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Author Topic: Barnyard Mistake in Pressing of Smile Sessions CD?  (Read 42783 times)
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« on: October 30, 2011, 07:07:41 PM »

There are reports that the BB backing vocals are missing in the sessions track for Barnyard (only animal sounds are heard), although they're referred to in the booklet and Mr. Doe reported hearing stereo backing vocals in the stream he got to hear. Was an incomplete version of the track accidentally included on the CD?
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 07:11:52 PM »

....and if so can a corrected version be distributed to us needy fans somehow?
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 07:22:32 PM »

....and if so can a corrected version be distributed to us needy fans somehow?

*prays*

Was a little surprised to hear the clip without the background vocals. Both versions would be nice to have, but the version with stereo backup vocals would be more essential, methinks.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 07:34:28 PM »

If you mean the ooooohs there are in there.

Edit: Sorry didn't see you mean the sessions track.  Listening to the previews on Aus iTunes store there is defiantly no backing vocals.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 09:12:09 PM »

Here's the Leila description of the track from the stream:

Disk 2

Track 4-A clean master take of Barnyard! Backing and stereo BVs. Nothing new otherwise though.


And yet, the people who now have the box say the BV are not heard on the track!
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 10:25:20 PM »

Here's the Leila description of the track from the stream:

Disk 2

Track 4-A clean master take of Barnyard! Backing and stereo BVs. Nothing new otherwise though.


And yet, the people who now have the box say the BV are not heard on the track!
Right, CD 2: animal sounds yes, ooohs no.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 10:34:05 PM »

Are the animal sounds in stereo?
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 11:36:01 PM »

Are the animal sounds in stereo?

No.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 11:38:33 PM »


So yer sayin' you/others heard a Barnyard track sans flown in vocals with the group vocals in stereo? But the retail release only contains a version without the group vocals?

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 12:48:44 AM »

We need the BV's. NOW! Or we could make our own. Audition everyone for teh best ooohs, and then we pan then either side an voila!
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 12:52:23 AM »


So yer sayin' you/others heard a Barnyard track sans flown in vocals with the group vocals in stereo? But the retail release only contains a version without the group vocals?

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CD2/track 4 had stereo bvs when I heard it. The HMV clip and the actual box disc doesn't. Time to dust off the deerstalker...
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 01:47:18 AM »

....and if so can a corrected version be distributed to us needy fans somehow?

Good point - if the review copies and released copies contain differences, the bootleggers will be on it in a flash.

What else differs?

Or maybe that was the watermarking - any contraband that included those box could be quickly id'ed as such and tracked back by other means?
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 06:54:03 AM »

....and if so can a corrected version be distributed to us needy fans somehow?

Good point - if the review copies and released copies contain differences, the bootleggers will be on it in a flash.

What else differs?

Or maybe that was the watermarking - any contraband that included those box could be quickly id'ed as such and tracked back by other means?


Hmm very interesting.  Hadn't thought of that myself.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 07:41:04 AM »

Speaking of mistakes, the amount of technical/engineering blunders all over disc 1 is staggering. I am planning on writing a lengthy review critique on this aspect of the release because, to me, it is totally inexcusable for a major release of this magnitude to have such sloppy work. It's really disheartening. Although i hate to say it, i totally saw it coming given previous releases.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 10:53:57 AM »

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Speaking of mistakes, the amount of technical/engineering blunders all over disc 1 is staggering.

I won't judge until i actually hear it, but reading this kind of thing still scares me a little bit.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 10:59:33 AM »

Speaking of mistakes, the amount of technical/engineering blunders all over disc 1 is staggering. I am planning on writing a lengthy review critique on this aspect of the release because, to me, it is totally inexcusable for a major release of this magnitude to have such sloppy work. It's really disheartening. Although i hate to say it, i totally saw it coming given previous releases.

