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226  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: In The Key Of Disney on: August 20, 2011, 12:32:30 AM
Been a tough 23 years, huh?
Just on the BW front.
It's just the voice is SOOOO not good (in a bad way, not not good like Randy Newman which IS actually good) and the music seems really indie-popped out (also, obviously, not good) that I don't really even hear ANY BW element that I recognize or think sounds good.
In my mind I picture the band going in, recording some mid-sixties-style-yet-slightly-modern sounding tracks, working up some backing vocals and then Melinda carts BW in and props him in front of a music stand while the engineers cringe knowingly to one another and whisper "we'll fix it in the mix" while Jeff jots down all the places he's going to have to cover for BW's leads with his own double-tracked co-lead.
And that's the last FOUR albums (not including TLOS which BW supposedly had a hand in writing at least)

Plus, why'd it have to be Disney!? Why not Spector or Phil Collins or ANYbody that Brian has actually expressed some liking towards? I mean, I know why it had to be Disney, but come on man!


227  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: In The Key Of Disney on: August 19, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
UUGGHH. I've never been a Disney fan, but this stuff is even worse than I imagined. I think, when it comes right down to it, the only BW solo record I can stand is BW '88. Year after year I keep looking forward to the next new album, and each time it feels less and less like something BW had any hand in. The quirkiness seems forced but so does the BW-like music. Oh hell, I'm sure I'll buy it 'cos I love the man, but just like everything from Sweet Insanity on, it's gonna sit on the shelf filling in its place in the complete recorded works of BW area, with only a couple trips to the cd player.
But if you like it, this is awesome news and you must be psyched!
228  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: N I R V A N A on: August 15, 2011, 12:00:19 AM
I definitely loved Nirvana in the early nineties until he killed himself (or whatever) but to compare them to the BB is way out there, man.
First of all, the only one of Nirvana's recordings that doesn't sound painfully dated is Bleach, and maybe some of the singles stuff from whatever that comp was called. I mean DATED. Bad, super selfconcious art rock like In Utero ,and really everything from that Jesus Lizard single on, sound like a bad time to me. And if you can sit through the horrible production on Nevermind and compare that to ANY brian-produced BB album (including Love You) then, my friend, we live in strange times indeed.
Sounds like you are more into the myth of Kurt Cobain, whatever that has turned into, than the deliberately provocative twenty-something guy who would complain about Rolling Stone magazine, in a Rolling Stone article, with HIM on the cover! A confused guy, for sure, with some good songs but neither the brains nor the foresight to see past himself and his 'problems' .
I've known a lot of guys like that, and there was nothing cool about their flame-out.
Anyway, Beach Boys rule!
229  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: AGD on: August 14, 2011, 08:43:17 AM
Maybe we can all pitch in and get the poor man a MAC already...
230  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Aeijtzsche's Annual Assortment of potentially unsolvable BB mysteries. on: August 04, 2011, 10:07:39 PM


That Star-spangled banner lick is also a lingering question--if you listen to the complete session, that is repeatedly played between takes, and I wonder if it references some other song.


Isn't that part just the bridge/pre-chorus slowed down thing that the guitars (or whatever) play?
231  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: August 04, 2011, 08:13:33 AM
Ok, here's a dumb question. Why is it that when Brian grew a beard in 1967 it was light brown, but when he grew a beard a decade later, it was black?
I think his beard has always been a little reddish-brown, kinda like his hair once was.
232  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: July 20, 2011, 07:09:17 AM
So I just got my Mojo 60s in the mail, and for all the talk about Mike's mystery sharp note in the Cabinessence tag, I don't think I've heard anyone mention that it's missing Carl's second lead vocal overdub.  I wonder what that's all about. (Maybe that's Linett's compromise for post-mid-67 touch-ups.. we only get half of them Smiley)
Carl's 'second lead vocal overdub' was actually an electronic effect, not an actual doubled-lead, and was very crappy sounding to boot. Wisely it has been removed...
233  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: July 15, 2011, 08:06:41 AM
Yea Yea. Zany. As in: beer addicts, and watching the Sommermärchen of the Frauenfußball in Public Viewing spots all day long. I know what Germans are like.

