W i l d H o n e y

[ghost]

Brian Wilson said he was going for the white spiritual sound. By the way, have you noticed how we all strangely refer to him like this many times? We all know who "Brian" usually stands for round here yet continue to say Wilson. Anyway - Brian wanted to start a race war after hearing Helter Skelter so he released I Wasn't Made To Love Her to show the blacks who's best.

Nice theory, but I believe that I Wasn't Made to Love Her came out before Helter Skelter.

Nice theory, but time does not exist.

Hmmm....thus the song Cease to Exist?

Exactly when you cease to exist as a self-perpetuating thought continuum of "I"-centric perspectival biases, time which is but the pitiful attempt of the nervous system to fragment the universal fire [think, Heraclitus (have to love a man whose name reminds you of a woman's kitten)] in past, present, future to maintain the structure of egoity. When you cease to exist in the prior explained manner, time also ceases to exist in the old way. You merge into ever re-occuring nowness. There are no reference points - there is no past, no present, no future. All your concepts are illusions - abstractions of psychedelic chaos & space-voidness.

[Mike's Beard]

Hey Charlie, has somebody smuggled another Blackberry up his arse into your cell again?

[ghost]

Hey Charlie, has somebody smuggled another Blackberry up his arse into your cell again?

I know a brotha on the mainline who can get me the Smile Sessions right now. Goes by the name of Spector. It'll cost you though...

[Magic Transistor Radio]

http://youtu.be/hgXlHWF3_Go

Ghost, are you a charactor from this movie?

[ghost]

http://youtu.be/hgXlHWF3_Go

Ghost, are you a charactor from this movie?

No need to be that harsh man.

[BillA]

I am of two minds on 'Wild Honey'.

First, it is a great collection of songs with 'Darlin', WH and 'Let the Wind Blow' being the stand outs.

On the other hand I have never cared for the production.  For an attempt at an R&B sound it is too laid back (except for WH and 'I was Made to Love Her' which get their drove from Carl's vocals more than anything else).

the quality songs of the songs comes through in the live recordings of the songs, which are, without exception, a vast improvement over the studio versions.  "Aren't You Glad" from 'Live in London' should have been released as a single.  I have always thought it was that good.

[puni puni]

I definitely would like Wild Honey better if it were in stereo. Do the multi-tracks for WH and Aren't You Glad still exist? I hope so... they're the best tracks on the album, discounting Let The Wind Blow.

[The Heartical Don]

I am of two minds on 'Wild Honey'.

First, it is a great collection of songs with 'Darlin', WH and 'Let the Wind Blow' being the stand outs.

On the other hand I have never cared for the production.  For an attempt at an R&B sound it is too laid back (except for WH and 'I was Made to Love Her' which get their drove from Carl's vocals more than anything else).

the quality songs of the songs comes through in the live recordings of the songs, which are, without exception, a vast improvement over the studio versions.  "Aren't You Glad" from 'Live in London' should have been released as a single.  I have always thought it was that good.

...which nicely reflects my feelings, partially that is. The production takes away a lot of potential as to a really R&B-driven sound. Did I say 'production'? In reality, it is in shoddy mono, without any sense of balance. WH as we know it sounds like a bunch of demos, unproduced demos, meagre first attempts at doing material with truly great potential. It has firmly distorted bass and a very limited top end. The hand drumming was probably glued in as an afterthought, and recorded in a phone cell at the other end of the world.

Sorry to come over all harsh. I wouldn't devote a word to it if I found the songs themselves bad. But I love them (with the exception of How She). And yes, the live recordings reveal the greatness inherent in the songs.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

I think its perfectly OK to wish the album were in stereo and to have our feelings about the mono mix.

We obviously can't say enough about the songs (most of them) the vocals and the performances (mostly)...... therefore, I hardly think we're splitting hairs here by wishing the dang thing simply sounded better. it is an AUDIO RECORDING after all!

I happen to really really wish Ringo hadn't used put that damn towel over his snare drum Sgt Pepper onward! Sure, it gave his playing extra character, but, it still sounded like he was beating a cardboard box! ..... Then again, I also happen to believe those early Beatle album had THE best drum sound of all-time!

[MBE]

Love mono, love the mix. The compression is killer.

[puni puni]

The sound of Ringo's drums after 1965 are one of my favorite things about El Beetels.

