W i l d H o n e y

[c-man]

WILD HONEY!

I play the mono albums through a Marshall guitar amp. I raise the mids a lot and the gain a little and blast the volume. Incredible experience to hear this album in such a way!

Wow, that's...that's just...wow, I don't know WHAT to say about THAT...!
I WILL say THIS...I used to get a bad head cold once or twice a year...but not since February two years ago, when I listened to the WILD HONEY album almost non-stop.  Could that be the medicine that cured me of the common cold, once & for all?  I don't know, but maybe!  (Or maybe it's because I irrigate my sinuses with saline spray twice a day now, but I choose to believe WILD Honey, the album, had something to do with it as well!).

[rogerlancelot]

Interesting. I ordered the Smiley Smile / Wild Honey twofer back in 1999 off of Amazon (could only get an imported copy by the way). The day it arrived I had called into work sick (I had the flu really bad with a temp of over 104 etc.) and I wound up playing the cd anyway. It didn't make me feel better at all. If anything I was seriously considering the fact that I had just been ripped off. It took a few more listens to really appreciate it and it wasn't really until I was over the flu that I started playing it continuously for weeks. Lo fi music is not very good for the flu but a later time I was sick I wound up watching some early seasons of Spongebob which actually was about all that I could handle without throwing up.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Pet Sounds  psychedelic? Nope-not a chance-wiki was off on that one-of course GV certainly was. WH  was not in any way psychedelic.

So let me get this straight: you tell us to go look at wikipedia to find out what psychedelic music is and then when we actually do go to wikipedia and find something that you disagree with, the source that you initially gave to prove us wrong suddenly lacks credibility? You have officially given up your right to be taken seriously in this dicussion.

Get this straight, proving anyone wrong wasn't the point, jack. If you r e a d it, (try it slower next time) you'll see that it  does a faily good job at explaining what kind of music it is-and I said that I don't agree that PS or WH  qualify as that brand of music. And, further, you may want to take note that I do agree that GV was part of the genre, so button up RR -if you wanna argue all night, bring it on, Clem.

Like I said, you entirely forfeited the right to be taken seriously when you made it abundantly clear that you were not prepared to have this discussion in good faith. Your playground tirade that came in lieu of a real response to my post is only further evidence that you are simply unwilling to participate in a rational discussion. Who would want to "argue all night" with someone like that?

Oh, obviously  someone with your mentality and "rationality".

Cut the sh*t.

I love Smile and Pet Sounds and much of the early stuff, but I partially agree with Billy 1967-72 is a facinating era. I wouldn't say Wild Honey is better than everything that came before it, but man it is great. Brian and I talked about it and even a little bit about the original LP lineup.

I think Pet Sounds and Smile are 'better' but prefer listening to WH thru Holland. Kinda hard to explain, really, I just do.

[Jay]

I understand that perfectly, because I'm the same exact way. 

[rogerlancelot]

I agree except for me it's Smiley Smile through In Concert. I also bust out Love You and Light Album a lot. I love to show people Pet Sounds and SMiLE if they have never heard them before.

Actually the 2 cds I play the most (in my car for instance) are Carl & The Passions So Tough and Heroes & Villains Sessions Vol 2 (which means I think I can get into that boxed set if you know what I mean!).

Since it is on-topic, I'll say my favorites on WH are "Aren't You Glad", "Darlin'", "Let The Wind Blow", "Country Air" and "Here Comes The Night". "A Thing Or Two" gets on my nerves in a way that only "Gettin' Hungry" matches. "Boogalood" should self-explode. I don't like Carl's voice on the title track. Other great tracks were made around this time ("Can't Wait Too Long", "Time To Get Alone", etc.) but instead we get "Mama Says" which is technically brilliant but probably got laughed at in the time it was released (late '67). Maybe Brian really DID need to just chill out and let his brothers write and produce more at the time.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

I don't believe that something has to be highly produced in the vain of Smile to be psychadelic. Smiley Smile is perhaps the most psychadelic album the BBs ever did, but it was also very raw. I don't think WH is overall psychadelic, but the title track is, and Let the Wind Blow to me. In my personal WH mix, I added the early Good Vibrations with Asher's lyrics. It fits in well!

My personal Wild Honey album:

1. Wild Honey
2. Gettin Hungry
3. Country Air
4. How She Boogalood It
5. Transcendental Meditation (I know it came later but I like the way it fits)
6. Whistle In
7. Good Vibrations (early take)
8. Darlin
9. Aren't You Glad
10. Here Comes the Night
11. Let the Wind Blow
12. A Thing or Two
13. Can't Wait Too Long

Recently, Smiley, WH, Friends and Love You have been my favorite BBs albums. I love the simplistic, yet brilliant arrangements. Let the Wind Blow and Country Air are two songs I have been really into lately.

[Jay]

Wild Honey, the song itself, is a really good song. It's just to bad that Carl wasn't a few years older than when he sang it. It seems as though the notes are right at Carl's "breaking point". As a result, it kind of sounds like a kid having a temper tantrum.  

[MBE]

Pet Sounds  psychedelic? Nope-not a chance-wiki was off on that one-of course GV certainly was. WH  was not in any way psychedelic.

So let me get this straight: you tell us to go look at wikipedia to find out what psychedelic music is and then when we actually do go to wikipedia and find something that you disagree with, the source that you initially gave to prove us wrong suddenly lacks credibility? You have officially given up your right to be taken seriously in this dicussion.

Get this straight, proving anyone wrong wasn't the point, jack. If you r e a d it, (try it slower next time) you'll see that it  does a faily good job at explaining what kind of music it is-and I said that I don't agree that PS or WH  qualify as that brand of music. And, further, you may want to take note that I do agree that GV was part of the genre, so button up RR -if you wanna argue all night, bring it on, Clem.

