"I Was Made to Love Her" on Wild Honey and Carol Kaye's claims

[SamMcK]

I know i've arrived very late into the thread but am I the only one who finds the name of the song in the title "I Was Made To Love Her" quite ironic considering Carol seems is such a despised person on this board.

[The Heartical Don]

I know i've arrived very late into the thread but am I the only one who finds the name of the song in the title "I Was Made To Love Her" quite ironic considering Carol seems is such a despised person on this board.

Well, I for one didn't think of that.

I'd say 'despised' is not really fitting... that word points more towards some unnatural, shapeless hatred. As AGD pointed out, there are valid and rational reasons to criticize her harshly, and be angry (which applies to people she insulted in person, and publicly so, creating willfully a false profile of said people). Her name still has authority to it, for those that don't see through the false claims and insults.

Her unpredictable ways of communicating and reacting bring harm to herself, in the eyes of people who look a bit deeper into it all. And her false claims are insulting to musicians who cannot respond anymore, because they passed away.

[rogerlancelot]

Manson was an excellent songwriter.

Still is.  His recent stuff is really good.

Recent stuff? The most recent stuff I have of his is from the 1980's. WTF am I missing here?

[?]

Manson was an excellent songwriter.

Still is.  His recent stuff is really good.

Recent stuff? The most recent stuff I have of his is from the 1980's. WTF am I missing here?

He currently has a 4 part album series coming from Magic Bullet Records.  Check out the East Bound Train mp3: http://www.magicbulletrecords.com/site/discography/mbl138/

[guitarfool2002]

Thanks for the clarification on the Herb Alpert situation. Much ado about nothing, which is what I suspected anyway.

It's worth noting something I had posted in another thread months ago: The trumpet solo on The Carpenters' classic single "Close To You". Richard Carpenter had arranged the song with a trumpet solo in mind which would hypothetically sound like what Herb Alpert would play on a Bacharach session. Carpenter wanted to feature Herb's trademark of bending notes a certain way at the end of a phrase...and he's right of course, Herb did have a very unique way of phrasing on the trumpet with those bends, and that is a signature sound of his records.

They didn't hire Herb Alpert to actually play it, so Carpenter auditioned three trumpet players to try out the part, some of the best in LA: Buddy Childers, Chuck Findley, and (drum roll...) *Ollie Mitchell* to play the solo passage. Whoever played it most like Herb Alpert was chosen for the actual take, and then triple-tracked to further match that signature Alpert sound.

Now put it all together, add it all up...if Ollie Mitchell were the real "voice" of Herb Alpert's trumpet on those classic records, he'd be the most likely choice after trying out the part to sound the most like Alpert himself.

But Chuck Findley won the contest and played that part. Carpenter said Findley nailed the sound so well that Bacharach himself, among others, assumed it was Herb Alpert himself playing the solo on the record.

Just an interesting asterisk to the whole saga.

[brucejohnstonfan]

Anyone here Facebook friends with her? I got her on my friends list, and some of her status updates are pretty far out.

Yesterday she claimed her bass lines are the most commonly copied bass lines in rap music.

[hypehat]

Yesterday she claimed her bass lines are the most commonly copied bass lines in rap music.

 

[SMiLE Brian]

Anyone here Facebook friends with her? I got her on my friends list, and some of her status updates are pretty far out.

Yesterday she claimed her bass lines are the most commonly copied bass lines in rap music.

AGD was 100% correct in saying this lady is bonkers.

[Mr. Wilson]

    

[Jay]

I tried to register to her website forum. I was sent an e-mail saying that I would be sent another e-mail telling me if she has given me permission to be a member of her forum. It's been about a week and I still haven't gotten another e-mail telling me if she has given the ok to let me post as a member of her forum. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Probably checking to see if you've ever shared any forums or emails with me. 

