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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 24, 2021, 12:49:21 PM
Is it the entire book inners that are upside down or just some pages?


The entire book inners are upside down, CDs are the right way up...  Undecided
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 22, 2021, 11:43:51 AM
Can anyone give me a hint on how to post a picture...?! Hope this does it...!!!

Anyone notice anything wrong here?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 30, 2021, 01:13:26 PM
   My 5CD set (Made In The EU) arrived yesterday. I would like to ask if anyone else has experienced a similar thing...

I should point out that I like the ‘archive’–type releases and historically have bought all of the boxed sets. HOWEVER it seems that I virtually always have  somekind of a problem with them. Not with the music itself, but the quality of manufacture!

Good Vibrations Box : Faulty disc (“In My Room“ demo) had to send it back... Cry

Pet Sounds Sessions : No problems... Smiley

US Singles Box : Not played it – still unopened and shrink wrapped! Cheesy

Smile Sessions Box : Faulty disc (“Surf’s Up“) had to send it back... Cry

Made In California Box : I too had that issue where the actual time of the tracks on one of the discs didn’t correspond to the tracking/playing of the actual disc, meaning one song cut off 2 or 3 seconds early and these 2 or 3 seconds appeared at the start of the next track. Remember?! Had to ask for a replacement disc... (I received a US disc incidently as a replacement, even though I had bought the EU version.)  Angry

So when I ordered Feel Flows I just knew something would be wrong with it even before I opened the package...! And sure enough...

Has anyone else had this problem with an EU Feel Flows : When I open the ‘book‘ the essay and the track listing is UPSIDE DOWN  Shocked Yes, my first page is an upside down #48!  Shocked The picture of the band on stage. But upside down! All the other pages continue all the way through to page #1 – ALL UPSIDE DOWN!! The CDs are then the right way up...

You know, for some people these sets cost a lot of money. This is such a basic mistake that it just shouldn’t happen. Does quality control not exist at the manufactures?

What do I do? Send it back??? Angry
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl on Stars and Stripes on: September 01, 2020, 12:57:27 PM
Here's another country BBoys cover : 'Warmth Of The Sun' - Nickle Creek.

Loved their first Sugar Hill Records CD (produced by Alison Krauss), but for me, they kind of lost their way after that...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7_BKMGX-VU


My S&S CD has a hype sticker which reads, "THE BEACH BOYS with their Favorite Top Country Stars"

 So that's Lorrie Morgan, James House, Jr. Brown, Doug Supernaw, Sawyer Brown, Toby Keith, Ricky Van Shelton, T. Graham Brown, Wille Nelson, Collin Raye, Kathy Troccali, Timothy B. Schmit... (plus Tammy Wynette, Rodney Crowell...)


Contrast that with the artists on the 'Common Thread' Eagles tribute CD : Travis Tritt, Little Texas, Clint Black, John Anderson, Alan Jackson, Suzy Bogguss, Vince Gill, Diamond Rio, Trisha Yearwood, Billy Dean, Tanya Tucker, Brookes & Dunn, Lorrie Morgan...

Or the (1st) Tribute To Bob Wills CD by Asleep At The Wheel... Chet Atkins, Vince Gill, Marty Stuart, George Strait, Garth Brookes, Lyle Lovatt, Dolly Parton, Johnny Rodriguez, Suzy Bogguss, Huey Lewis, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Brookes & Dunn, Riders In The Sky...

If I remember correctly, country music was enjoying a surge in popularity at the time, and that is probably the only reason The BBoys became associated with it... The majority of established country stars of the day were influenced by Hank, Lefty, George Jones, George Strait, (maybe Gram Parsons), Buck Owens et al... I am sure many would have admired the work The BBoys did, but as for The BBoys being a major influence on them? Obviously not so. And hence many of the 'real'  Top Country Stars were not actually waiting in line to contribute to such an album. Maybe it would have been a better project overall had The BBoys covered some country songs themselves as well, probably would have been more interesting...



5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl on Stars and Stripes on: August 31, 2020, 01:15:38 PM

Only really listen to "409" and "Long Tall Texan"...


I love Dwight, but not sure about this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md09xy8ffX8

(Not on Stars & Stripes)
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Murry Wilson- songwriter on: May 24, 2019, 11:33:17 AM

Am I missing the point? Huh

Surely those first to mind would be those Sunrays songs...?

'Car Party'  b/w 'Outta Gas' being the obvious ones. Probably would find more if I read the CD notes...
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: what did Glen Campbell do on stage with the BB's? on: September 03, 2018, 01:06:50 PM
Guitarfool2002 - Thanks for your posts here...

If only I had a tenth of your knowledge!

Any suggestions why the Fender Jaguar didn't actually 'catch on'?
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did Carl's criminal prosecution for draft evasion cause SMiLE's cancelation? on: June 09, 2018, 02:05:45 PM
Brian and Al were too old. Draft was for people born from 44-50. They were born 42.

