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[drbeachboy]

Being a minority with our hardcore love of The Beach Boys, you would think at the very least that we would be more friendly and courteous to each other. We come together here to share our love of the band and music, yet we rip each other incessantly. Let's all stop acting like a-holes to each other. Let's Be Friends!

[bgas]

As far as Mark answering questions goes, presumably Capitol would not be best pleased if he was giving away information before this thing is released. Might he even have signed some confidentiality agreement?

I don't get why Capitol would care so much. It's not like these are strategic weapons secrets. It's just a 40+ year old Beach Boys project! And honestly, people who are going to buy The Smile Sesssions are going to buy it no matter what information is or isn't leaked. In fact, a few more leaks would generate additional excitement for the release!  The only way keeping everything secret could be working out in their favor is if they haven't found much of anything that isn't already booted, meaning that we're only going to get higher quality versions of what we already have. That's why the "Cabin Essence" single didn't impress me much. For example - an unheard alternative "Heroes and Villains" mix - even if it was from a scratchy acetate - would've been considerably more exciting.

Don't get me wrong, getting high quality versions of what we already have is a GREAT thing, but it's not the earth-shattering breakthrough all the silence has some people preparing for.

But right up there, you've said it all! We/Us/Them are all buying it anyway, why should Capitol worry what we think? 

Being a minority with our hardcore love of The Beach Boys, you would think at the very least that we would be more friendly and courteous to each other. We come together here to share our love of the band and music, yet we rip each other incessantly. Let's all stop acting like a-holes to each other. Let's Be Friends!

Gee, I thought all of us are friends. Who else would take such abuse?

[drbeachboy]

I thought so, as well. Hey, I'm guilty of it too. I'm just going to try not to say things here that I wouldn't say directly to someone's face. It is very easy to say mean & nasty stuff when you're behind the Internet.

[bgas]

I thought so, as well. Hey, I'm guilty of it too. I'm just going to try not to say things here that I wouldn't say directly to someone's face. It is very easy to say mean & nasty stuff when you're behind the Internet.

It's not that hard to say it to a face. either; it's all in the delivery

[Iron Horse-Apples]

If this was directed to me booger fooger or whatever your name is then this is unacceptable. Don't even joke about killing someone. I find it extremely threatening and offensive.

Would this offend anyone else to be told you should be executed, or am I over reacting?

Are you... actually serious? Or do you just not spend a lot of time on the internet? A place where people say and do the things they can't in real life.

Now if he shows up at your house wielding some sort of weapon, you should feel threatened and offended.

Yes I am serious. I live my life by the simple rule of treating others as I wish to be treated. This is on the street, on the internet, in my dreams. Everywhere.

By your argument, where does it stop? Would it be acceptable for me to talk about murdering booger foogers family, or being rascist or homophobic?

And where are the moderators. Surely what he said constitutes a personal attack. Or do they only come out of the woodwork when someone says something mildly offensive about Mike Love?

[MBE]

Man just played the record. It is GOOD! Both songs never sounded so crisp and clear. Hardly any surface noise at all. Good pressing. I am excited now.

By the way the Beach Boys kick Brian's solo bands ass!

[buddhahat]

As far as Mark answering questions goes, presumably Capitol would not be best pleased if he was giving away information before this thing is released. Might he even have signed some confidentiality agreement?

I don't get why Capitol would care so much. It's not like these are strategic weapons secrets. It's just a 40+ year old Beach Boys project! And honestly, people who are going to buy The Smile Sesssions are going to buy it no matter what information is or isn't leaked. In fact, a few more leaks would generate additional excitement for the release!  The only way keeping everything secret could be working out in their favor is if they haven't found much of anything that isn't already booted, meaning that we're only going to get higher quality versions of what we already have. That's why the "Cabin Essence" single didn't impress me much. For example - an unheard alternative "Heroes and Villains" mix - even if it was from a scratchy acetate - would've been considerably more exciting.

Don't get me wrong, getting high quality versions of what we already have is a GREAT thing, but it's not the earth-shattering breakthrough all the silence has some people preparing for.

You're right, Smile is not sensitive govt information. However I remember signing a confidentially agreement when I had to do some artwork for an old Adobe Illustrator box so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Capitol/EMI want to totally control the information that seeps out before this is release.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Goodbye

[The Shift]

… Man the fellow who even dared suggest that the 45 mixes were just fold down mixes ought to be publically executed.

It was Andrew who first suggested that it may one channel of the 20/20 mix. And it was me who synched the tracks and discovered that it most probably was.

I do hope tp god you are not directing this execution threat to me! …

Let's assume it was AGD he was threatening and all get back to being friends?

Andrew's assassin training (see alt thread about him wiping out posters on the old Cab' board) means he's impervious to threat.

And let's all lay off the caffeine.

Peace.

[buddhahat]

Goodbye

Iron Horse, do not throw your apples out the cart! I enjoy your posts so it would be a shame if you left.

