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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Future 50 year/copyright releases
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on: December 15, 2015, 12:28:50 PM
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It's fascinating to hear one after the other. I listened to the first Chicago show... it's like they just rolled into town... hurried set-up... get in and out, end of story... but loose and fun.
I listened to a mono mix (from vinyl) of Jan & Dean's Command Performance, as a bridge between the two BB shows... and a comparison between stage styles.
The second night sounds like they worked hard to get a good show... better song order for the set list... more polished. I enjoyed the addition of 409 and In My Room. Adding some songs (even if repeated from BBConcert) to have in the can in case a live album got mixed. And Papa Oom Mow Mow worked great as an encore.
I thought the instrumental backing for Please Let Me Wonder worked better the first night... but the vocals are better the second night. All in all, fascinating. I remember driving past the Arie Crown at McCormick Place, as a kid, in 1965.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Party unplugged and uncovered thats not on Unsurpassed Master 10
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on: December 08, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
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<Probably all it would take would be someone giving me one good reason to buy the set, and I would crumble.>
Apart from the chatter, which is delightful (there are a number of moments where Carl is clearly in charge... at one point asking for icewater in a bucket due to the pain in his hands from playing... another when Brian is pushing him... and Carl warns him off) and the comedy and sarcasm, music unreleased highlights, for me, make this a must have: BLOWIN' IN THE WIND - one of Al Jardine's finest lead vocals... sung straight... beautiful HULLY GULLY - there's an incredible out-take with plenty of riffing and improve, with the band singing "Peanut... peanut butter" in place of the regular chorus, which is great musically, and absolutely hilarious. Reminds me of classic Jan & Dean schtick like "Schlock Rod pts 1&2." SATISFACTION - infectious because these guys are big fans of the Stones... THEY are enjoying doing this TELL ME WHY - great vocal from Carl... again, this is a wonderful moment behind the curtain... a "genuine" party moment because they absolutely love the Beatles. CALIFORNIA GIRLS - proves why they were at the peak of their powers. A wonderful, impromptu, mostly straight unplugged full version of the hit. SHE BELONGS TO ME / THE ARTIST (LAUGHT AT ME). Funny Mike stuff... the initial thought is that this is Mike doing a bad Dylan impersonation, until you realize he's doing a parody of Sono Bono's bad Dylan impersonation in "Laugh at Me" (check Sonny's original out on You Tube!). FOOLING AROUND / HANG ON SLOOPY, et. al) - A medley of various hits of the time all using the same chord progression. Interesting to note it begins with Dino, Desi & Billy's "I'm A Fool" and Wayne Fontana & the Mindbenders' "Game of Love" (both uncredited). ONE KISS LED TO ANOTHER and SMOKEY JOE'S CAFE are fun... interesting to compare to the Beach tapes from 1989/Endless Summer.
So I found lots to enjoy in this set.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SPECTRUM 1980 :: A new study-video
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on: December 02, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
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Mr. Desper - I love this show; a friend sent me a stereo cassette of the radio broadcast back in the summer of 1980. Through the years, I've thought the mix was amazing for a live show; your video explains some of the rough spots.
One thing I've been curious about since I first heard it. To me, it has always sounded like Bruce blows out his high voice - badly, to the point of damage - singing bg vocals on this song. Any recollections about that?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lucy Jones by Brian Wilson and Stephen Kalinich
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on: November 10, 2015, 01:40:23 PM
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I'm enjoying this as well... goofy, to be sure (melody reminds me a little bit of Bony Moronie). Would have been an interesting album in 75... California Feelin' It's Ok Good Timin' River Song Back Home Rollin Up To Heaven Glow Crescent Glow Rainbows Come Go With Me Battle Hymn of the Republic Child of Winter Lucy Jones In the Back of My Mind Come to the Sunshine
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: November 10, 2015, 12:24:09 PM
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<<THe project was fully realised: a master was prepared (6/27/77) and delivered to Reprise, who rejected it.>>
You're absolutely right, Andrew. I miss-stated my premise. "Fully realized" is just pure speculation, or wishful thinking, on my part as to how those songs might have been expanded with additional group vocals, instrumentation, etc., into something less demo-like. But that is, of course, fantasy; what might have been.
