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« Reply #275 on: October 13, 2011, 09:05:04 AM »

You can't tell me Brian didn't produce and arrange "Oxygen to the Brain". 
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« Reply #276 on: October 13, 2011, 09:10:26 AM »

BW has indeed produced and arranged all of those things -- TLOS, Gershwin, Disney. But bowowow's point -- that Brian outlines a basic arrangement that is then elaborated (overproduced?) by his band -- is pretty much my understanding of how it's worked over the last few years. Bowowow doesn't like the outcome of that process -- but that's his opinion.

Les's point is well taken too -- those TLOS demos and bonus tracks are about as unfiltered BW as we're likely to hear for some time. It's just him and Scott Bennett, and little else. But it is a pretty stripped-back sound.
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« Reply #277 on: October 13, 2011, 09:24:44 AM »

i wonder how often brian rejects ideas that are brought to him. i really have a tough time believing that stuff like lucky old sun or gershwin is 100% his arranging. it feels like he brings something bare to the sessions, and then his band kinda fills in the gaps and overproduces it. to me, there's something that sounds very off and artificial about gershwin/disney/etc.

I believe "Message Man," "I'm Into Something Good," "Oh Mi Amor" and "Just Like Me and You" are more indicative of what Brian Wilson solo productions sound like in the 2000's.  Like them or not, I don't know if that sound has hit potential in 2011 (not necessarily a bad thing, in my mind).
well if Amy Winshouse can have hits that have a 60's wall of sound feel to them why not Brian/beach boys? I like what George Martin once said (paraphrasing) "Great artists do what they want to do and don't listen to record companies"..so Brian (if you read this) record the songs the way YOU want to
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« Reply #278 on: October 13, 2011, 12:44:26 PM »

I'd like the title of the album to be:

   Ocean Way - The Return of The Beach Boys
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« Reply #279 on: October 13, 2011, 01:06:34 PM »

I'll bet 500 American dollars that "Ocean Way" will not be in the title.
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« Reply #280 on: October 13, 2011, 01:10:54 PM »

Yeah... Why's everybody want them to name the alleged album after a place where they recorded?  Preeetty lame. And I dont even think the album of Disney covers is lame.
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« Reply #281 on: October 13, 2011, 02:38:39 PM »

Mike would probably be all for the idea of naming it after the place they recorded it. We all know that he likes to compare The Beach Boys with The Beatles whenever possible, so now he'd have another way of doing that.
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« Reply #282 on: October 13, 2011, 03:18:08 PM »

I'll bet my horse that the tile has the word Summer in there somewhere.
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« Reply #283 on: October 13, 2011, 03:58:17 PM »

yes, I could see Mike pushing for something like  "The Beach Boys' Indian Summer"...get it?
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« Reply #284 on: October 13, 2011, 05:29:34 PM »

They could cover that song by Beat Happening if they called it that!
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« Reply #285 on: October 13, 2011, 08:57:32 PM »

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« Reply #286 on: October 14, 2011, 12:09:26 AM »

Consider:  Brian's unheard-of return to vocal form in his 60's since the release of Smile, the amazing production of the Disney record (some of his best work since 1967, IMHO), the crap-eating grin on his face in the recent FB Capitol records photos, the Smile Sessions being released in a few weeks , and the fact that he holds the ultimate hand in any BB reunion-- I'm certain he could negotiate full authority in every realm in the project, and even have Darian with him every time he's in a room with Mike (a sort-of reverse Surf-Nazi kind of deal...), or he'd be glad to walk away and return to living-legend land.

That would be the best of times, that would be the worst of times.

Were it the case.

The worst of times? You jest imo. A bit of the real, unfiltered Brian (that's not to say his recent output is somehow not real) can not be a bad thing, if that's what you were going for.

Not a Dickens fan, I see.  Smiley

I get the reference, but alas, have never read the book ;(
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« Reply #287 on: October 14, 2011, 11:21:19 AM »

Les's point is well taken too -- those TLOS demos and bonus tracks are about as unfiltered BW as we're likely to hear for some time. It's just him and Scott Bennett, and little else. But it is a pretty stripped-back sound.

And they may well be demos...but I don't believe the 2011 Brian generally has the attention span/level of interest to do more elaborate hands-on music arrangement/production.  That's why for the albums it gets assigned it to Mertens, et al.   
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« Reply #288 on: October 14, 2011, 11:22:51 AM »

I'll bet my horse that the tile has the word Summer in there somewhere.

Yep...I will be astounded if it doesn't.
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« Reply #289 on: October 14, 2011, 01:42:05 PM »

"Ocean Way" sounds great to me... There's also "Cousins, Friends and Brothers", but it's too long and unfortunately only one of these brothers is still with us.

So I'm suggesting an alternative that will please at least two parties...

"From Wilson, with Love"Cool
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« Reply #290 on: October 14, 2011, 08:20:41 PM »

"Ocean Way" sounds great to me... There's also "Cousins, Friends and Brothers", but it's too long and unfortunately only one of these brothers is still with us.

So I'm suggesting an alternative that will please at least two parties...

"From Wilson, with Love"Cool

That's awsome!  Surprised no one here's thought of it before!
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« Reply #291 on: October 14, 2011, 08:31:04 PM »

Oh that's classy.  I just got it. 



Hey.  I'm slow... .but I get there. 
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« Reply #292 on: October 15, 2011, 04:37:23 AM »

I'll bet my horse that the tile has the word Summer in there somewhere.

You have a horse?
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« Reply #293 on: October 15, 2011, 05:00:01 AM »

I'll bet my horse that the tile has the word Summer in there somewhere.

You have a horse?

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« Reply #294 on: October 15, 2011, 05:02:32 AM »

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« Reply #295 on: October 23, 2011, 07:31:51 PM »

Brian at Ocean Way yesterday:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150380545642241&set=a.452661542240.241240.34250497240&type=1&theater

(I'd post the photo but I don't know how to)
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« Reply #296 on: October 23, 2011, 07:53:50 PM »

I think it's great the way they photo-shopped Brian into the picture; makes me think he's either sleeping there or trying to figure out what all the controls actually do. 
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« Reply #297 on: October 23, 2011, 07:59:46 PM »

Great pic

Wonder what he's up to
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« Reply #298 on: October 23, 2011, 08:18:22 PM »

Does Brian appear more pixellated than usual or is it just me? I'm serious I'm on a cellphone right now so everything is not as it should be. Would be a cool photo if it wasnt blatantly shooped.
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« Reply #299 on: October 23, 2011, 08:21:12 PM »

The lighting is funny... his face look shopped
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