Curious to know what you mean.  I grabbed what I understood to be the iTunes rip of the 2CD over the weekend and it was positively full of digital skips and glitches.  I don't know whether what I got was the exact retail fileset or if somehow these errors & glitches were introduced after the fact.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 11:03:31 AM »

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I grabbed what I understood to be the iTunes rip of the 2CD over the weekend and it was positively full of digital skips and glitches.  I don't know whether what I got was the exact retail fileset or if somehow these errors & glitches were introduced after the fact.

I REALLY hope that's the case.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2011, 11:03:59 AM »

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Speaking of mistakes, the amount of technical/engineering blunders all over disc 1 is staggering.

I won't judge until i actually hear it, but reading this kind of thing still scares me a little bit.

Nah, don't worry about it.  I don't hear anything of the sort on disc 1 (well, maybe in one spot, but it's minor).  I don't hear any sloppy work.  I'm interested (a little bit) to read what monicker has to say about these 'technical/engineering blunders'.  Different ears hear different things, and different minds percieve different things.  I'm not saying that there is a right or a wrong in this difference of opinion, I'm just saying that you should listen for yourself, and disregard anyone's opinion until you've actually heard the thing.  You may end up agreeing with monicker, or you may not.

P.S.  There are no digital skips or glitches on the disc that I bought.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2011, 11:06:11 AM »

Just listened to Disc 1, and I think it is great.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2011, 11:11:25 AM »

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There are no digital skips or glitches on the disc that I bought.

Well, that put me at ease.
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2011, 11:14:25 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2011, 11:19:36 AM »

I'm confused. My copy I could hear the background vocals very well.
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2011, 11:32:04 AM »

I'm confused. My copy I could hear the background vocals very well.

On disc 2?
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2011, 12:08:28 PM »

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Speaking of mistakes, the amount of technical/engineering blunders all over disc 1 is staggering.

I won't judge until i actually hear it, but reading this kind of thing still scares me a little bit.

Nah, don't worry about it.  I don't hear anything of the sort on disc 1 (well, maybe in one spot, but it's minor).  I don't hear any sloppy work.  I'm interested (a little bit) to read what monicker has to say about these 'technical/engineering blunders'.  Different ears hear different things, and different minds percieve different things.  I'm not saying that there is a right or a wrong in this difference of opinion, I'm just saying that you should listen for yourself, and disregard anyone's opinion until you've actually heard the thing.  You may end up agreeing with monicker, or you may not.

P.S.  There are no digital skips or glitches on the disc that I bought.

Not trying to be confrontational here, but an honest question: would you be saying the same thing if you saw a film, a major release, with boom mics dipping into frame, the shadow of the camera visible in some shots, the camera visible in a scene with a mirror, a crew member's elbow dipping into the corner of the frame?

Or what if inside the packaging of this release there were typos all throughout the text? Or, say, a weird line going through some the photos that's obviously not supposed to be there? (I don't know enough about printing type of errors to offer more hypothetical examples)

There'd be a lot of complaining going on, i reckon.

I'm going to sit with the music for a while before i attempt to write anything. But i also might not even end up doing it because this simultaneously breaks my heart and makes me so upset that i might not have the energy to take on such a task.
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2011, 12:28:18 PM »

Not trying to be confrontational here, but an honest question: would you be saying the same thing if you saw a film, a major release, with boom mics dipping into frame, the shadow of the camera visible in some shots, the camera visible in a scene with a mirror, a crew member's elbow dipping into the corner of the frame?

Or what if inside the packaging of this release there were typos all throughout the text? Or, say, a weird line going through some the photos that's obviously not supposed to be there? (I don't know enough about printing type of errors to offer more hypothetical examples)

There'd be a lot of complaining going on, i reckon.

I'm going to sit with the music for a while before i attempt to write anything. But i also might not even end up doing it because this simultaneously breaks my heart and makes me so upset that i might not have the energy to take on such a task.

It may be because you said this: "it is totally inexcusable for a major release of this magnitude to have such sloppy work. It's really disheartening" without giving a single example of what you're talking about.
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