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176  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is your Smile Track Listing? on: August 24, 2016, 04:43:27 PM
Would following Our Prayer with 'Worms' be justified? What key is end of Prayer and the beginning of Worms in?

If you put a few seconds of silence in between I don't think it matters. That's the sequence I use too. And after DYLW I put H&V.
177  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: August 11, 2016, 04:08:40 PM
In roughly 45 minutes or so of continuous tape, there is no "Danny" and his voice is nowhere to be found among those talking and participating in this session. And that's beyond what made it to the Sessions box set. I believe as has been said it was a send-up of Danny's song that was a joke. If Danny were there, my bet is on the fact we'd at least hear him engage in the proceedings, or even be called out if he's in the booth. He was not.

Thanks for that well-informed and, I think, definitive answer.
178  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: August 11, 2016, 07:42:56 AM
I had no problem recognizing Danny's voice with the bit of his vibrato heard there, not at all sounding VDP

I'm going to have to go with Cam Mott on this. His suggestion that VDP is parodying Danny Hutton's voice and then Brian's reaction just make a whole lot of sense to me.
179  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: August 10, 2016, 11:46:30 PM
Brian Wilson, Van Dyke Parks, Michael Vosse, David Anderle, and Bob Gordan (or Gordon) are the voices on that and the other skits.

Can anyone point me to where Danny Hutton is either heard or mentioned on those tapes? All of the guys listed above are called out by name or are so recognizable during the session, but I don't recall hearing anyone say "Danny" and he wasn't one of the voices actively participating. Yet I've seen it reported that Danny was there...maybe in the booth? Anyway, if someone can point to where Danny is clearly heard or referenced, please fill us in.

At 1:18 on the Smile Sessions edit Brian says (in a surprised voice) "Danny, what's happening? Where'd Danny come from? He just suddenly showed up." But if Cam Mott's suggestion that the person singing "What a thing to happen" is VDP mock-singing a Danny Hutton song, then it would make sense that Brian is  jokingly pretending to be fooled into thinking that Danny Hutton is really there.
180  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: August 10, 2016, 06:35:42 PM
No that's Danny Hutton (not VDP) - "What A Thing To Happen!".  The line is from Danny's 45 record on MGM about a year earlier "FUNNY HOW LOVE CAN BE"

Isn't it VDP doing a parody of Danny Hutton?

To me, it sounds like it could very well be VDP. It has that nasal timbre that I hear on VDP's own records.
181  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: August 10, 2016, 05:17:59 PM
No that's Danny Hutton (not VDP) - "What A Thing To Happen!".  The line is from Danny's 45 record on MGM about a year earlier "FUNNY HOW LOVE CAN BE"

Thanks for your response. Unfortunately  the horse is out of the barn on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AjJ9n4XiQ
182  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love You Appreciation thread on: August 09, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
I really appreciate Let Us Go On This Way. That one's cool. The Night Was Young is good too. The album just has a lot of really bad vocals, which should be their main selling point. The synthesizer sounds are primitive and behind the curve for the time. I do like the album mostly, but it's a mere reflection of former glory, not any return to form. It does sound good in comparison to everything that followed, I'll give you that, 'cuz it's a Brian album y'know?.
183  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: He Gives Speeches video on: August 05, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
Fantastic as always! I'm looking forward to your slideshow of "Surf's Up" whenever you get there!

Thanks. "Surf's Up" is all that's left to complete my project and I hope it will be a fitting finale. I'm thinking November 4th will be a good day to upload it.
184  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / He Gives Speeches video on: August 05, 2016, 09:46:29 PM
Please check out the latest in my series of Smile slideshow videos "He Gives Speeches". I know it's not a very popular Smile song, but I've always liked it's ramshackle tone in contrast to the rest of Smile. I hope you will enjoy the video as much as I did making it.

He Gives Speeches    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_fq525872M



The other slideshows in the series so far:

Prayer     https://youtu.be/PcT_61jH5KI
Do You Like Worms     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCh80PqEes
Heroes And Villains    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIq0SSiLnGs
George Fell Into His French Horn   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeSiTZi1Go
Good Vibrations     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ef0H1Tl7Js
Cabin Essence   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u38toJ2HhqA  
He Gives Speeches    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_fq525872M
Wonderful/Look/Child Is Father of the Man     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wzsgnv1J6o
Wind Chimes     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM0HL6Stgbs
The Elements     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYwBNIPRAQ
Brian Falls Into A Piano    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AjJ9n4XiQ
Vega-Tables    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he1xzRem3TU
I'm In Great Shape/The Old Master Painter     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHDT2NDsbnQ

