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« Reply #175 on: October 11, 2011, 07:33:16 AM »

Personally, I would be much more interested in seeing an album of completely-new recordings, even if the songs themselves were not new, than a mishmash of recordings taken over the last twenty or thirty years. I think older, flown-in, overdubbed, or otherwise multi-decade recordings need to be relegated to a respectfully-done archival release.
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« Reply #176 on: October 11, 2011, 07:49:59 AM »

There is one recent Brian Wilson song that was made for The Beach Boys.  Despite being released by Brian; The Beach Boys should record and release "Desert Drive".  They should simply use the backing track with Mike adding his lead vocal and the rest of the group supplying background vocals.

It would be absolutely fantastic.

Desert Drive would be a good one for the group to cover.  Also, this one was especially good live when the BW Band did it.  It has more raw  punch, along the lines of Do It Again performed live.  Mike and Brian could trade lead lines. 

Regardless of the outcome on a new release, this thread clearly shows the possibilities of putting together an enjoyable 50th anniv. release.   
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« Reply #177 on: October 11, 2011, 08:06:09 AM »

Have Brian write some tunes like 'What Love Can Do', 'Good Kind Of Love', add in an instrumental or two (Something like 'In My Moondreams' perhaps). Record the album Wall-of-Sound style, master it in mono, and people WILL know this is the Beach Boys.
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« Reply #178 on: October 11, 2011, 08:07:13 AM »

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« Reply #179 on: October 11, 2011, 08:08:41 AM »

Have Brian write some tunes like 'What Love Can Do', 'Good Kind Of Love', add in an instrumental or two (Something like 'In My Moondreams' perhaps). Record the album Wall-of-Sound style, master it in mono, and people WILL know this is the Beach Boys.
Heck get Hal Blaine and Carol Kaye in there with what remains of the now elderly wrecking crew for the wall of sound. Afro
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« Reply #180 on: October 11, 2011, 08:12:28 AM »

Rock!

Indeed! Imagine Hal Blaine rockin' out California Girls style! I wonder if this is at all possible....
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« Reply #181 on: October 11, 2011, 08:13:11 AM »

To be honest I'd much rather have them NOT use Denny or Carl vocals unless they can truly come up with some really cool way to do it.  Just to hear a new version, with hacked in vocals from "soul searchin' or 'desert drive' which have already been booted, plus already been released by Brian?  I'd much, much, much rather here new material without Carl or Dennis.  They're gone, let them be gone.

Much more tasteful, I think, would be a song about Carl or Dennis, or both.  Maybe you could write a tasteful, sad but upbeat song about them and have it fade into some studio chatter from them or something from an interview, or something.  Soul Searchin' and Desert Drive aren't really even all that good.  
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« Reply #182 on: October 11, 2011, 08:21:28 AM »

To be honest I'd much rather have them NOT use Denny or Carl vocals unless they can truly come up with some really cool way to do it.  Just to hear a new version, with hacked in vocals from "soul searchin' or 'desert drive' which have already been booted, plus already been released by Brian?  I'd much, much, much rather here new material without Carl or Dennis.  They're gone, let them be gone.

Much more tasteful, I think, would be a song about Carl or Dennis, or both.  Maybe you could write a tasteful, sad but upbeat song about them and have it fade into some studio chatter from them or something from an interview, or something.  Soul Searchin' and Desert Drive aren't really even all that good.  


Agree 100%. And honestly, I didn't like 'Don't Fight The Sea' all that much either. They have the potential to make a GREAT album here - using mediocre songs just because they have vintage Dennis/Carl vocals on them will not make for a great album.
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« Reply #183 on: October 11, 2011, 08:22:35 AM »

Wanted to add, too: of course everybody points at Real Love and Free As A Bird, those were great songs but the only reason they worked was 1. they were really well written, and 2. JOHN SOUNDED DEAD on the demos!  If you listen to those songs, John comes into the song sounding like a voice from beyond the grave.



Anybody in a big hurry to hear Carl like that?  I know I'm not.  Otherwise, you have "Soul Searchin" which Brian already did and I'm not too fond of.  
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« Reply #184 on: October 11, 2011, 08:32:42 AM »

There is one recent Brian Wilson song that was made for The Beach Boys.  Despite being released by Brian; The Beach Boys should record and release "Desert Drive".  They should simply use the backing track with Mike adding his lead vocal and the rest of the group supplying background vocals.

