the Miles Davis song is "Here Come de Honey Man" a Gershwin tune from his Porgy & Bess album: https://youtu.be/q8gZ7QBGyMI

one of several dubbed cassette SMiLE boots I owned did indeed include the Miles song and I had no reason to believe it wasn't part of the sessions, til I heard P&B a few years later.

it's a short repetitive piece, dreamy and lovely, so it does kind of fit but I'd be interested to know how it ever got included on a SMiLE boot.

even Mike himself pretends like that stuff doesn't exist.

I've seen speculation that a Love You/Adult Child box set would sell poorly, but a Mike Love deluxe reissue would do exponentially worse

"It just hurts to look at him!"

what an awful thing for that news lady to say about Brian, jeez.

first time seeing this graphic today. MUCH BETTER

Everybody agrees that ML penned the words to California Girls. Did he really write everything he got his name added to in the '94 lawsuit?  I'm skeptical.

good question and as guitarfool pointed out, Mike's original claim of 70 co-writes ultimately became just 35. obviously some songs are much more successful than others which I'm sure is why getting his name on Wouldn't It Be Nice and a few others was so important to him.


I've been meaning to chime in about the documentary, which I haven't yet...
I was prepared to hate the thing but I really didn't. obviously the decision was made to make something well under 2 hours and focus on the early years. I'm sure it's been watched by a lot more people due to the shorter length and I imagine the catalog has recieved a significant bump as a result. this doc also did a fine job of portraying the Beach Boys and Beatles as equals, at least for a time, which is important to public perception. overall I really enjoyed it in spite of myself. it's visually fabulous compared to Endless Harmony which looks more like a Behind The Music episode. lots of footage, photos, and quotes I hadn't seen before. it was sad how little we got to hear from current-day Brian but the new interviews (with Al and Dave especially) are very nice.

sure I'm disappointed by what wasn't included, mainly the panning of everything after GV.
it made a real point of saying how unhip they had become by the late 60s but failed to mention how much respect they regained in the early 70s from the likes of RollingStone (who helped spread the "unhip" sentiment in the first place) and folks like Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead for the quality of their live performances not to mention experimental albums and the hit Sail On Sailor which REALLY should've been included. I do appreciate the gritty live version of Darlin they used to end the film, great tribute to Carl and a Wild Honey classic.

I also think the director was slyly/slightly critical of Mike throughout. like when they talk about him adopting the "lead singer" persona early in the band's career then cut to some of the most obnoxious footage of him on Long Tall Texan. or when they discuss Brian spending 3 months on Good Vibrations in various studios while Mike couldn't be bothered to come up with any lyrics until the day of the vocal sessions, and follow that with Mike complaining he wasn't also labeled a genius for its success (after earlier pointing out that Brian made hits regardless of the lyricist). as in other documentaries, Mike is his own worst enemy. then he wonders why people have such a negative opinion of him. in Endless Harmony it was, "the Beach Boys meant so much to so many because of the positivity... and that was ME!" and in this one it's "I should've been called a genius too!"


I do believe we'll get a sprawling 6+ hour documentary one day that will be exhaustive and much more complete. hopefully it won't be another 25 years from now

the director also used Kokomo as a tribute to Jimmy Buffett who was one of his best friends. the words 'For Jimmy' appear just as the opening lyric plays: "Off the Florida Keys..."

not sure if this is the Dionne Warwick footage you mentioned but it's great: https://youtu.be/iBUDjZxC4co

you can like the song and the singer but it still has no place on a Beach Boys 60th anniversary documentary soundtrack. smfh

Everybody seems in polite zombie mode promoting this thing. I watched one of the press junket interviews with Al, and he clearly is trying to not explicitly just be extra cynical and grumpy about the doc, but he's sitting there at 81 years old and being asked "What's your favorite Beach Boys song?" And he's got nothing. Like, he can barely muster a few obvious titles. I'm not saying he can't name them all. He'll talk about "Santa Ana Winds" and "Holland" if you ask him. But this whole thing is a bit like the Twilight Zone. There's a weird absurdity to it that's fascinating for not all the right reasons.

Al seems a little annoyed by much of the proceedings not to mention the finished product itself, and I feel him.
to be fair: "What's your favorite Beach Boys song?" is such a lame question, but he comes right out with California Girls and explains why (at 1:45 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG3dub9aunM)

of course I'm looking forward to watching but many aspects, from the art they chose to the non-BBs track on the soundtrack, are just awful moves in my opinion.