Like I said, you entirely forfeited the right to be taken seriously when you made it abundantly clear that you were not prepared to have this discussion in good faith. Your playground tirade that came in lieu of a real response to my post is only further evidence that you are simply unwilling to participate in a rational discussion. Who would want to "argue all night" with someone like that?

Oh, obviously  someone with your mentality and "rationality".

Cut the sh*t.

I love Smile and Pet Sounds and much of the early stuff, but I partially agree with Billy 1967-72 is a facinating era. I wouldn't say Wild Honey is better than everything that came before it, but man it is great. Brian and I talked about it and even a little bit about the original LP lineup.

I think Pet Sounds and Smile are 'better' but prefer listening to WH thru Holland. Kinda hard to explain, really, I just do.

Right I understand that. Myself I play all the 1963-73 stuff the most, but I have to be in a mood for something like Pet Sounds as great as it is. Wild Honey, Sunflower, Today, those I can play anytime.

[runnersdialzero]

The word "psychedelic" is dumb, especially to describe music. Use other words instead imo.

[sockittome]

My personal WILD HONEY album consists of stereo mixes for all but three of the songs, with "Mama Says" deleted and "The Letter" and "Can't Wait" tacked on the end.  That, my friends is a near perfect album!  (Perfect would be all stereo!)

[sockittome]

The word "psychedelic" is dumb, especially to describe music. Use other words instead imo.

Psychedelic is Electric Prunes' "I Had Too Much to Dream Last Night" or Strawberry Alarm Clock's "Incense and Peppermints" .   WH doesn't sound anything like that!

[runnersdialzero]

My personal WILD HONEY album consists of stereo mixes for all but three of the songs, with "Mama Says" deleted and "The Letter" and "Can't Wait" tacked on the end.  That, my friends is a near perfect album!  (Perfect would be all stereo!)

Why do you guys baleet tracks. Why. It's "Mama Says". It's not the 40 minute bull sessions with large father. At its very worst, it's inoffensive.

[ghost]

The word "psychedelic" is dumb, especially to describe music. Use other words instead imo.

Not everyone is as straight edge as you, Ryan.

[Paulos]

I think I must be the only person on this board that doesn't like Wild Honey, I must have listened to it 30 or more times and I simply don't get the fascination with it, to me it sounds lazy and like a demo. I do like Darlin', Country Air and Mama Says but that's it - songs like A Thing Or To and How She Boogaloed it make me cringe.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

My personal, PERFECT Wild Honey would be:

1. Wild Honey
2. Aren't You Glad
3. I Was Made To Love Her
4. Country Air
5. A Thing Or Two
6. Darlin
7. I'd Love Just Once To See You
8. Here Comes The Night
9. Let The Wind Blow
10. How She Boogalooed It
11. Mama Says

[Mikie]

So............the Wild Honey album in stereo. I've heard one fan mix in particular that is very good. Another guy did pretty good stereo versions of "Darlin' And Wild Honey". If we were to compile a true stereo version of the entire Wild Honey album, what tracks have already been released that we could start with? "Let The Wind Blow" is one.

And what's the reason again that a stereo version of the Wild Honey couldn't be mixed and released? Multi-tracks are missing, vocals were recorded on the fly, what? I think Alan Boyd touched on this once.

Anybody?

[hypehat]

My personal, PERFECT Wild Honey would be:

1. Wild Honey
2. Aren't You Glad
3. I Was Made To Love Her
4. Country Air
5. A Thing Or Two
6. Darlin
7. I'd Love Just Once To See You
8. Here Comes The Night
9. Let The Wind Blow
10. How She Boogalooed It
11. Mama Says

[Mikie]

Hey, that kinda looks like Christine McVie!

[Shady]

Can I just thank Mikie for making me aware of fan stereo mixes of Wild Honey..

I'm in heaven right now 

[SMiLE Brian]

Can I just thank Mikie for making me aware of fan stereo mixes of Wild Honey..

I'm in heaven right now 

Same here, my one problem with Wild Honey has been it sounds so flat when I listen to it.

[Mikie]

Shady, when's the Smile box coming out?

[Shady]

Shady, when's the Smile box coming out?

Less than 2 months

October 4th 

[Mikie]

Thank you, Shady!   Whew, I can't wait!!!

[David Kennedy]

I agree except for me it's Smiley Smile through In Concert. I also bust out Love You and Light Album a lot. I love to show people Pet Sounds and SMiLE if they have never heard them before.

Actually the 2 cds I play the most (in my car for instance) are Carl & The Passions So Tough and Heroes & Villains Sessions Vol 2 (which means I think I can get into that boxed set if you know what I mean!).

Since it is on-topic, I'll say my favorites on WH are "Aren't You Glad", "Darlin'", "Let The Wind Blow", "Country Air" and "Here Comes The Night". "A Thing Or Two" gets on my nerves in a way that only "Gettin' Hungry" matches. "Boogalood" should self-explode. I don't like Carl's voice on the title track. Other great tracks were made around this time ("Can't Wait Too Long", "Time To Get Alone", etc.) but instead we get "Mama Says" which is technically brilliant but probably got laughed at in the time it was released (late '67). Maybe Brian really DID need to just chill out and let his brothers write and produce more at the time.

With "Can't Wait Too Long" and "Time To Get Alone" being Wild Honey era tracks what are some other songs  that didn't get put on the album?

[Mikie]

The Letter, Game Of Love, Lonely Days, Honey Get Home, and maaaaybe Cool, Cool Water was considered. Hawthorne Boulavard was another maybe, but was more of a "Lei'd In Hawaii" track.