Nice post Lady and one I agree with.
For me the legacy of the band is a good one but a few points still disappoint. Al's departure, however the reason. The last official 'new' album (Nashville), Various and numerous court cases and the bad feelings between members, and Brian contributing more leads to Beach Boys songs now than anytime during his time in the band.

I am thinking of the last time members of Pink Floyd stood together onstage in 2006 after a fantastic set. Since then they have lost one of their band-mates. How special they could put their differences aside for just one night for both themselves and their fans.

If Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce and David are willing to work together well for a short project such as a one-off concert and played music that Carl and Dennis sang, contributed to and enjoyed during their career, then that would honor and be worthy of 'The Beach Boys' title.

Had a look at a few of the 81 Long each clips on Youtube. Not the greatest vocally of course but he sang a lot of leads due to Carl being away during his solo period. Some not so bad I guess. Did he do the whole 81 tour and how were those shows compared to Long Beach?

Brian's last good Beach Boys concert? LIVE AID, 1985. He never looked better.

Really? No leads, sideman only IMO. Good for Brian but not a good performance by most entertainers standards surely.

The lyric may help?

Waving from the ocean liner
The native Indians behind that

Rock, rock and roll
Plymouth rock, roll over
Rock, rock and roll
Plymouth rock, roll over
Ribbon of concrete, just see what you done done
To the church of the american indian ...

Once upon the Sandwich Isles
The social structure steamed upon Hawaii
Rock, rock and roll
Plymouth rock, roll over
Rock, rock and roll
Plymouth rock, roll over

Bicycle rider, see see what you�ve done,
To the church of the american indian ...

Wa halla loo lay
Wa halla loo lah
Keeny wok a poo lah
Wa halla loo lay
Wa halla loo lah
Keeny wok a poo lah
Wa halla loo lay
Wa halla loo lah
Keeny wok a poo lah
Wa halla loo lay
Wa halla loo lah
Keeny wok a poo lah

Rock, rock and roll
Plymouth rock, roll over
Rock, rock and roll
Plymouth rock, roll over



...and

http://www.sandwichislands.com/

Something I touched on under the Bruce reunion thread.
I would expect the early 60s would be the last time he sang a good percentage of leads but I have read he was pretty good in Hawaii 67 ? No problem in being corrected.

Just a question that may be worth a thread.

Their official web page has used that title for years.

http://www.beachboysband.com/

A way to keep the touring band and the now dormant recording band separate I guess.

Thanks for your post about the bowl Jon. I mentioned a few posts back about this being a new on stage line-up and thinking outside the square.

How would you feel about Brian singing 'You Are So Beautifull' solo?

Carrie, thanks to you for your answer. It's great David is still int the loop so to speak. Would you care to share his and your opinion on the Brian, Mike and Al relationship or feelings at the present? That seems to have been the most strained.

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Re the posts on how the voice's may sound now compared to the bands prime.

I think for me, that would be a reason for my interest. A certain difference and freshness to what we have heard for the last 40 plus years in concert or record. A certain rough edge may add something to certain songs. One that springs to mind would be David rocking on 'Wild Honey'.

Remember the combination of Mike, Brian, Al, Bruce and David on stage together is new. Yes, for a band almost 50 years old something new. Why not think outside the square and make it interesting and tempting for all parties to say 'why the hell not'.

Well at the risk of being shouted down. In once sense I would say Brian owes the Beach Boys a good show!

Not to take anything away from his musical contribution as a song writer to the band, his live performances were poor after the early 60s or not at all.
To have him now singing what, 25 plus songs as lead vocalist with his own band today is incredible.

To have him sing lead on 12-15 songs on stage with a reunited Mike and co would be unheard of, even at their peak.

I would suspect these Christmas songs are thrown together pretty quickly by whoever is in town with a few hours to spare...and it shows!

But who cares?

I think a concert or product you pay for is fair game. Anything else, enjoy it for what it is.

It wouldn't be Christmas without a critique of Brian's 'gift'  would it?

Why the concern if Brian could work with The BB's again. The way I read Bruce's post is a one off show, 40 songs nothing more.

So sort out a band, set list (the Mike and Bruce 40 song UK list would do), orchestra for certain tracks. No need for Brian yet.

Gig day. Brian required for ET fluff-piece, sound-check and sings 12-15 leads plus a few oooh-aahhhs in concert. Out-a-there!

One day max. Easy money.

Brians dogs need walking!

I still think something will happen as soon as Yoko..I mean certain interested parties think Brian's solo career has tanked.

From the BBBritain site.

Personally I'm not looking at a 'next album' for me. I focus more on music behind the scenes (my song writing with an emphasis on television & film).
As a 'next album' for the 'Beach Boys still standing' I'd like to see a 40 song CD/DVD live concert performance with Al, Mike, Brian, David & me (lot's of extremely well known Beach Boys anthems along with the great yet rarely performed album 'fragile songs'). I'd also include a bonus CD of one solo track studio recording from each of us.
It would kind of be a controlled 'reunion' of sorts without running the financial risk and expense of a full blown tour. The economics of a 'When Surf Freezes Over' concert tour are very difficult.
The CD/DVD producer? Definitely David Foster (he's my first ten choices). Brian or any of us? Not really because I'd like us to function as the 'artist' and just concentrate on the music.