Didn't Jan Berry get drafted...? He was born on April 3rd 1941...
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don't Worry Baby (Bonus Track) from Gettin' In Over My Head on: April 22, 2018, 01:15:14 PM
I don't have it but if I remember correctly, wasn't it a bonus track on the Japanese (CD) version of GIOMH...?
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dean Torrence influence on Brian Wilson on: March 09, 2018, 05:21:24 PM
My opinion is that they, together, created the California Sound. Or maybe I'll expand a little. Brian created the California Sound and Jan refined it.

The Beach Boys are the alltime greatest band in my opinion. Hands now. No one has ever, or will ever, equal them. But I do think The Beach Boys and Jan & Dean played an equal role in developing what we know as the California SOUND. Not lyrical content (surf, cars, girls, etc) but SOUND. Jan had been cutting records with Wrecking Crew, falsetto leads, and thick harmonies for years. Not saying that Brian copied Jan. But I think Brian took Four Freshman, Chuck Berry, Phil Spector, AND JAN BERRY/JAN&DEAN, when developing his own sound. Some more than others obviously. The Four Freshman would be the most impact influence I think.



Nice thread.

1. "My opinion is that they, together, created the California Sound. Or maybe I'll expand a little. Brian created the California Sound and Jan refined it."

 Aren't the building blocks of the so described California Sound as created by Brian the result of the blending together of Four Freshmen type vocal arrangements (Brian), Chuck Berry (Carl), Fender instruments (initially) (Carl & Dave), Do-wop vocal arrangements (Mike), and Phil Spector productions (Brian)...? - I would think that would be Do-wop records generally, not only specifically those recorded by J&A and  J&D? (Just look at the Party LP outtakes...)


In what way did Jan 'refine' it?


2.  "Jan had been cutting records with Wrecking Crew, falsetto leads, and thick harmonies for years" , - yes, and so had many other people...

Where did this J&D style actually come from? It's origins are surely in Do-Wop, wasn't that what J&D were doing initially... (Although personally I would certainly hesitate to describe their Dore material as possessing 'thick harmonies'.) Jan did not invent Do-Wop, he adopted the style from other popular records, just like Brian via Mike did...

Listen to Heart & Soul, the vocal arrangement is just a knock-off of I Wonder Why by Dion & The Belmonts... Especially the falsetto at the end.

The arrangement for Linda has been considered by some to be inspired by Sherry by The Four Seasons...



3. Regarding the claims of what Brian actually learnt from Jan with respect to the 'business' and studio techniques and so on, where does Brian's time spent with Usher sit with this...?







11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Concerts the Wilsons attended on: November 04, 2017, 11:37:56 AM
Bruce, members of The Flame (and possibly Carl) attended a Gene Vincent concert at the Brass Ring, Ventura Boulevard, Sherman Oaks, in LA (20th May 1970)

Picture is here :

http://rockabillynblues.blogspot.cz/2014/04/great-vintage-shot-with-gene-vincent.html



12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Briarstem: A Memoir on: August 31, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
The joke was on our entire entourage, of course, as the supposed “nuns” were in fact extras from the Elvis movie “Change of Habit,”

I've actually got a copy of this somewhere on an old VHS, as Elvis films go, it's not one of his worst. Few people know that Al was actually offered a small part in this, however he scuppered the audition when he lost his balance and fell off his box. I recall that he wasn't too disappointed though, expressing the opinion that he just didn't possess the necessary acting skills to portray a rhythm guitarist in Elvis' backing band and make it look convincing. I believe the box went on to have a quite successful movie career...

Mike wasn't too pleased at this time given as Al's name was plastered throughout the trade mags of the day, so in a blatent attempt at one-upmanship, at a lavish ceremony Mike donated his very first hat to The Smithsonian. It was gratefully received too, especially by Joe the singing janitor. But we all know The Beach Boys and sure enough everything was not as it appeared. The hat was eventually proven to be some cheap replica knocked up by some sweat-shop in Bangladesh. This created a huge dilema for Capitol Records as they had already manufactured 419,000 hats for promotional purposes, all of which ended up in a dumpster. What happened to the original hat remained something of a mystery until it turned up years later in the collection of a Beach Boy fan, prompting a Police investigation. No charges were brought although the Police Department did issue a statement, quoting a Mr. B. Gas, who claimed that he had never seen said item before and hadn't the slightest notion of how it got there...
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Briarstem: A Memoir on: August 30, 2016, 07:59:17 AM
This is one book I'm looking forward to!

If only to revisit that airport lounge incident, that card game when I think it was Van Dyke who led with a trump and all hell broke loose...

Can't wait me...
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston - Ritchie Valens on: August 30, 2016, 07:53:51 AM
Anybody know if Bruce ever backed up Eddie Cochran...?
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: March 28, 2016, 12:49:24 AM
Not heard about Brian's involvement in this single Colpix 721 by Shelly Fabares before...

