W i l d H o n e y

[Mr. Cohen]

But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.

[SMiLE Brian]

But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.

Ghost was ironically the the most homophobic and hateful out of everybody with his incident with Wirestone and the "Wilson brothers are gay" thread was really about trashing Jeff Foskett for the millionth time just because he didn't like "love you". The guy was a troll and a jerk who only liked the mentally ill Brian Wilson of the 1970s because he thought he was going through the same issues Brian did back then. Ghost was seriously disturbed as shown with the suicide attempt (which might have not even happened) and hardcore drug use. The moderators did the right thing kicking him off the board.

[hypehat]

But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.

Pretty sure ghost wasn't trying to discuss the intricacies of the Wilson Brother's sexuality beyond 'who can I piss off today'. 

Carl was very sensitive

Open and shut case then.....

[runnersdialzero]

Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.

[positivemusic]

But, of course, if you make posts like I just did, the homophobes come out in full force. Brian would be less of a man in their eyes if he was bisexual.

Ghost was ironically the the most homophobic and hateful out of everybody with his incident with Wirestone and the "Wilson brothers are gay" thread was really about trashing Jeff Foskett for the millionth time just because he didn't like "love you". The guy was a troll and a jerk who only liked the mentally ill Brian Wilson of the 1970s because he thought he was going through the same issues Brian did back then. Ghost was seriously disturbed as shown with the suicide attempt (which might have not even happened) and hardcore drug use. The moderators did the right thing kicking him off the board.

That's what I'm saying. His posts weren't even based on anything in reality. While I respect everyone's opinions, I take the following issues with Dada's response:
1. There's nothing wrong with liking the songwriting from BW 88.
      - I have nothing against Brian's writing at the time. Some of those songs are my favorites from Brian's solo career. My point was that the post I was pointing to made it sound as if this was some glorious working combination along the lines of Brian's collaborations with Mike, Gary, Roger, Tony, Van Dyke, etc. But it wasn't. It was Landy using Brian's talents to further his own wealth. Exactly why his name has been removed from the writing credits of the reissue of Brian's first solo album.
2. The idea of Manson being referenced in "Little Bird" is plausible, although we don't have any hard evidence.
      - It is plausible, but was clearly only brought up due to the touchiness of the subject of Dennis' friendship with Manson. And Jon probably knows more about this, but according to Andrew's site, "Little Bird" was recorded in February, giving Dennis two months to have been entranced by Manson (by all accounts, they met in 1968). Also, it was, I believe, Steve Kalinich who was the main lyricist behind this song and I've never heard of anything between him and Charles Manson.
3. Let's just say that Brian's sex life with Marilyn was really weird at times. And Tandyn Almer probably did both of them. Dennis used to talk about how he was once raped/almost raped by some black guys (you think I'm joking? - that tidbit is in one of the more respected Beach Boys bios). Carl was very sensitive. That's all. So who's to say?
      - Whatever the nature of any of their sex lives/preferences, the particular post in question was taken entirely out of context, and done so, obviously for shock value. There is no way on earth ghost read just that one quote out of the entire article. And, even if he had, curiosity would almost force anyone to read more. And, I have to point out that just because someone gets raped by the same sex, doesn't make them not straight. Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.

I could be wrong on a few points above, so correct me if I am. Again, it wasn't my intent to rehash the banning of ghost. I merely became annoyed with reading good posts that were interrupted out of nowhere by nonsensical, ludicrous babble. So, I do apologize for part of my post moving this thread off topic, but I am very glad the board is now (relatively) free of this.

[Mr. Cohen]

And, I have to point out that just because someone gets raped by the same sex, doesn't make them not straight. Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.

It's the fact that Dennis would bring it up semi-frequently as some kind of weird joke/story is what makes it suspect.

[b00ts]

Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.

Actually, you are wrong: rape happens because rapers want to rape.

[puni puni]

1. There's nothing wrong with liking the songwriting from BW 88.

wait there are people who don't like bw88?

[drbeachboy]

Rape isn't something that happens because anyone wants it to.

Actually, you are wrong: rape happens because rapers want to rape.

In Dennis' case, I think he was referencing from the victim's point of view.