I doubt a message board exists where posters don't hurl the occasional mildly offensive comments at one another, and of all the BB related boards I've visited, on the whole I'd say people here seem to treat one another respectfully. I can't speak for Mooger Frooger, but his joke just seemed irreverant to me, rather than a personal attack. After all, you weren't the only one who suggested it was a fold down!

Let's direct our frustrations at the lack of info coming from Capitol .... or the news that Frank Holmes' artwork may be jettisoned in favour of a Joni Mitchell self portrait .... 

[MBE]

Man just played the record. It is GOOD! Both songs never sounded so crisp and clear. Hardly any surface noise at all. Good pressing. I am excited now.

By the way the Beach Boys kick Brian's solo bands ass!

Does nobody just enjoy the music for what it is period or is that just me?

[desmondo]

Yes come back Iron Horse

[Andrew G. Doe]

Goodbye

Iron Horse, do not throw your apples out the cart! I enjoy your posts so it would be a shame if you left.

I doubt a message board exists where posters don't hurl the occasional mildly offensive comments at one another, and of all the BB related boards I've visited, on the whole I'd say people here seem to treat one another respectfully. I can't speak for Mooger Frooger, but his joke just seemed irreverant to me, rather than a personal attack. After all, you weren't the only one who suggested it was a fold down!

Let's direct our frustrations at the lack of info coming from Capitol .... or the news that Frank Holmes' artwork may be jettisoned in favour of a Joni Mitchell self portrait ....  

Yeah, I threatened to strangle some guys kittens once.

It was kinda fun. They made great gloves.

[MrRobinsonsFather]

I know the discussion has been on cabinessence/wonderful but what's the mag like, any "new" photos?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I know the discussion has been on cabinessence/wonderful but what's the mag like, any "new" photos?

Four or five.

[MrRobinsonsFather]

cool  , thanks

[hypehat]

Yeah, Iron Horse! Come back. I did threaten to kill you last week and orphan your children and you didn't bat an eyelid, after all.... but it was all in good fun

[MBE]

Very badly writen articles. I can't believe the Todd Gold is even used anymore. In the US it's been out of print since 1992.

[bgas]

Goodbye

Waaaaahhhhhhhhh 
See ya!

[cutterschoice]

Being a minority with our hardcore love of The Beach Boys, you would think at the very least that we would be more friendly and courteous to each other. We come together here to share our love of the band and music, yet we rip each other incessantly. Let's all stop acting like a-holes to each other. Let's Be Friends!

Go hug a rainbow, hippy!!

[drbeachboy]

Being a minority with our hardcore love of The Beach Boys, you would think at the very least that we would be more friendly and courteous to each other. We come together here to share our love of the band and music, yet we rip each other incessantly. Let's all stop acting like a-holes to each other. Let's Be Friends!

Go hug a rainbow, hippy!!

and you a rose bush, mofo!

[bgas]

Being a minority with our hardcore love of The Beach Boys, you would think at the very least that we would be more friendly and courteous to each other. We come together here to share our love of the band and music, yet we rip each other incessantly. Let's all stop acting like a-holes to each other. Let's Be Friends!

Go hug a rainbow, hippy!!

Hey , if you find one to hug, give me a call, I need the pot of gold!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Very badly writen articles. I can't believe the Todd Gold is even used anymore. In the US it's been out of print since 1992.

Sloppy research. No excuse for it.

[The Heartical Don]

Very badly writen articles. I can't believe the Todd Gold is even used anymore. In the US it's been out of print since 1992.

Sloppy research. No excuse for it.

I wonder: the writer(s) in question get paid good money for their work. Yet many of us here could have done a better (sterling) job on the topic, and perhaps even under withholding all kinds of info (bleg-related) that would not have pleased the folks who permitted the free 45 to be released.

What is the world coming to?

[guitarfool2002]

Very badly writen articles. I can't believe the Todd Gold is even used anymore. In the US it's been out of print since 1992.

Sloppy research. No excuse for it.

I wonder: the writer(s) in question get paid good money for their work. Yet many of us here could have done a better (sterling) job on the topic, and perhaps even under withholding all kinds of info (bleg-related) that would not have pleased the folks who permitted the free 45 to be released.

What is the world coming to?

I raised the same issue either here or buried elsewhere in another Smile-related discussion: How does this continue to happen? Quite frankly, I can name a handful of people - some professionals, some semi-pros, some amateurs - who would bring a level of passion, accuracy, and sheer enjoyment to a Smile writing project set for publication. I guess it's the way the system works, but knowing just how passionate and how obsessive fans of *this particular music* can be (I'm guilty as charged...), you would assume the pertinent facts would be checked before publishing an article. No one is perfect, but damn a simple call or email for verification to one of at least 20 people on this board alone could have made a difference.

Then again, even a place like McDonalds gets sloppy every so often and forgets the onions on your cheeseburger...out of an honest mistake or not giving a damn, who knows.