Al Jardine spills the beans again:

“There is some really wonderful footage of our performing,” Jardine said. “But unfortunately, Carl and Dennis are gone, so you don’t have their point of view. You have the narrative, according to Mike Love, and you have me in there somewhere in between, going, uh-hmm, sure. The truth is, we didn’t have enough content the way I would have liked to have done it. The producer did what he could, with what he had.”

https://www.mauinews.com/news/local-news/2024/05/beach-boys-cofounder-reflects-on-career-future/

recent upload I just discovered today, seems legit but why has it never been heard before?

https://youtu.be/KGLBrE2MtMk

sail on Jimmy

he put Sail On Sailor on an album and covered it live:
https://youtu.be/4WSXCUZjPLA?si=kmll97QD74owyrOY

it's currently streaming at cbs.com
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/Xn3CwiS3o_LdViEd6IQ6tOGMDjjdnwco/

watching now for better or worse 
it's currently streaming at cbs.com
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/Xn3CwiS3o_LdViEd6IQ6tOGMDjjdnwco/

it's pretty funny to see anyone knocking Paul's 80-year old voice on a Brian Wilson message board. sure it ain't what it used to be but I caught Paul on his tour last summer and he gave an incredible performance, all things considered. try singing I've Got A Feeling at any age, let alone 80. not to mention the 35 other songs he did that night. Paul and Brian are like night and day as far as onstage charisma and abilities... he had an entire stadium in the palm of his hand.

Paul is exactly the guest we should want to see on a Beach Boys tribute, although it doesn't seem likely. and the idea of him showing up and doing Hey Jude or Let It Be is laughable, though Brian has given Let It Be the same type of praise that Paul gives God Only Knows.

I'm not too excited about any of the names we've been given, and some are downright headscratchers. but Brandi Carlile is definitely pretty huge these days and deserves most of the credit for getting Joni Mitchell to perform again last year... a highly celebrated event with a good amount of star power.

that's a Sadowsky. Walter Becker of Steely Dan played Sadowskys and had his own signature model guitar

surprised to see Tandym Almer on so many songs.

and is that Michael Clarke of the Byrds drumming on Rooftop Harry??

Speaking of publicity, am I wrong or is there less hype about "Sail on Sailor" than for "Feel flows"? I seem to remember that the latter got more press but maybe I'm misremembering or my impression was totally wrong.

we also had 171 pages discussing Feel Flows, and the topic is still pinned at the top for some reason. we're up to 10 pages for SOS.

what gives?

a new 30-second longer mix is included in SOS, track 7 disc 6

it adds a short "intro" of radio noise,
a false start and instrumental portion on Back In Bed,
the "wind" sound effect (what is that anyway?) intros I'm The Pied Piper rather than Radio Kingdom,
and Magic Transistor Radio adds an instrumental portion also

what a song.

it definitely sounds like mandolin, or mando-guitar like Barney Kessell sometimes used. could it have been Barney? hard to say if I'm hearing more than one.
some serious drumming on this track too!

I don't have any info on the session but the Feel Flows liners say:

Produced by Murry Wilson & Rick Henn
Basic track recorded June 29, 1971 at Sunset Sound

Rick would be the man to ask  

here's the info given for both songs 

Holland home recording - previously unreleased
lead vocal: Brian
recorded Summer 1972 at Brian Wilson's home in Laren Netherlands

what a douchebag.

super creepy. good work fellas

CD 1
CARL AND THE PASSIONS – “SO TOUGH”

1. You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
2. Here She Comes
3. He Come Down
4. Marcella
5. Hold On Dear Brother
6. Make It Good
7. All This Is That
8. Cuddle Up

CARL AND THE PASSIONS – “SO TOUGH” BONUS TRACKS (Previously Unreleased)

9. The Road Not Taken (demo – previously unreleased)
10. All This Is That (a Cappella mix – previously unreleased)
11. He Come Down (2022 mix – previously unreleased)
12. You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (track and backing vocals)
13. Marcella (a Cappella mix – previously unreleased)
14. Make It Good (alternate mix with Intro – previously unreleased)
15. Cuddle Up (alternate mix – previously unreleased)
16. Carl and the Passions /Pet Sounds Promo (1972)


CD 2
HOLLAND

1. Sail On Sailor
2. Steamboat
3. California Saga – Big Sur
4. California Saga – The Beaks Of Eagles
5. California Saga – California
6. The Trader
7. Leaving This Town
8. Only With You
9. Funky Pretty

MOUNT VERNON AND FAIRWAY (A FAIRYTALE)
By Brian Wilson
(Please listen in the dark)

10. Mount Vernon And Fairway Theme
11. I’m The Pied Piper – Instrumental
12. Better Get Back In Bed
13. Magic Transistor Radio
14. I’m The Pied Piper
15. Radio King Dom

HOLLAND BONUS TRACKS (Previously Unreleased)