[Jay]

The weird thing is that in her forum FAQ, it says that no e-mail will be sent and no permission needs to be given, and you can start post right away. Then I get an e-mail telling me I'm going to be sent an e-mail. I also tried to request a friend add on Facebook, and it told me that she has the maximum amount of friends permitted. 

[stack-o-tracks]

She has to have seen this thread by now. The emails the administrators of this site are going to get..... Such a stern yelling at.

[Andrew G. Doe]

The weird thing is that in her forum FAQ, it says that no e-mail will be sent and no permission needs to be given, and you can start post right away.

Some of the FAQ text is over a decade old - "There will be a well-researched book out by the end of this year ('99) by Russ Wapensky, a highly-regarded meticulous researcher who has spent years in not only interviewing the LA studio musicians, but is also the most-trusted researcher over the years of our Musicians' Union recording contracts (which our pensions and re-uses are based off of, the best written records of accurate records of studio musician credits, along with our personal logs and app't books). His book will be out on Greenwood Press about our studio musician credits 1945-69, and is almost finished now." - and evidently not updated.

BTW, I've very recently discovered that a couple of years ago, Carol had her house repossessed: irrespective of the controversy surrounding her and any personal feelings thus engendered, that's a horrible thing to have happen to you (been there) and she has my sympathy, especially at her time of life. I hope something was sorted out.

[The Heartical Don]

Anyone here Facebook friends with her? I got her on my friends list, and some of her status updates are pretty far out.

Yesterday she claimed her bass lines are the most commonly copied bass lines in rap music.

No wonder then that so many famous rap artists got shot.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Anyone here Facebook friends with her? I got her on my friends list, and some of her status updates are pretty far out.

Yesterday she claimed her bass lines are the most commonly copied bass lines in rap music.

No wonder then that so many famous rap artists got shot.

It's wrong, I know I shouldn't... but that made me laugh out loud.

Shame I had a mouthful of tea...

[The Heartical Don]

Anyone here Facebook friends with her? I got her on my friends list, and some of her status updates are pretty far out.

Yesterday she claimed her bass lines are the most commonly copied bass lines in rap music.

No wonder then that so many famous rap artists got shot.

It's wrong, I know I shouldn't... but that made me laugh out loud.

Shame I had a mouthful of tea...

Hi AGD -

I had some misgivings when writing it, but it just was an opportunity I couldn't pass up...

[18thofMay]

Please guys be nice.... this artist inspired Straight Outta Compton

[The Heartical Don]

Please guys be nice.... this artist inspired Straight Outta Compton

Inspired??... did you know that she actually plays on it?

[rogerlancelot]

Carol played banjo on "Cabinessence". Quit hating on her.

[grooveblaster]

Please guys be nice.... this artist inspired Straight Outta Compton

Inspired??... did you know that she actually plays on it?

She was tight with the late Easy E -  They were out together one night and  they came up with F**K Tha Police

Until they had a falling out and Ice Cube wrote 'A Bitch Iz a Bitch'

[Tristero]

Carol played banjo on "Cabinessence". Quit hating on her.

No one in their right minds would deny her incredible contributions.  Too bad she insists on taking credit that belongs to others and trashing those that try to set the record straight.

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Please guys be nice.... this artist inspired Straight Outta Compton

Inspired??... did you know that she actually plays on it?

To be fair, she DID play on Dr. Dre's "The Next Episode."  In a way.

[tony p]

Please guys be nice.... this artist inspired Straight Outta Compton

Inspired??... did you know that she actually plays on it?

To be fair, she DID play on Dr. Dre's "The Next Episode."  In a way.

not sure if its been mentioned yet but Dr. Dre started his career in music as a member of the World Class Wreckin' Crew

strange coincidence?

[oldsurferdude]

Carol played banjo on "Cabinessence". Quit hating on her.

No one in their right minds would deny her incredible contributions.  Too bad she insists on taking credit that belongs to others and trashing those that try to set the record straight.

That second sentence sounds like it's ripped directly out of the Myke Luhv playbook.