[ghost]

It's straight up blasphemy to want this album in stereo [duality, the devil]. It would fall apart since some of the tracks are pretty austere. Mono is the glue holding it together. In mono it exists singularly dimensionally - you can pick it up and put it in your pocket. In mono, there are no distinctions between one thing and another really. They're all coming out of the same god-center. Brian knew this hence his multilayer of different instruments in his productions. It's all one, dig.

[hypehat]

Brian Wilson said he was going for the white spiritual sound. By the way, have you noticed how we all strangely refer to him like this many times? We all know who "Brian" usually stands for round here yet continue to say Wilson. Anyway - Brian wanted to start a race war after hearing Helter Skelter so he released I Wasn't Made To Love Her to show the blacks who's best.

Nice theory, but I believe that I Wasn't Made to Love Her came out before Helter Skelter.

Nice theory, but time does not exist.

I like your style of argument

[Compost]

Love Wild Honey - I wouldn't change a thing.  It's rawness is like a freshly picked scab - gross but satisfying.

The final four Capitol records (Smiley to 20/20) are my favourites.  So much variety!

[The Heartical Don]

It's straight up blasphemy to want this album in stereo [duality, the devil]. It would fall apart since some of the tracks are pretty austere. Mono is the glue holding it together. In mono it exists singularly dimensionally - you can pick it up and put it in your pocket. In mono, there are no distinctions between one thing and another really. They're all coming out of the same god-center. Brian knew this hence his multilayer of different instruments in his productions. It's all one, dig.

Thought as much. Cheers for that.

[Newguy562]

WILD HONEY!

Am I the only one who finds this album to be ten times more interesting than SMiLE (in any form)? I could listen to Wild Honey/Aren't You Glad/Here Comes The Night/A Thing Or Two/Let The Wind Blow etc FOREVER. Those are some psychedelic, happening songs. Brian/Mike at their best! Most ecstatic and carefree! Where did they get so much soul? Bruce becomes God when he plays organ solos. Also, Wild Honey/Wind Chimes is the best A/B ever made! Most psychedelic! I've never heard the sessions for this album, just a few stereo mixes which I did not like at all.

How do you all play the music? I play the mono albums through a Marshall guitar amp. I raise the mids a lot and the gain a little and blast the volume. Incredible experience to hear this album in such a way!



they are both interesting..i member when i seen the cover art 4 wild honey it captured my attention and when i heard the music at 1st i hated it..den grew 2 love it after a couple more listens

[Newguy562]

From Venezuela, courtesy of EBay, the almost perfect union: 

   

sucha strange combination yet fascinating wat songs are on it?

[Newguy562]

I think I must be the only person on this board that doesn't like Wild Honey, I must have listened to it 30 or more times and I simply don't get the fascination with it, to me it sounds lazy and like a demo. I do like Darlin', Country Air and Mama Says but that's it - songs like A Thing Or To and How She Boogaloed it make me cringe.

well first off..the cover art 4 it is better den any other bb album cover..and the low quality sounds on it gives it a dirty sound lol idk how 2 explain it but it's very interesting

[Alex]

Is ghost/nobody back?

[runnersdialzero]

Is ghost/nobody back?

Incredibly insulting to ghost imo.

[Rocker]

Those are some psychedelic, happening songs.

Nothing psychedelic about the album in any form. Just a great album done in the way Sam Phillips (of SUN Records) would've recorded it

[Newguy562]

Those are some psychedelic, happening songs.

Nothing psychedelic about the album in any form. Just a great album done in the way Sam Phillips (of SUN Records) would've recorded it

wild honey (song) sounds psychadelic.. thats about it.

[SMiLE Brian]

Is ghost/nobody back?

I think so, least we got the trolls to leave during the awesome SMiLE release week.

[SMiLE Brian]

Those are some psychedelic, happening songs.

Nothing psychedelic about the album in any form. Just a great album done in the way Sam Phillips (of SUN Records) would've recorded it

Sam Phillips actually making an album with the group sounds awesome.

[Rocker]

Those are some psychedelic, happening songs.

Nothing psychedelic about the album in any form. Just a great album done in the way Sam Phillips (of SUN Records) would've recorded it

Sam Phillips actually making an album with the group sounds awesome.

Unfortunately it's too late.