Look like you're quite an expert with Umlauts and extra character "ß" and the Public Viewing thing. Do you live here? Replace "beer addicts" with "beer gardens" and I'm 100% with you!  angel

 LOL I wrote 'addicts' specifically to draw a reply from you. It worked! I am Dutch but was raised with German TV (due to my Dad's preferences). So I know John Wayne's voice only in German: 'Zieh' Deine Knarre Und Schieß', Du Hurensohn!'
German Beer Gardens are great... and I'll do a weekend of Berlin later this year.

So would you agree about the cooled off football enemyship?  Cool

And one several German John Wayne voices is better that the original I think!  Cheesy

Oh yes, in soccer we're not that inimical any more. Remeber when Rijkaard spit Völler in the face? I think in the years '88-'92 it was at its worst. Bu IMHO, between 1974 and 1988 there wasn't really some feud going on. Most of that time the Germans were a lot better, and only in 1988 Holland managed to get onto the same level, and beat them in the EC. Now, that was an evening...


....BORING....
234  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Cool new Hawthorne video tour/interview with David Marks on: July 12, 2011, 06:29:06 PM
Great video. I love how normal and approachable David seems, especially considering how very strange the rest rest of these fellows are these days. What a great guy to spend an afternoon with.
235  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Great 60's 'Girl Group' Poll on: July 11, 2011, 09:11:51 PM
Shangi-las for sure. Check this feces out...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFAV75uOk6Y&feature=related
and just in case you need more proof...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM9orBt3ZWY&feature=related
236  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MOJO Special Spolier on: July 08, 2011, 07:30:44 AM

Sir, don't forget you are living in a world where people are taught property rights do not matter and that everyone should somehow benefit from someone else's work without lifting a finger and that...well, you get the idea.

Where is this taught, exactly?
School, TV, every single politician ever.
237  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are there any pictures of Bruce Johnston with a moustache? on: July 04, 2011, 07:46:43 PM
Ahh yes, independence day. The day we (and by we I mean a few dozen white politicians who have all been dead for hundreds of years) declared independence from mean old Britain (meaning some long dead white politicians) so that everyone (meaning white land-owners) could be free to express themselves however they saw fit (meaning making fun of Bruce Johnston by giving him a Hitler head). I love that day!

How dare you call me a white land-owner, I'm actually a black sheep-farmer
Damn! I guess you somehow slipped through the cracks! Grin
238  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are there any pictures of Bruce Johnston with a moustache? on: July 04, 2011, 10:50:41 AM
I judge by what you do. You may be a terrific person and I truly hope that you are. This was poor taste and the only thing that I am judging. You think Bruce would appreciate what you did? Also, today is Independence Day here in the U.S.. We, as well as Great Britain paid a huge price in lives lost or wounded fighting against what Hitler stood for, not to mention all who died in the concentration camps. I guess some of us see Hitler as heinous and not a comic character.
Ahh yes, independence day. The day we (and by we I mean a few dozen white politicians who have all been dead for hundreds of years) declared independence from mean old Britain (meaning some long dead white politicians) so that everyone (meaning white land-owners) could be free to express themselves however they saw fit (meaning making fun of Bruce Johnston by giving him a Hitler head). I love that day!
239  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: What Is Your Favorite Soundtrack? on: June 28, 2011, 07:22:45 PM
Taxi Driver by Bernhard Hermann (sp?). He's the guy that did all those hitchcock films, but this is his best (and last. he died the night he finished recording it) at least for me.  I think I like it 'cos it sort of reminds me of Smile with it's weird percussion and recurring theme(s). Check it out if you haven't yet.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1UBfv7mh_s&feature=related
240  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MOJO Special Spolier on: June 24, 2011, 10:26:57 PM

Why is it that everyone feels they deserve to get things for free?

Why does Mojo get to profit from someone else's creativity is, I think, a question is a lot harder to find a convincing answer for.

