always.

For the record, the Velvet Underground has been among the most rewarding listening experiences of my life, without question. I rank them with Beach Boys, Beatles, and Dylan. They aren't overrated by me, because that is their effect on me. And if they are by some other measure , to some other people, overrated, that doesn't involve me. Someone said the talk of Beatles as best ever has to stop. I also disagree with that: they're right in the conversation for me, as to effect on me. So why should they be eliminated just because someone else doesn't agree?

The more honest way to approach the topic--without using objective measures--might be "what famous bands don't you like?"

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

The Beatles. Great band, yes, but all this "Greatest Group of all time BS" has to stop

HELL YEAH.

[SMiLE Brian]

The Beatles. Great band, yes, but all this "Greatest Group of all time BS" has to stop

HELL YEAH.

Agree 100% as well.

[Newguy562]

The Beatles. Great band, yes, but all this "Greatest Group of all time BS" has to stop

HELL YEAH.

Agree 100% as well.

no they're not but i can definitely say sgt. pepper is over-rated -____-

[Mahalo]

Maybe we can go by how much air-play any particular band gets... in that case U2, Coldplay, etc...

[hypehat]

Whilst Luther is of course right, I still want to kick Ron into next week for calling The Velvets a 'half-ass band'.

[I. Spaceman]

If they name a band that has never had a top 10 hit in their life as great, then that band by definition is overrated.  If they name a band you've never heard of, that band is overrated.  If they name a band that isn't signed to a major record deal, that band is overrated. 

You're an idiot.

[RadBooley]

The Beatles. Great band, yes, but all this "Greatest Group of all time BS" has to stop

HELL YEAH.

Agree 100% as well.

I love The Beach Boys as much as anyone but you've got to say The Beatles put out a generally consistently good repertoire of songs and then broke up before things really started getting bad in the quality department. Not hard to see why people feel they're the greatest group of all time.

...though I AM tired of people claiming they love 60s music and only being able to name-drop The Beatles.

[BananaLouie]

I'm always annoyed when name dropping the usual handful of influential 60's bands I hear The Beatles, The Doors, The Stones, The Who but rarely or never hear The Beach Boys, I mean they invented and defined a genre.

[SMiLE Brian]

The Beatles. Great band, yes, but all this "Greatest Group of all time BS" has to stop

HELL YEAH.

Agree 100% as well.

I love The Beach Boys as much as anyone but you've got to say The Beatles put out a generally consistently good repertoire of songs and then broke up before things really started getting bad in the quality department. Not hard to see why people feel they're the greatest group of all time.

...though I AM tired of people claiming they love 60s music and only being able to name-drop The Beatles.

I'm always annoyed when name dropping the usual handful of influential 60's bands I hear The Beatles, The Doors, The Stones, The Who but rarely or never hear The Beach Boys, I mean they invented and defined a genre.

That happened Today when I watched a Ramones documentary and they didn't metion the BB's were a huge influence on the group.(rockaway beach)

[Mahalo]

Besides defining a genre, their melodies are UNEQUALED.

Add to that the harmonies (duh), production, arrangements, artistic exploration/courage, and we are now discussing CRIMINAL NEGLECT by Rock Radio....hence nobody name-drops them.

Most people only casually explore/listen to music. We have taken our love of music to another level here. Not just the BB's, but whomever.

[Jason]

The Rolling Stones
Queen (love their stuff from 1973-78)
U2
Frank Zappa (post 1974)
Black Sabbath (Ozzy era is incredibly patchy, Dio's the best singer they ever had, The Eternal Idol is their third or fourth-best record but no one even knows it)
Metallica (listen to Venom and Metallica won't matter to you as much anymore)
Jethro Tull (immense respect for them, but their music never blew me away)
Yes (ditto Jethro Tull)
Paul McCartney (it's like his talent disappeared after the Beatles broke up)
Cannibal Corpse (for a death metal band they get a shitload of praise, but they've always been very generic, boring death metal)
Psychic TV (I am a huge admirer of Genesis P-Orridge but he couldn't get that manic Throbbing Gristle magic in a bottle twice)
Scott Walker (his early stuff, later stuff is UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE)
Wondermints

[Newguy562]