Football Season's Over / He Don't Love Me...

Refer to comments as in the link... Brian produced the track for the b-side, Jan Berry produced the vocals...?!

Marilyn confirmed the Honey sing back up...? Brian had a falling out with Lou Adler...?

Can anyone add any comments to this...?


http://www.45cat.com/45_list_view_record.php?li=1468
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Party unplugged and uncovered thats not on Unsurpassed Master 10 on: December 09, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
HULLY GULLY - there's an incredible out-take with plenty of riffing and improve, with the band singing "Peanut... peanut butter" in place of the regular chorus, which is great musically, and absolutely hilarious. 

For those not in the know, "Peanut Butter" was a real song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJaw61RfTzQ


 The "Come on take a lesson now" lyrics from 'Peanut Butter' Brian also sings in the song The Baker Man... Interesting how everything ties in together...
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Chopsticks Boogie on: August 08, 2015, 11:50:33 AM

Well, let's not put it to bed just yet!!

Anyone interested in hearing the original Czech lyrics can find it here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJ6jkJh5ds

zdravím z České republiky  Grin


Hmm that's a different melody for "Stodola Pumpa" than this one (which is the Good Humor truck melody):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB_hOvS9-9Y

Lee

There are several variations... Not sure about having a traditional CZECH folk song with ENGLISH lyrics though! Shocked
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Chopsticks Boogie on: August 07, 2015, 01:14:04 PM
[The latter is understandable because, as has been pointed out before, both "Come and Get It" and "The Rocking Surfer" are based on the melody played by Good Humor ice cream trucks, which is a traditional Czech folk song called "Stodola Pumpa."


Well, let's not put it to bed just yet!!

Anyone interested in hearing the original Czech lyrics can find it here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJ6jkJh5ds

zdravím z České republiky  Grin

19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's Rock 'n Roll Tribute Album? on: July 09, 2015, 12:17:06 PM

Brian should do a medley of "Fanny Mae" and "Help Me Rhonda" with Dick Dale...
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if- instead of the Lil Deuce Couple LP.. on: April 26, 2015, 12:54:55 PM
Always loved LDC, though felt it ought to have had another car song rather than Be True, which holds a place similar to Barbara Ann in my affections...

David Marks suggested his song 'Kustom Kar Show' for the LP.

Brian knocked it back.

(It was later released by Dave & The Marksmen.)
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Dion rocks Las Vegas on: April 26, 2015, 12:50:21 PM

Dion was my first 'rock & roll' interest, followed quickly by Gene Vincent.

Not old enough to remember the 50s or much of the 60s, my record collecting days started in the late 70s / early 80s by picking up a Dion (&The Belmonts) compilation LP.

As a young boy I played that lp over a million times and taught myself how to sing!! I still remember every word of every song even now! There is a new Dion Live CD released in the UK on ACE records if anyone is interested. If not, check out this interview, it's almost one hour but it is well worth it... :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rh3RkaPqa0&list=PLi-ECHzqsMFhV27agGKG9ktJMmwtgs9QL
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David Dalton's \ on: March 14, 2014, 01:54:22 PM
Who are the two guys standing in the first pictures? And of the two, which one is Mo Ostin?

The person (appearing in both 'signing' photos) with glasses and full beard is, according to the Gaines book, Nick Grillo...

I assume the other person is Mo Ostin.....?


OK, slightly OT...

Anyone know if there is a picture of Jon Parks (Dennis' friend and possibly one time road manager) anywhere?

"No calls from Korthoff, Parks or Grillo..."
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David Dalton's \ on: March 08, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
Who are the two guys standing in the first pictures? And of the two, which one is Mo Ostin?

The person (appearing in both 'signing' photos) with glasses and full beard is, according to the Gaines book, Nick Grillo...

I assume the other person is Mo Ostin.....?
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs about The Beach Boys, individually or collectively on: September 19, 2013, 11:48:18 PM

Others:

“The west coast started surfin’, with The Beach Boys band, Jan & Dean and The Surfaris spread the sound throughout the land”

‘The Story Of The Rockers’ by Gene Vincent (Playground P100) 1968 written by Jim Pewter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZ90RYpjaw

and

for those of us who love those instrumentals, (where are you Louie?), here’s a tribute to the sandbox called ‘Brian’s Beached Piano‘ by Dave Wronski & Slacktone from the album ‘Into The Blue Sparkle’ (Goboy 1002) 2000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbWFzD1qvzs





here’s a tutorial… Great sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6bvPxWJUK0
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs about The Beach Boys, individually or collectively on: September 19, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
one more,

The Scavenger’ by Gary Paxton,  (Garpax 44177) 1963

FLICK FORWARD TO 3:08 MINUTES FOR THIS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3yBPMIfXU

“I shut down The Beach Boys in their 409…”

Notice in the later cover by Capitol labelmate Dick Dale,  the lyrics were changed to

“I shut down the hodads in their 409…”

Quite right too.
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