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« on: October 19, 2011, 12:37:34 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15363393
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 12:48:07 AM »

Concise and does the job!  Good collection of clips and the first public airings of Fire & Brian Falls in to the Piano.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 01:06:10 AM »

Shame about the major factual errors... but balanced by Brian stating that it was drugs and his & Van Dyke's decision that put paid to the project, with no mention of the evil Mike Love. That'll piss off the more rabid blooies.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 01:51:13 AM »

Shame about the major factual errors... but balanced by Brian stating that it was drugs and his & Van Dyke's decision that put paid to the project, with no mention of the evil Mike Love. That'll piss off the more rabid blooies.  Grin

Well that's because Mike was standing off camera with his lawyer and an "Mike Loves SMiLE" T-Shirt on (or should that be "Mike Love's SMiLE?)
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 02:15:49 AM »

Great stuff - cheers for posting!
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 02:25:46 AM »


1969 eh?

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2011, 02:28:06 AM »

Shame about the major factual errors...

You mean he was actually trapped between the B and the B-flat?
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 02:28:48 AM »

They talk like "Brian Farts Into His Piano" was supposed to be the lead single or something as opposed to he and his friends dicking around.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2011, 02:31:03 AM »

They talk like "Brian Farts Into His Piano" was supposed to be the lead single or something as opposed to he and his friends dicking around.

Yeah would've been nice to showcase some of the more impressive unknown songs, but seems the crazy, drug-fuelled angle was the one they wanted to take here.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 03:00:09 AM »

Shame about the major factual errors...

You mean he was actually trapped between the B and the B-flat?

That too.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2011, 05:58:40 AM »

The 1969 comment seems to have been replaced!
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2011, 06:04:08 AM »

I'll have some of whatever Brian's having.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 07:03:10 AM »

Interesting comments by Brian. He's given some of his best interviews this year for sure. Has opened up more.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 07:06:25 AM »

Shame about the major factual errors...

You mean he was actually trapped between the B and the B-flat?

Does the b-flat have a kitchen and a bathroom?
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2011, 07:17:58 AM »

Nice there's another film on the right called "The truth about raw carrots"! Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2011, 07:18:18 AM »

Brian handles this very well. But egads: this doesn't make me love the popular press any better. That whole pandering-to-public-preconceptions* thing always bugs the hell out of me.

*Sincere apologies for suddenly channeling Spiro Agnew there.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2011, 07:20:53 AM »

Brian handles this very well. But egads: this doesn't make me love the popular press any better. That whole pandering-to-public-preconceptions* thing always bugs the hell out of me.

*Sincere apologies for suddenly channeling Spiro Agnew there.

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2011, 07:33:21 AM »

Shame about the major factual errors...

You mean he was actually trapped between the B and the B-flat?

Does the b-flat have a kitchen and a bathroom?

A-sharp!
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2011, 07:59:16 AM »

Brian is always good for some interesting comments, but Brian's explanation about how the drugs were the cause of the project's non-completion is quite misleading.  We've all heard these sessions, and aside from that "Our Prayer" session we all know and love, Brian is always in control and gets more accomplished than anyone on drugs ever could.  If he had referred to the drug use in a more general way, talking about how the effects they had on his overall state of mind which in turn played a role in the project being shelved, I could buy that.  But as Vosse and Van Dyke have alluded to, when you look at the amount of work that was done in a relatively short period of time, you really can't say that drugs impeded things from a production standpoint.

Same goes for the "too advanced" line that Brian always trots out now - reading the contemporary interviews, it's clear that Brian wanted to advance music beyond where it had been.  He knew that the scene was changing and that he had to be first with the "new sound."  He talks about going past Spector, creating a white spiritual sound and "scaring a whole lot of people when (he) gets there."  It would be more accurate to say that Brian just lost confidence in himself and, in turn, Smile.  I think that Brian saying that it was "too advanced" is his way of sugar-coating the severe mental decline he suffered that caused him to kill the project.  Not that I blame him, mind you - it's much easier to say the music was too advanced than to talk about some very painful memories associated with that time period.  It doesn't tell the whole story though, and I wish there was a way we could get more of that beyond the typical surface-level comments we always hear.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2011, 09:17:59 AM »

Brian looks pretty tired..

Nice piece anyway, you can't go wrong with any of that footage
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2011, 02:28:26 PM »

Shame about the major factual errors... but balanced by Brian stating that it was drugs and his & Van Dyke's decision that put paid to the project, with no mention of the evil Mike Love. That'll piss off the more rabid blooies.  Grin


Now wait a minute...  you don't seriously believe that Van Dyke was in on the decision to scrap the project, do you?   I'm pretty sure Van Dyke doesn't believe this, since Van Dyke has previously said that he was fired from the project after Mike questioned his lyrics.  This, to me, is just Brian once again blowing smoke over the real reason for the stillbirth -- the same thing he has done for so many years.


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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2011, 02:54:32 PM »

This, to me, is just Brian once again blowing smoke over the real reason for the stillbirth -- the same thing he has done for so many years.

Meaning Mike Love?

Where did VDP state that he was fired? Was he?
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2011, 03:05:08 PM »

Brian and anyone else involved has never given a solid, single reason as to why it was abandoned. It was a combination of things. How is he "blowing smoke over" it?
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 04:10:06 PM »

Now wait a minute...  you don't seriously believe that Van Dyke was in on the decision to scrap the project, do you?   I'm pretty sure Van Dyke doesn't believe this, since Van Dyke has previously said that he was fired from the project after Mike questioned his lyrics.  This, to me, is just Brian once again blowing smoke over the real reason for the stillbirth -- the same thing he has done for so many years.


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I don't recall reading VDP was fired when Mike questioned his lyrics (nonsense anyway, given that he was around long after the "Cabin Essence" vocal sessions), rather that he walked out in a huff in early 1967, stayed away for a couple of weeks, came back, realised it was going nowhere and accepted Warners' offer of a solo deal.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2011, 05:08:42 PM »

Sounds like what I figure. Van Dyke, although he would have loved it to happen, could not influence a Smile release in '67 any more than Mike, Al, Carl, Dennis, Bruce or Al. It was Brian's decision.
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