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Mr. Cohen
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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November 15, 2011, 10:02:12 AM »
But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.
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Quote from: Dada on November 15, 2011, 10:02:12 AM
But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.
Ghost was ironically the the most homophobic and hateful out of everybody with his incident with Wirestone and the "Wilson brothers are gay" thread was really about trashing Jeff Foskett for the millionth time just because he didn't like "love you". The guy was a troll and a jerk who only liked the mentally ill Brian Wilson of the 1970s because he thought he was going through the same issues Brian did back then. Ghost was seriously disturbed as shown with the suicide attempt (which might have not even happened) and hardcore drug use. The moderators did the right thing kicking him off the board.
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Quote from: Dada on November 15, 2011, 10:02:12 AM
But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.
Pretty sure ghost wasn't trying to discuss the intricacies of the Wilson Brother's sexuality beyond 'who can I piss off today'.
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Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.
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Quote from: SMiLE Brian on November 15, 2011, 10:22:07 AM
Quote from: Dada on November 15, 2011, 10:02:12 AM
But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.
Ghost was ironically the the most homophobic and hateful out of everybody with his incident with Wirestone and the "Wilson brothers are gay" thread was really about trashing Jeff Foskett for the millionth time just because he didn't like "love you". The guy was a troll and a jerk who only liked the mentally ill Brian Wilson of the 1970s because he thought he was going through the same issues Brian did back then. Ghost was seriously disturbed as shown with the suicide attempt (which might have not even happened) and hardcore drug use. The moderators did the right thing kicking him off the board.
That's what I'm saying. His posts weren't even based on anything in reality. While I respect everyone's opinions, I take the following issues with Dada's response:
1. There's nothing wrong with liking the songwriting from BW 88.
- I have nothing against Brian's writing at the time. Some of those songs are my favorites from Brian's solo career. My point was that the post I was pointing to made it sound as if this was some glorious working combination along the lines of Brian's collaborations with Mike, Gary, Roger, Tony, Van Dyke, etc. But it wasn't. It was Landy using Brian's talents to further his own wealth. Exactly why his name has been removed from the writing credits of the reissue of Brian's first solo album.
2. The idea of Manson being referenced in "Little Bird" is plausible, although we don't have any hard evidence.
- It is plausible, but was clearly only brought up due to the touchiness of the subject of Dennis' friendship with Manson. And Jon probably knows more about this, but according to Andrew's site, "Little Bird" was recorded in February, giving Dennis two months to have been entranced by Manson (by all accounts, they met in 1968). Also, it was, I believe, Steve Kalinich who was the main lyricist behind this song and I've never heard of anything between him and Charles Manson.
3. Let's just say that Brian's sex life with Marilyn was really weird at times. And Tandyn Almer probably did both of them. Dennis used to talk about how he was once raped/almost raped by some black guys (you think I'm joking? - that tidbit is in one of the more respected Beach Boys bios). Carl was very sensitive. That's all. So who's to say?
- Whatever the nature of any of their sex lives/preferences, the particular post in question was taken entirely out of context, and done so, obviously for shock value. There is no way on earth ghost read just that one quote out of the entire article. And, even if he had, curiosity would almost force anyone to read more. And, I have to point out that just because someone gets raped by the same sex, doesn't make them not straight. Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.
I could be wrong on a few points above, so correct me if I am. Again, it wasn't my intent to rehash the banning of ghost. I merely became annoyed with reading good posts that were interrupted out of nowhere by nonsensical, ludicrous babble. So, I do apologize for part of my post moving this thread off topic, but I am very glad the board is now (relatively) free of this.
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And, I have to point out that just because someone gets raped by the same sex, doesn't make them not straight. Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.
It's the fact that Dennis would bring it up semi-frequently as some kind of weird joke/story is what makes it suspect.
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Quote from: positivemusic link=topic=10759.msg229133#msg229133
Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.
Actually, you are wrong: rape happens because rapers want to rape.
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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November 15, 2011, 12:10:26 PM »
Quote from: Dada on November 15, 2011, 10:01:35 AM
1. There's nothing wrong with liking the songwriting from BW 88.
wait there are people who don't like bw88?
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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Quote from: b00ts on November 15, 2011, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: positivemusic link=topic=10759.msg229133#msg229133
Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.
Actually, you are wrong: rape happens because rapers want to rape.
In Dennis' case, I think he was referencing from the victim's point of view.
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Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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November 15, 2011, 12:35:07 PM »
Quote from: runnersdialzero on November 15, 2011, 10:40:44 AM
Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.
I'm with Runnersdialzero on this one.
My only criticism might be that he posted a little too much for his own good, giving the haters really no option but to hate, hate, hate. When he first resurfaced many regular posters chimed in their support for Ghost and his unconventional take (toke) on the music.
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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November 15, 2011, 12:49:01 PM »
Quote from: buddhahat on November 15, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: runnersdialzero on November 15, 2011, 10:40:44 AM
Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.
I'm with Runnersdialzero on this one.