Smile Playlist:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcT_61jH5KI&list=PLptIp1kEl6BWNpXyJ_mb20W4ZqJ14-Hgg
185  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Albums where the two sides differ on: August 02, 2016, 09:04:20 PM
Queen II- Instead of side 1 and side 2, it had Side Black which was all Freddie Mercury compositions, and Side White which was four songs by Brian May and one by Roger Taylor.
186  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Holland - end of an era? on: August 02, 2016, 08:59:26 PM
I would say Holland is the end of the era where they were trying (trying too hard maybe?), boosted by their then current management, to be cool. For me, Surf's Up was really the last truly solid record.  Carl and the Passions is wildly inconsistent and I'm not a big Dennis booster so his contributions don't add much for me. Holland is somewhat better, but nowhere close to great. I appreciate Holland more in retrospect, but for decades the only two songs I really gave a hang about were 'Sail On Sailor' and 'Funky Pretty'. I do like 'Trader' these days. Different opinions right? Please no hard feelings to those that think those two albums are the bees knees.
187  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Albums where the two sides differ on: July 15, 2016, 10:40:48 AM
Todd Rundgren- Faithful     One side is all cover versions (including his Top 40 cover of 'Good Vibrations') and the other side is all originals.
188  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Cars on: July 14, 2016, 09:44:19 PM
My favorite is Panorama. I think it's way better than Candy-O.
189  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is your Smile Track Listing? on: July 14, 2016, 07:17:03 AM
Side A
1. Surf's Up
2. Look
3. Fall Breaks and Back to Winter
4. Vege-Tables
5. She Gives Speeches
6. She's Goin Bald

Side B
7. just the chorus of Cabin Essence repeated four times
8. Heroes and Villains (15 minute version)
9. Surf's Up
10. The Elements (Earth = Wonderful, Water = Surf's Up, Wind = Barnyard, Fire = Wind Chimes)
11. Sloop John B
12. Our Prayer


That's thinking outside the box.
190  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is your Smile Track Listing? on: July 13, 2016, 03:23:40 PM
It's really a fantasy mix. Like if this real then it would be the best thing ever but I am afraid that I have no audacity or audio editing skills :/. Sorry man
Tease!
191  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bicycle sounds in You Still Believe In Me live on: July 12, 2016, 05:50:32 PM
Don't you think they would have been taken out of the song in the first place if Brian didn't want them there?  Honestly I've never thought about it.  I've heard that song so many times, I've never even thought to question it.  I guess it adds some whimsy to an otherwise sad song.  Perhaps to Brian, the bicycle noises are just other instruments and not necessarily representative of anything in the lyrics.

I don't see it as a sad song. Now, It would be sad if the girl DIDN'T still believe in him. As for the horn sound left in for the live performance, I think it's just a bit of fun even though it doesn't really fit with the lyrics. It's expected after 50 years.
192  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is your Smile Track Listing? on: July 12, 2016, 05:35:58 PM
I know we've had threads like this before, but I'll play along. After a lot of years I've gotten to a place where I am satisfied with my sequencing. Until something new is unearthed (I believe in my heart there is more to come) I feel like this is Smile for me (all stereo). It mostly follows the order of the December '66 Capitol memo.

Side 1
(Prayer)
1)Worms (with insert of Holidays a la BWPS' On A Holiday)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCh80PqEes
goes right into
2)H&V (a 5:46 Cantina version)
(George Fell Into His French Horn)
3)Surf's Up (without CIFOTM ending)
4)Good Vibrations (a 5:28 extended version)    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ef0H1Tl7Js
5)Cabin Essence

Side 2
(He Gives Speeches)
1)Wonderful
goes right into
2)CIFOTM comprised of Look(seltaeb's edit with vocals)/CIFOTM
3)Wind Chimes (with Whispering Winds fade)
4)The Elements comprised of LTSD Second Day-Air/Mrs, O'Leary-Fire (no H&V intro)/LTSD-Water (no chant)/IWBA & Workshop- Earth    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYwBNIPRAQ
(Brian Falls Into A Piano)
5)Vega-Tables
(H&V Reprise)
6)IIGS comprised of IIGS/Barnyard/IIGS/Do A Lot (with whistling)/IIGS/With Me Tonight
goes right into
7)The Old Master Painter comprised of TOMP/YWMS /My Children Were Raised/Barnshine

It runs about 57 minutes.
193  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Beach Boys playing for Trump on: June 29, 2016, 03:49:21 PM
Bleccch! Sometimes they really make it hard to be a Beach Boys fan. I wonder if Donald Trump's "little hands" ever "shadowed on the ceiling"?
194  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / The new Explorers Club album 'Together' is out! on: June 24, 2016, 10:48:04 AM
Here’s some good news if you loved The Explorers Club’s first album ‘Freedom Wind’, but were less enthralled by their more varied 60s/70s Pop-spectrum sophomore album ‘Grand Hotel’. The Explorers Club’s new album ‘Together’ for the most part remains firmly entrenched in the Beach Boys’ sound. It’s unquestionably an album made by Beach Boys fans for Beach Boys fans. The album takes a turn half-way through, welding the beautiful melodies and harmonies of the BBs’ classic 60s sound to their 70s ‘BBs Love You’ aesthetics but never strays too far from homage. Here I go track-by track:

Together- EC’s take on Wild Honey complete with wailing synth line begins deceptively before kicking in with the pounding drums for the chorus. Wah wah guitars add some funk with a Carl-esque soulful vocal finish. 5/5