Bruce Johnston
Beverly, Mass.
December 6, 2009

Very nice!

If you have a website for the book, I suggest you add it to this Historical sites link.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,5541.0.html


God forbid it ends up in the 'Still waiting' thread. 

Good luck and keep us informed.

Get yourself this...

http://www.beachboysstore.com/c=8ZPPlsHtDmlQuxSsviDxoZXBx/product/BB_BLUETYEHAT/The_Beach_Boys_Blue_TyeDye_Hat.html

add this...

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/the-beach-boys-mens-vintage-jacket/ZZZ003465-MJ.html

plus those shirts and you too could be the Lovester! Perfect for next Halloween.

An annual round-up of promised/ proposed Beach Boys related projects that never see the light of day.


www.beachboyscentral.com  (BBs own website)

www.aljardine.com  (A Postcard From California)

Unleash the Love (Mike Love)

Brian Wilson Bio

....Did I miss anything?

Full Sail is a great Carl lead but I'm into sailing so some bias there.

HCTN, aside from being far to long was 2-3 years late trying to get the disco crowd. The Four Seasons, also industry veterans, timed it perfectly with 'Who Loves You' 75-76.

The BBC Radio 2 homepage looks pretty comprehensive so I am sure it will be available at some stage.

I am interested in why Roger Daltrey? Not that there is any reason why not but did he know Dennis very well?

Bruce tells his story about Keith Moon and I have a book with Moon on stage with the band in the early 70s but what was the history with The Who, if any?

Oh yeah....

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2008/12/roger_daltrey_to_front_dennis_wilson_doc.html

Roger Daltrey, frontman of The Who, will narrate a special one-off documentary commemorating the 25th anniversary of the death of Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson for BBC Radio 2.
Pacific Ocean Blues: The Life and Death of Dennis Wilson is a 60-minute documentary by Made in Manchester Productions, which will use interviews with family, friends and bandmates to examine every aspect of his personality and talent.

Contributors include ex-wives Barbara and Carole, surviving members of The Beach Boys and his closest friends, many of whom will be interviewed for the first time.

A founding member of The Beach Boys, Wilson was raised in the shadow of his older brother and musical genius, Brian.

As the only surfer in the group, he inspired many of their early hits.

He was also the band's pin-up who lived the rock and roll lifestyle that ultimately resulted in his downfall.

Among other things, Wilson starred in a cult movie, married one of his daughter's friends and lived with future serial killer Charles Manson.

Furthermore, he emerged as a musical genius in his own right, recording Pacific Ocean Blue in 1977, which is today considered one of the best albums of that decade.

The programme will look at his song-writing development using music, some of which had not been heard until recently. The doc will also chart the darker side of his life, as he spiralled into drug and alcohol addiction and his struggle to find happiness.

Wilson, who left behind a string of failed marriages and a number of children, drowned at Marina Del Rey, Los Angeles, in 1983, aged 39.

Made in Manchester creative director Ashley Byrne said: "Dennis Wilson's story, which has never been properly told, is among the most interesting and tragic in rock and roll history."

Pacific Ocean Blues: The Life and Death of Dennis Wilson, was   produced by Matt Haslam, executive produced by Russell Crewe and Ashley Byrne.

It will broadcast as part of Radio 2's Christmas and New Year schedule.

Author: Rob Shepherd.

With no Beatles I think Brian would have followed the life style of the Stones and taken a sh*t-load of drugs, a teenage bride and eventually been fired from his own group... ehhh? 

Re the instruments. I think Donna Summer was next so may have been hers.

Multi tracked for sure. I prefer Graduation Day from 84 to display their live vocal chops at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGRSpVl8wss&feature=related

Hard to tell about Brian but they are all reaching for the high notes at the end.

Like the Grammys ever really mattered that much.

For sure. But the band did think it was important to front a few years back for the wooden spoon. Or as I call it, the 'we have f**ked up by not knowing good music when we have heard it so give them the 'Life-time Achievement grammy'.

This just reminded me I read this on the BBBritain site this week. True? Who..eh..nose!

Great quote from a Glen Campbell interview in the new ESQ.
ESQ - "Any memories come to mind about some of the other individual Beach Boys?"
Glen - " Carl Wilson was a really nice guy and a good player, good singer, good everything. He was just an all around musician. And the guy who sings through his nose - what's his name?"
ESQ - Mike Love
Glen - Mike Love, yeah. I always said to him 'If you ever hurt your nose, man, you'll be out of a job'"

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as for those who'd rather discuss food with him - i don't believe you

Guess what? Its true. Not food for me but as I mentioned, travel.
So let me get this right. If you met Brian at the coffee shop he frequents and you struck up a conversation, you would encourage him to talk about music? Nice.
Just because it is the reason we are on this board does not mean Beach Boys music, Brian's music or the music of others would be of interest to Brian Wilson or any artist during their down time. In fact I would class it as rude.
The time for music is when they are writing it, recording it, promoting it or performing it. Outside of that leave it alone.

Given the state of Brian in the last 40 years I can not think of any reason he would want to discuss music out of hours. His short answers when he is on the clock confirm that.