My only criticism might be that he posted a little too much for his own good, giving the haters really no option but to hate, hate, hate. When he first resurfaced many regular posters chimed in their support for Ghost and his unconventional take (toke) on the music.
You guys always fail to add that he ignored the warnings of the Mods. That didn't exactly help his cause any.
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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Quote from: drbeachboy on November 15, 2011, 12:49:01 PM
Quote from: buddhahat on November 15, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: runnersdialzero on November 15, 2011, 10:40:44 AM
Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.
I'm with Runnersdialzero on this one.
My only criticism might be that he posted a little too much for his own good, giving the haters really no option but to hate, hate, hate. When he first resurfaced many regular posters chimed in their support for Ghost and his unconventional take (toke) on the music.
You guys always fail to add that he ignored the warnings of the Mods. That didn't exactly help his cause any.
Fair point.
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let's just say wild honey...well anything would sound amazing after listening 2 smiley smile lol jk
actually i like the mysterious-ness of smiley smile..it's the abortion of the great "smile."
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Quote from: Newguy562 on November 16, 2011, 02:47:20 PM
let's just say wild honey...well anything would sound amazing after listening 2 smiley smile lol jk
actually i like the mysterious-ness of smiley smile..it's the abortion of the great "smile."
Yes, Smiley Smile is a funhouse-mirror image of SMiLe. Very cool to have both of them and BWPS here in 2011.
Incidentally, Newguy562, this post was coherent and readable, so keep up the good work. Maybe lose the "2" "LOL" and "JK" - typing the word "to" instead of "2" should be pretty easy - and you'll be an unimpeachable poster here on SS.net.
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I can get with a little lol and jks!
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Quote from: ontor pertawst on October 06, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
All roads lead to Kokomo. Exhaustive research in time travel has conclusively proven that there is no alternate universe WITHOUT Kokomo. It would've happened regardless.
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 15, 2012, 12:33:42 PM
What is this "life" thing you speak of ?
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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Quote from: b00ts on November 16, 2011, 03:50:56 PM
Quote from: Newguy562 on November 16, 2011, 02:47:20 PM
let's just say wild honey...well anything would sound amazing after listening 2 smiley smile lol jk
actually i like the mysterious-ness of smiley smile..it's the abortion of the great "smile."
Yes, Smiley Smile is a funhouse-mirror image of SMiLe. Very cool to have both of them and BWPS here in 2011.
Incidentally, Newguy562, this post was coherent and readable, so keep up the good work. Maybe lose the "2" "LOL" and "JK" - typing the word "to" instead of "2" should be pretty easy - and you'll be an unimpeachable poster here on SS.net.
I'm slowly progressing lol. Yes instead of abortion i would consider it a funhouse mirror image of smile.
At first listen i was strangely afraid of it but i always found it interesting cuz of the whole smile myth & the album cover art. Also how sum parts of smile was in it but overall it's its own album &. i love it.
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Wild Honey...
It's no Wishbone Ash but it's ok.
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Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...' I love how easy going Wild honey is, it's very relaxing and almost bluesy. A definitely under appreciated BB album.
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Mark-pull the first part of the song off comp real P0216643 and back to P0189510 for the chorus. Wait, sorry, it's on the second half of the 'our prayer' reel, P026636, 22 minutes in. Tracks 2,4 and 5, see? Wow, this is tiring work...
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Quote from: Caroline, Now on November 16, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...'
"lame obnoxious loser". i got into a lot of fights over that. like real, physical fights involving golf clubs.
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on November 16, 2011, 04:35:51 PM
Quote from: Caroline, Now on November 16, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...'
"lame obnoxious loser". i got into a lot of fights over that. like real, physical fights involving golf clubs.
Wow... And I thought I was bad.
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Mark-pull the first part of the song off comp real P0216643 and back to P0189510 for the chorus. Wait, sorry, it's on the second half of the 'our prayer' reel, P026636, 22 minutes in. Tracks 2,4 and 5, see? Wow, this is tiring work...
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Re: W i l d H o n e y
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on November 16, 2011, 04:35:51 PM
Quote from: Caroline, Now on November 16, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...'
"lame obnoxious loser". i got into a lot of fights over that. like real, physical fights involving golf clubs.
The adventures of runnersdialzero...
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Quote from: Caroline, Now on November 16, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...' I love how easy going Wild honey is, it's very relaxing and almost bluesy. A definitely under appreciated BB album.
Yup, you are the only one. Well besides a friend of a friend which certainly made a fool out of herself a couple of times;
- "My grandmother died"
- "Aw, that's so sad
- I'm here for you. LOL"
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wow, that's terrible!
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I wonder if a wild honey flavoured muffin would be tasty
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Well now that I've successfully derailed this thread, off to find some more to sabotage
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Mark-pull the first part of the song off comp real P0216643 and back to P0189510 for the chorus. Wait, sorry, it's on the second half of the 'our prayer' reel, P026636, 22 minutes in. Tracks 2,4 and 5, see? Wow, this is tiring work...
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