[buddhahat]

Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.

I'm with Runnersdialzero on this one.

My only criticism might be that he posted a little too much for his own good, giving the haters really no option but to hate, hate, hate. When he first resurfaced many regular posters chimed in their support for Ghost and his unconventional take (toke) on the music.

[drbeachboy]

Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.

I'm with Runnersdialzero on this one.

My only criticism might be that he posted a little too much for his own good, giving the haters really no option but to hate, hate, hate. When he first resurfaced many regular posters chimed in their support for Ghost and his unconventional take (toke) on the music.

You guys always fail to add that he ignored the warnings of the Mods. That didn't exactly help his cause any.

[buddhahat]

Off-topic, but someone who attempts suicide isn't necessarily "disturbed". I also can't see someone being a Beach Boys fan solely because they related to Brian's mental illness in the 70s. I think he had some pretty cool insights etc. and wasn't a troll.

I'm with Runnersdialzero on this one.

My only criticism might be that he posted a little too much for his own good, giving the haters really no option but to hate, hate, hate. When he first resurfaced many regular posters chimed in their support for Ghost and his unconventional take (toke) on the music.

You guys always fail to add that he ignored the warnings of the Mods. That didn't exactly help his cause any.

Fair point.

[Newguy562]

let's just say wild honey...well anything would sound amazing after listening 2 smiley smile lol jk
actually i like the mysterious-ness of smiley smile..it's the abortion of the great "smile."

[b00ts]

let's just say wild honey...well anything would sound amazing after listening 2 smiley smile lol jk
actually i like the mysterious-ness of smiley smile..it's the abortion of the great "smile."

Yes, Smiley Smile is a funhouse-mirror image of SMiLe. Very cool to have both of them and BWPS here in 2011.

Incidentally, Newguy562, this post was coherent and readable, so keep up the good work. Maybe lose the "2" "LOL" and "JK" - typing the word "to" instead of "2" should be pretty easy - and you'll be an unimpeachable poster here on SS.net.

[hypehat]

I can get with a little lol and jks!

[Newguy562]

let's just say wild honey...well anything would sound amazing after listening 2 smiley smile lol jk
actually i like the mysterious-ness of smiley smile..it's the abortion of the great "smile."

Yes, Smiley Smile is a funhouse-mirror image of SMiLe. Very cool to have both of them and BWPS here in 2011.

Incidentally, Newguy562, this post was coherent and readable, so keep up the good work. Maybe lose the "2" "LOL" and "JK" - typing the word "to" instead of "2" should be pretty easy - and you'll be an unimpeachable poster here on SS.net.

I'm slowly progressing lol. Yes instead of abortion i would consider it a funhouse mirror image of smile.
At first listen i was strangely afraid of it but i always found it interesting cuz of the whole smile myth & the album cover art. Also how sum parts of smile was in it but overall it's its own album &. i love it.

[Jason]

Wild Honey...

It's no Wishbone Ash but it's ok.

[Caroline, Now]

Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...' I love how easy going Wild honey is, it's very relaxing and almost bluesy. A definitely under appreciated BB album.

[runnersdialzero]

Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...'

"lame obnoxious loser". i got into a lot of fights over that. like real, physical fights involving golf clubs.

[Caroline, Now]

Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...'

"lame obnoxious loser". i got into a lot of fights over that. like real, physical fights involving golf clubs.

Wow... And I thought I was bad.

[SMiLE Brian]

Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...'

"lame obnoxious loser". i got into a lot of fights over that. like real, physical fights involving golf clubs.

The adventures of runnersdialzero...

[tansen]

Am I the only one who used to think LOL stood for 'lots of love...' I love how easy going Wild honey is, it's very relaxing and almost bluesy. A definitely under appreciated BB album.

Yup, you are the only one. Well besides a friend of a friend which certainly made a fool out of herself a couple of times;

- "My grandmother died"
- "Aw, that's so sad - I'm here for you. LOL"

[Aegir]

wow, that's terrible!

[Sam_BFC]

I wonder if a wild honey flavoured muffin would be tasty 

[Caroline, Now]

Well now that I've successfully derailed this thread, off to find some more to sabotage