Hmm. Let's see, here'e three: 
They've invested the time and $$ to run their business, and they're paying for the right to use that creativity; 
They're the ones that put out this issue that includes the , somewhat, free 45.
They pay people to write the articles in their mag( good or bad)

Why do people feel they deserve to sponge off the people that have spent the $$ to buy the mag? ( some people don't mind sharing, obviously)
I'll be glad to provide you my snail address, if you'll send me everything you own, that I desire to have. Plese make a list of everything you have, so I'll know what to ask for.
Sir, don't forget you are living in a world where people are taught property rights do not matter and that everyone should somehow benefit from someone else's work without lifting a finger and that...well, you get the idea. Garbage in garbage out.
241  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Party vs Smiley Smile on: June 21, 2011, 07:39:57 AM
It definitely seems like a stop-gap album rushed out before the 'real' one could be finished and, along with the extremely casual atmosphere, could easily have been intended as the Party followup. Since I'm not over at Andrew's site investigating this  I can't say for sure (dates are probably off), but maybe the Heider sessions, beyond being re-records of the Hawaii material, could've been intended as the more familiar parts (Surfer Girl, Rhonda) of that second Party album that eventually became SS. Either way, it seems clear that the BB were still intending to release SMiLe, or some other 'bigger' album, and that SS was just a contract thing (a great stoned-soul contract thing, but still). 67 must have been a crazy frickin' year for those guys!
242  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: David Leaf - anybody here worked with him? on: June 16, 2011, 08:47:37 PM
The one time I spoke to him after a show in Seattle in 99 or 2000 he was pretty short with me. I asked him why he wasn't writing the liner notes for the Brothers years re-releases and he said "ask Capitol" and turned and walked away. But Jeff Foskett jumped right in and saved the day by talking to me and my pal for a good half hour before dinner and asking what we loved about the show and what songs we'd have liked to hear (Please Let Me Wonder, I said) etc. But yeah, Leaf seemed like a real Dick to me.
243  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MOJO Special Spolier on: June 12, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
I too would enjoy a PM from anyone who wouldn't mind...

BTW, if this is a new mono mix of CE I'm gonna crap myself!
244  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New song by James Clarke Five: homage to BB Love You? Or is it MIU? You decide! on: June 05, 2011, 06:17:25 PM
pretty good. the post-ironic-boredom doesn't quite overtake the the fun of the song, which is more than i can say for most pop bands/guys these days. keep it up.
245  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So what do we know is in the Smile Box set ?? on: June 05, 2011, 07:28:00 AM
It's a pity that if one wants the 4 CDs you also have to have the LPs. I don't want the LPs because I don't have a record player,
Dear sir,
 Buy a record player. Do you enjoy listening to music with amazing fidelity and wonderful dynamic range? Buy a record player. If only for the aesthetics of holding a big slab-o-vinyl with large artwork to peruse you should have one. They don't cost much and the format has been around for, like, a hundred years unlike whatever crummy format you must have, and seems unlikely to go away anytime soon. Seriously, get one.
246  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The \ on: June 02, 2011, 11:12:13 PM
prohibition of any kind is always, everywhere a failure, in every way, for everyone involved (not including those things covered in the non-aggression principal).
247  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Byrds Live? on: June 02, 2011, 10:55:44 PM
My understanding is the original byrds line-up, with the exception of Jim and Gene (Clark), were terrible live, and it wasn't until gene parsons and clarence white joined that their live shows became listenable. Check out the first record of Untitled to hear that line-up really rock.
248  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: June 01, 2011, 11:03:38 PM
Why did they edit the outro to Surfer Moon on the GV box set? On Surfer Girl, there's a 6-bar "ABA" ending, but they pasted an extra 2 bars in the box set to make it AABA.
box set=brian's mono mix
SG cd= chuck's stereo mix
249  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Beach Boy clothing on: May 30, 2011, 08:37:39 AM
I'd try American Apparel for the striped tees, ebay for the sta-prest Levis and any Vans retailer for the sneakers.
250  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian has signed off on Smile Sessions...... on: May 26, 2011, 08:37:14 PM
I'm pretty sure with this Mojo magazine coming June 15th, the news is going to start rolling out soon after that

Has this not been the worst wait ever
It was worse in 96 or 97 or whenever when I read in Rolling Stone that the box was coming out (with a street date) and then...nothing. at least now there are a few dribs and drabs to grab onto.
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