The Rolling Stones
Queen (love their stuff from 1973-78)
U2
Frank Zappa (post 1974)
Black Sabbath (Ozzy era is incredibly patchy, Dio's the best singer they ever had, The Eternal Idol is their third or fourth-best record but no one even knows it)
Metallica (listen to Venom and Metallica won't matter to you as much anymore)
Jethro Tull (immense respect for them, but their music never blew me away)
Yes (ditto Jethro Tull)
Paul McCartney (it's like his talent disappeared after the Beatles broke up)
Cannibal Corpse (for a death metal band they get a sh*tload of praise, but they've always been very generic, boring death metal)
Psychic TV (I am a huge admirer of Genesis P-Orridge but he couldn't get that manic Throbbing Gristle magic in a bottle twice)
Scott Walker (his early stuff, later stuff is UNf*ckINGBELIEVABLE)
Wondermints

THE ROLLING STONES? :/...they are that good though. ok after tattoo they fell off but they had one hell of a run
Queen? i agree even though freddie's voice is amazing
Metallica? i've always been more of a megadeth fan
Paul McCartney? yes so did john lennon's talent and the albums he did with yoko...smhhhhh

[Mikie]

You guys talking about the Beatles and Stones and McCartney being overrated are cracking me up!  Seriously, you guys are funny!

 

[hypehat]

Re: Macca, i read some allmusic review for Red Rose Speedway where it says 'Hell, if Brian Wilson is lauded with praise for his half-assed homebrewed records, why isn't Macca?'

Which I don't think is too unreasonable, besides the crucial difference Macca smoking weed and writing songs was hugely successful and Brian didn't get that success with his slice o' life records.

But Paul's solo stuff is full of oddities - like, if you posited it was possible to have a top 3 song with a droning bass note literally about his doorbell ringing and namedropping most of your family, MLK and The Everly Brothers in 1976, you'd sound insane. Until you realise that it's Let Em In, and you can hum it. If anything, solo McCartney's underrated at points, but i think it's his irreverence to lyrics that makes people think John is somehow more 'worthy'.

[Jason]

The Rolling Stones
Queen (love their stuff from 1973-78)
U2
Frank Zappa (post 1974)
Black Sabbath (Ozzy era is incredibly patchy, Dio's the best singer they ever had, The Eternal Idol is their third or fourth-best record but no one even knows it)
Metallica (listen to Venom and Metallica won't matter to you as much anymore)
Jethro Tull (immense respect for them, but their music never blew me away)
Yes (ditto Jethro Tull)
Paul McCartney (it's like his talent disappeared after the Beatles broke up)
Cannibal Corpse (for a death metal band they get a sh*tload of praise, but they've always been very generic, boring death metal)
Psychic TV (I am a huge admirer of Genesis P-Orridge but he couldn't get that manic Throbbing Gristle magic in a bottle twice)
Scott Walker (his early stuff, later stuff is UNf*ckINGBELIEVABLE)
Wondermints

THE ROLLING STONES? :/...they are that good though. ok after tattoo they fell off but they had one hell of a run
Queen? i agree even though freddie's voice is amazing
Metallica? i've always been more of a megadeth fan
Paul McCartney? yes so did john lennon's talent and the albums he did with yoko...smhhhhh

How does one "shake his head head head head head"?

It's called an OPINION, small fry. Remember that while you're giving yourself whiplash by shaking your head head head head head.

[Jason]

Who do you consider over-rated? ..The type of singer/group that whenever you hear their music you're like "Why do people listen to this & how could they like ________?"
I hope I don't get stoned for this LOL ..Even though they have a major influence on Rock & Roll i'mma have to definately go with "Velvet Underground".(I heard a few songs by them i actually think are ok and it's  on their debut but everything else after...hmmmmm)

I agree.  The Velvet Underground and every other half-ass band that everybody says is their favorite but in reality nobody (outside of people who think they're too intelligent to listen to a real band) listens to.   

If they name a band that has never had a top 10 hit in their life as great, then that band by definition is overrated.  If they name a band you've never heard of, that band is overrated.  If they name a band that isn't signed to a major record deal, that band is overrated. 

I understand this is your opinion but it makes absolutely no sense.

[cablegeddon]

Neil Young. His lyrics aren't as good as Bob Dylan's and his music isn't on the level of great songwriters like Lennon/Mccartney, BW or Michael Jackson.

[Ron]

Whilst Luther is of course right, I still want to kick Ron into next week for calling The Velvets a 'half-ass band'.

Bring it on.  They are a half-assed band.  U2 is a much, much, much better band.