16. We Got Love (2022 mix – previously unreleased)
17. Hard Time (previously unreleased)
18. Carry Me Home (previously unreleased)
19. California Saga – The Beaks Of Eagles (1973 single mix – previously unreleased)
20. California Saga – California (1973 single mix)
21. Sail On Sailor (track – previously unreleased 2022 mix)
22. Holland Promo 1 (1973)


CD 3
THE BEACH BOYS LIVE AT CARNEGIE HALL (Previously Unreleased)
November 23, 1972

1st Set

1. Concert Intro: Jack Rieley
2. Sloop John B
3. You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
4. Leaving This Town
5. Darlin’
6. Only With You
7. Heroes and Villains
8. Long Promised Road
9. Don’t Worry, Baby
10. Student Demonstration Time
11. I Get Around

CD 4
THE BEACH BOYS LIVE AT CARNEGIE HALL (Previously Unreleased)
November 23, 1972

2nd Set

1. Intro to 2nd Set: Jack Rieley
2. Marcella
3. California Saga – California
4. Help Me, Rhonda
5. Let The Wind Blow
6. Medley: Wonderful / Don’t Worry, Bill
7. God Only Knows
8. Do It Again
9. Wouldn’t It Be Nice
10. Wild Honey
11. Good Vibrations
12. California Girls
13. Surfin’ USA
14. Fun Fun Fun
15. Jumpin’ Jack Flash


CD 5
1972 SESSIONS (Previously Unreleased)

1. You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (a Capella mix – previously unreleased)
2. Marcella (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
3. Here She Comes (session excerpt – previously unreleased)
4. Here She Comes (2022 mix – previously unreleased)
5. He Come Down (a Cappella section – previously unreleased)
6. Hold On Dear Brother (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
7. Steamboat (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
8. California Saga – California (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
9. The Trader (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
10. The Trader (second section a Cappella – previously unreleased)
11. Only With You (alternate mix – previously unreleased)
12. Funky Pretty (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
13. Sail On Sailor (songwriting session – previously unreleased)
14. Sail On Sailor (a Cappella mix – previously unreleased)
15. Out In The Country (version 1) (previously unreleased)
16. Out In The Country (version 2) (previously unreleased)
17. Oh Sweet Something (previously unreleased)
18. Spark in the Dark (previously unreleased track)
19. Rooftop Harry (previously unreleased track)
18. Body Talk (Grease Job) (previously unreleased track)
19. Holland Promo 2 (1973)


CD 6
LIVE BONUS TRACKS

1. We Got Love (Live 1973 – previously unreleased)
2. California Saga – Big Sur (Live 1973 – previously unreleased)
3. Funky Pretty (Live 1973 – previously unreleased)
4. The Trader (Live 1975 – previously unreleased)
5. Sail On Sailor (Live 1975 – previously unreleased)
6. All This Is That (Live 1993 – previously unreleased)

MOUNT VERNON AND FAIRWAY (A FAIRYTALE) SESSIONS (Previously Unreleased)

7. Fairy Tale Music (2022 mix – previously unreleased)
8. Pa Let Her Go Out (Better Get Back In Bed alternate version with intro – previously unreleased)
9. I’m The Pied Piper (a Cappella section – previously unreleased)
10. Radio King Dom (a Cappella section – previously unreleased)
11. I’m The Pied Piper (alternate take spoken section – previously unreleased)
12. Medley: Mount Vernon and Fairway Theme / A Casual Look (session excerpt – previously unreleased)

1972 BONUS TRACKS (Previously Unreleased)

13. Little Child (Daddy Dear) (Holland home recording)
14. Susie Cincinnati (Holland home recording)
15. Medley: Gimme Some Lovin’ / I Need Your Love

CALIFORNIA SAGA TRILOGY

16. California Saga – Big Sur
17. California Saga – The Beaks of Eagles (2022 edit – previously unreleased)
18. California Saga – California
19. Carry Me Home (track and backing vocals – previously unreleased)
20. All This Is That (a Capella alternate verse – previously unreleased)

the short answer is no, of course not.

and yet I have often wished Mike Love would hang it up, and I don't mind if he knows it. I guess I'm mostly bothered with him only performing as The Beach Boys which should also include Brian and Al in my opinion. if Mike wanted to keep performing under his own name I'm ok with that because I certainly don't have to go see it.

likewise, I think a lot of fans are more concerned for Brian's happiness without being critical of his actual output. for many years, fans have seemed unsure just how much Brian wanted to be out on tour and worried that he's been forced into it somehow. many of us have seen him seeming disinterested at times in concert, and his recent back problems also raised flags.

but I think time has shown that Brian does indeed enjoy performing his music to appreciative audiences, he enjoys being active, and he enjoys the camaraderie his band provides. when the pandemic hit and tours were cancelled indefinitely, I did feel some relief for Brian and I thought he was probably enjoying some time off. but at this point, I think he's chomping at the bit to get back out there.

more power to him.