It would be absolutely fantastic.

yeah! First time I heard that one it made me think of early 60s BB.
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« Reply #185 on: October 11, 2011, 08:45:03 AM »

I thought Free As A Bird and Real Love were both very well done, in spite of the fact that they used John's demos which weren't quite sonically equal to the new over-dubbed vocals. In fact, that's exactly what I was thinking about when I proposed that they take existing tracks with Carl's and/or Dennis' vocals and make one or two 'new' Beach Boys recordings. It could work well, as it did for the two Beatles Anthology tracks. By the way, The Beatles did one more that wasn't used, I believe.
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« Reply #186 on: October 11, 2011, 09:05:09 AM »

I've loved Real Love from the minute I heard it at the end of episode 2 of Anthology.  Even more so now.  Go to Youtube and you'll hear a version with a slightly lower pitch more in line with John's voice. 

That said, can you imagine Nothing But Love with BB's vocals?
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« Reply #187 on: October 11, 2011, 09:06:13 AM »

Am I the only one here who's not a fan of Rick Rubin  Huh
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« Reply #188 on: October 11, 2011, 09:18:45 AM »

With all this talk of new recordings going on, do The Beach Boys have a recording contract yet to release a new album?
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« Reply #189 on: October 11, 2011, 09:52:04 AM »

dread that statement "trade leads".....

worst part of BB's sound since the late 70's was the trading of leads on almost every song...
how about this for a pleasant change... a lead vocalist ( one per song) and excellent backing vocals

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« Reply #190 on: October 11, 2011, 10:14:59 AM »

I like trading leads, not to the extreme of something like Somewhere Near Japan (which is a good song, don't get me wrong), but something like Santa Ana Winds where Al sings most of the verse and then Mike sings the last line, group chorus, Carl sings response vocals in the last chorus... that's what elevated that song from good to great in my opinion. I got into the Beach Boys because I love the fact that they all sing, everyone has a line, and for me that's what's really lacking in Brian's solo career.

And speaking of Brian's solo career, why are you all suggesting GIOMH rerecords? I thought everyone hated that album! (although this fits into my theory that Brian solo songs + Beach Boy vocals = gold. but I still think they should have new songs, songs we've never heard before.)
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« Reply #191 on: October 11, 2011, 10:18:04 AM »

i'm big on the trade leads post pet sounds.  i dig it
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« Reply #192 on: October 11, 2011, 10:33:50 AM »

And speaking of Brian's solo career, why are you all suggesting GIOMH rerecords? I thought everyone hated that album! (although this fits into my theory that Brian solo songs + Beach Boy vocals = gold. but I still think they should have new songs, songs we've never heard before.)

I don't get it either - Not only is the album rubbish, but it'd look awful to re-record songs that have already been released on a BW solo album. By all means they should go for Paley session tunes if they're looking for old stuff to record, but not the stuff already released!
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« Reply #193 on: October 11, 2011, 10:35:00 AM »

'Flown in' has become sort of a catchphrase around here. It's contagious. I feel flown in. Early this morning I was flown in. Whilst working on a text, all sorts of ideas were flown into my head. Tonight I'll be flown into sleep. But only after a good dinner has been flown into my mouth.

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« Reply #194 on: October 11, 2011, 10:48:02 AM »

SMiLE everyone, anyone?

Nah, burnt out on Smile. That's why it's refreshing to have a thread here with different subject matter for a change.

New album, anyone?

I'd love for them to pull down a couple of Wilson/Paley or Wilson/Usher tracks from the past. Or even a Sweet Insanity track that hasn't seen the light of day. I think they have plenty of Wilson-written tracks that can be used to do a Beach Boys album.

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« Reply #195 on: October 11, 2011, 11:31:42 AM »

Marketplace. That would be cool.
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« Reply #196 on: October 11, 2011, 11:53:50 AM »

Here's the album.

The Beach Boys - The Ocean Way Sessions

Do It Again 2011
Soul Searchin'
You're Still A Mystery
Don't Fight the Sea
Desert Drive
This Isn't Love
California Feelin'
Waves of Love
Some Sweet Day
Chain Reaction of Love
Everything I Need
Wouldn't it Be Nice to Live Again

And you could add a few new ones in there if you liked. But this would be a seriously good album, if performed and produced with a modicum of care.
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« Reply #197 on: October 11, 2011, 12:08:40 PM »

If I hear another rerecording of California Feelin' I'm probably gonna stop liking that song.
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« Reply #198 on: October 11, 2011, 12:12:21 PM »

If I hear another rerecording of California Feelin' I'm probably gonna stop liking that song.

Unless it's the 1974 version.  Evil
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« Reply #199 on: October 11, 2011, 12:15:14 PM »

Gotta have at least one Brian unreleased solo song from the can and at least one Mike song from the can (from his unreleased 2004 solo album?) And one from Al's solo as noted above. And maybe one from Bruce. That way, there's no egos and everybody's happy.

And maybe an unreleased Beach Boys song. An early version of California Feelin' would work!

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