As you noted, at the end of the day, the master delivered to Reprise was the one obviously intended for release.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Henry Rollins on Glen Campbell Documentary
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on: November 09, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
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<<Not to mention Henry wrote an opinion piece celebrating SMiLE upon its release a few years back.>>
Henry is a big Beach Boys/Brian Wilson fan. At a Bel-Air event celebrating Brian's then upcoming Kennedy Center honors, thanks to the generosity of Alan Boyd, I got to direct a video shoot interviewing various attendees, and of the subsequent presentation/dinner/mini concert. Taking a breather, I got into a conversation with Henry about the music. In particular, he was a huge fan of the material Brian did between 1976-78... all of the 15 Big Ones, Love You, Adult Child, MIU, etc. stuff. Very nice guy.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: November 09, 2015, 10:36:09 AM
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Very entertaining summation of this album, with some interesting speculation about what certain tracks (Lines, among them) might have sounded like had the project actually been fully realized.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Whose idea was it to discofy \
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on: November 04, 2015, 07:14:50 AM
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I had heard in early 1979 there was some brief talk among band members back in the Spring of 1979 to possibly do a disco version of Roller Skating Child... issued possibly as an extended live single... but it never went anywhere. I am assuming, after the HCTN backlash, that plan went on hold... though it might have been the perfect choice.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is THE most underrated Brian Wilson song?
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on: November 03, 2015, 07:16:18 AM
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<<I enjoy Shawn Cassidy's version but I absolutely love the Spring version. Would have been great to hear a BB version, but I really can't envision any recording of this song sounding better than that done by the Rovell sisters (all three in this case).>>
I have to give the Michael Lloyd/Cassidy version the edge... more developed production (the Spring version has always sounded like a demo to me, rushed and sparse ala Love You)... and the Cassidy version has a great middle 8 that gets repeated twice. The Spring version has a completely different and very weak bridge. Better tag on the Cassidy version as well.
I spoke at some length with Michael Lloyd about this one. He said he really tried hard to do Brian's sound... but studio time limitations kept him from making it as big a production as he wanted.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
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on: October 27, 2015, 08:09:12 AM
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<<And I'm pretty sure Billy Hinsche on harmonica.>>
The man himself confirmed that to me... on Mountain of Love.
And flash forward 35 years to 2000... the Carl Wilson foundation Beach Party... at the singalong during Mountain of Love, Billy surprised everybody (and Jeff Foskett) when he whipped out his harmonica and reprised that solo.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: October 22, 2015, 04:36:49 PM
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I had read somewhere (I think in ESQ's excellent LA LIGHT issue) that Full Sail was written by Carl and Geoffrey Cushing-Murray one day while out on Dennis' boat. And that Geoffrey sings on Full Sail, during the middle 8 ("...adventures on the high seas...")
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
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on: October 22, 2015, 12:51:23 PM
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<<no it's Dean Torrence, reading from a prepared script so there's no need for him to remember an obscure reference. the voice is unmistakeable from hearing him shoot the breeze on various Jan & Dean compilations>>
Having been acquainted with Dean since 1977, I can tell you this is not Dean, in any way, shape or form. It's Carl Wilson, adding a bit of nasality to his voice, in the spirit of the comedy of the moment. End of story.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The tradeoff . . . IF ONLY > > >
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on: October 07, 2015, 03:33:26 PM
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<<At that time neither 'group' would have wanted to backtack into the by-gone era. It would have been all about QUALITY. [and talent]>>
I may have read it wrong but I don't think the question was what they would have wanted to play - but what we would have wanted to hear.
Yes It Is has some of the most beautiful harmonies the Beatles ever cut - with some spectacular "odd" chord changes ala Warmth of the Sun. A Beach Boys rendition of this would have been spectacular.
And as the Beatles were guitar-based, with wonderful riffs abounding, I would have loved to hear their take on Dance Dance Dance... as the instrumentation lends itself to a Beatles interpretation...
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