California Callin’-  Recalls Good Timin’ which is a good thing indeed. Completely relaxed feel like a lazy afternoon. 5/5

Once In A While- This cuts departs Beach Boys territory a bit with a dreamy echo-y chorus that is more Curt Boetcher than Brian Wilson. Still, this is fantastic Sunshine Pop. 5/5

Be Around- Who wants a ‘Friends’ homage waltz that even throws in the original’s modulations and trademark bass harmonica? I do! Ido! Beautiful. 5/5

Gold Winds- This is slice of 70s California soft rock with a hint of Country, though still replete with plenty of obvious BBs influence. It’s not much of a stretch to imagine the Eagles recording this. 4/5

Perfect Day- This is a perfectly lovely Four Freshmen style vocal piece that is unfortunately presented in mono, and disrupts the album’s carefully-crafted aesthetic and flow. It should have been stuck at the end of the album. 4/5

Quietly- This is where the album takes a sudden left turn into to ‘BBs Love You’ land with synthesizers starting to hold up the arrangements. If ‘Hushabye’ were recorded in 1976 it might sound something like this. EC may be fascinated by 70’s era BBs music, but on this album they always still manage to include the innocence and beauty of their earlier era. 5/5

My Friend- The ‘Love You’ style continues. Though I hear some some decidedly un-Wilson like chords, if I had any doubts that we are still in ‘Love You’ territory, the unexpected stomp of the ‘Ding-Dang’-ish coda dispels any doubts.

No Strings Attached- If, in the mid-70s, Brian Wilson sat down to write a song, and thought  that he would try to emulate brother Dennis’  ‘Forever’ it might have come out something like this. Unashamedly romantic  sap. 4/5

Don’t Waste Her Time- This is Wilson welded onto Burt Bacharach. The arrangement is distinctly BW synth-based, but the song would have probably been more at home on the last EC album (maybe not surprising since this track dates back a few years). Still, it’s fantastic. 5/5

Before I’m Gone- Ahhh! They saved the best for last.  This homage  to ‘Til I Die’ (even the title tips this off) finds the synth sounds of the previous several tracks kicked to the curb for a lovely album-closing sunburst finish. With beautiful vocals to die for, the song resolves with repetitive intertwining harmony lines much like the BBs classic. 6/5

So ‘Together’ is an excellent album that could have used a better mix to punch things up. Though it’s mostly lacking in direct impact, it’s an album for relaxing to on hot summer afternoons. Let it’s laid-back vibe wash over you.

195  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Youtube video for Brian Falls Into A Piano on: June 21, 2016, 03:18:28 PM
Brian just posted this on his facebook!
Wow! I feel truly honored to have my little video linked to on The Man's very own page. That is just too cool.
196  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday Brian on: June 20, 2016, 03:48:06 PM
Happy Birthday, Brian! and watch out that you don't fall into the piano. Your gift has given us all so much pleasure over the years. Thanks a million!

My birthday tribute:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AjJ9n4XiQ
197  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Youtube video for Brian Falls Into A Piano on: June 19, 2016, 11:18:30 PM
In honor of  Mr. Wilson's 74th, please enjoy the latest in my series of Smile slideshow videos 'Brian Falls Into A Piano'.

Brian Falls Into A Piano:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AjJ9n4XiQ

The other slideshows in the series so far:
Prayer     https://youtu.be/PcT_61jH5KI
Do You Like Worms     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCh80PqEes
Heroes And Villains    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIq0SSiLnGs
George Fell Into His French Horn   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeSiTZi1Go
Good Vibrations     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ef0H1Tl7Js
Cabin Essence   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u38toJ2HhqA  
He Gives Speeches    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_fq525872M
Wonderful/Look/Child Is Father of the Man     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wzsgnv1J6o
Wind Chimes     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM0HL6Stgbs
The Elements     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYwBNIPRAQ
Brian Falls Into A Piano    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AjJ9n4XiQ
Vega-Tables    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he1xzRem3TU
I'm In Great Shape/The Old Master Painter     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHDT2NDsbnQ

Smile Playlist:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcT_61jH5KI&list=PLptIp1kEl6BWNpXyJ_mb20W4ZqJ14-Hgg
198  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Boston Mayor Marty Walsh Declares Today PET SOUNDS DAY in Boston! on: June 17, 2016, 08:18:39 AM
That's really cool. I assume the shows are being filmed for posterity. I'd love to see that.
199  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: June 07, 2016, 09:37:12 PM
The skit was recorded in November of 1966 with the "Vosse Posse" (Michael Vosse, David Anderle, Van Dyke Parks, Danny Hutton etc). Not sure who says the Vegetables line though, but Van is the one who yells what sounds like "what a thing to burn!" near the end.
I think he sings "What a thing to happen!"
200  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Question about 'Brian Falls Into A Piano' on: June 07, 2016, 08:53:38 PM
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been trying to figure out the voices behind this Smile skit.  Specifically at the end of the edit on the Smile Sessions, who is it that says "I wanna be round my vegetables."  Is it Parks? Does Parks appear in this skit at all?
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