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« Reply #600 on: February 19, 2011, 02:09:58 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Are his initials "AJ"?
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« Reply #601 on: February 19, 2011, 02:25:29 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Are his initials "AJ"?

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« Reply #602 on: February 19, 2011, 02:28:50 PM »

Al screwed up...but it makes me laugh.
Since 1966 or so, have the Beach Boys all ever been on the same page at the same time? What a mess they are!
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« Reply #603 on: February 19, 2011, 02:33:57 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Oh gee, if "this guy" said it's so, then there's absolutely no sense anyone else posting a thing about this  until we hear from "him" again. 
Is "this guy" in love with you?
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« Reply #604 on: February 19, 2011, 02:52:57 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Oh gee, if "this guy" said it's so, then there's absolutely no sense anyone else posting a thing about this  until we hear from "him" again. 
Is "this guy" in love with you?
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« Reply #605 on: February 19, 2011, 02:56:37 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Oh gee, if "this guy" said it's so, then there's absolutely no sense anyone else posting a thing about this  until we hear from "him" again. 
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I knew it!!  "this guy" is Mike Love!!!
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« Reply #606 on: February 19, 2011, 04:41:48 PM »

Since 1966 or so, have the Beach Boys all ever been on the same page at the same time?

Yes. They all love Hawaiian shirts.
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« Reply #607 on: February 19, 2011, 07:52:41 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Oh gee, if "this guy" said it's so, then there's absolutely no sense anyone else posting a thing about this  until we hear from "him" again. 
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I knew it!!  "this guy" is Mike Love!!!

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« Reply #608 on: February 19, 2011, 09:56:07 PM »

Never heard of this site but it claims SMiLE will come out in June:
http://www.60sgaragebands.com/newsnuggets/2011releasedates.html

Also, what is "Classic Albums?" (In March.)

Most likely EMI's bargain bin venture of two of the CEMA special products versions of the original albums (some with certain tracks omitted) packaged together haphazardly.
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« Reply #609 on: February 19, 2011, 10:00:09 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Thankee kindly, that's just the kind of thing I like to read/hear!

I know a guy like that.  And he said something like that.
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« Reply #610 on: February 19, 2011, 10:04:19 PM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Thankee kindly, that's just the kind of thing I like to read/hear!

I know a guy like that.  And he said something like that.
I also "know" a "guy" who "said" something like "that".

I also "live" in a "van" down by "the river".  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #611 on: February 20, 2011, 02:53:12 AM »

I still don't understand Al's comments, the 'I don’t know if we even have enough parts to put it together or not. May have to record some more'. If Purple Chick could mash together a decent sounding SMiLE mix using official, booted and BWPS pieces then surely the guys with the actual masters should be able to??
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« Reply #612 on: February 20, 2011, 04:07:51 AM »

I still don't understand Al's comments, the 'I don’t know if we even have enough parts to put it together or not. May have to record some more'. If Purple Chick could mash together a decent sounding SMiLE mix using official, booted and BWPS pieces then surely the guys with the actual masters should be able to??

Al only said that because he had to come up with something to sort of retract what he said in the first place. The guess is he spoke too soon, was slapped on the wrist by the powers that be, and had to backpeddle a bit.
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« Reply #613 on: February 20, 2011, 04:20:16 AM »

This guy I know confirmed to me a few weeks back that Capitol were indeed releasing "the Smile fragments". "This guy" really should be on the money, he has been practically/literally begging Capitol to do so since the early eighties!

Oh gee, if "this guy" said it's so, then there's absolutely no sense anyone else posting a thing about this  until we hear from "him" again. 
Is "this guy" in love with you?
Everyone's in love with you

I knew it!!  "this guy" is Mike Love!!!

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Could this guy also kick the butts of certain people (the Beach Boys) to let beachboyscentral go finally online ?
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« Reply #614 on: February 20, 2011, 04:58:42 AM »

I still don't understand Al's comments, the 'I don’t know if we even have enough parts to put it together or not. May have to record some more'. If Purple Chick could mash together a decent sounding SMiLE mix using official, booted and BWPS pieces then surely the guys with the actual masters should be able to??

Al only said that because he had to come up with something to sort of retract what he said in the first place. The guess is he spoke too soon, was slapped on the wrist by the powers that be, and had to backpeddle a bit.

I think that's correct. Perhaps he even got told to sow some confusion ('rerecord'), to make a release seem improbable.
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« Reply #615 on: February 20, 2011, 05:39:34 AM »

You never know
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« Reply #616 on: February 20, 2011, 05:45:18 AM »

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« Reply #617 on: February 20, 2011, 05:53:17 AM »

I had written more, but then decided it was offensive....sorry...
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« Reply #618 on: February 20, 2011, 08:49:09 AM »

Never heard of this site but it claims SMiLE will come out in June:
http://www.60sgaragebands.com/newsnuggets/2011releasedates.html

Also, what is "Classic Albums?" (In March.)

Most likely EMI's bargain bin venture of two of the CEMA special products versions of the original albums (some with certain tracks omitted) packaged together haphazardly.

In duophonic.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #619 on: February 20, 2011, 09:45:37 AM »

I still don't understand Al's comments, the 'I don’t know if we even have enough parts to put it together or not. May have to record some more'. If Purple Chick could mash together a decent sounding SMiLE mix using official, booted and BWPS pieces then surely the guys with the actual masters should be able to??

Except The Beach Boys/Capitol wouldn't be using BWPS pieces.
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« Reply #620 on: February 20, 2011, 10:36:30 AM »

yeah a lot of the transitions aren't in the original recordings.  and those are some of the best parts.
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« Reply #621 on: February 20, 2011, 12:02:07 PM »

Just how could this project pan out?

BWPS was presented as Brian finishes SMiLE after 37 years so to be credible any 'Beach Boys Fragments' release should surely follow the same order or it would undermine what Brian did in 2004. Other parts could form some kind of 'bonus' tracks I guess.

Having said that, just how would this thing be presented? A stand-alone album to me seems unlikely. A re-release of BWPS with a 'Fragments' bonus disk? A SMiLE book/DVD/Fragments package? Fifty Year GHs album with bonus SMiLE fragments disk?

I think it is going to happen but in what form would Capitol get a return and at the same time not undermine what Brian did with his BWPS?
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« Reply #622 on: February 20, 2011, 12:45:09 PM »

It's a good question. it's not going to be easy, it never has been easy to assemble it.

In my opinion they should put edited together parts of songs that follow BWPS order and then unused fragments and songs(He Gives Speeches) afterwads--if it's a short set. the problem with that, is, well, it's been done. But I guess if we're talking one disc that would be the best. Not sure what to do about the talky bits.

Or...chronologically present the fragments and rough edits, then put it together BWPS-style. then tack on a stereo version of Smiley Smile to round it out. Smiley
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« Reply #623 on: February 20, 2011, 01:10:17 PM »

Just how could this project pan out?

BWPS was presented as Brian finishes SMiLE after 37 years so to be credible any 'Beach Boys Fragments' release should surely follow the same order or it would undermine what Brian did in 2004. Other parts could form some kind of 'bonus' tracks I guess.

Having said that, just how would this thing be presented? A stand-alone album to me seems unlikely. A re-release of BWPS with a 'Fragments' bonus disk? A SMiLE book/DVD/Fragments package? Fifty Year GHs album with bonus SMiLE fragments disk?

I think it is going to happen but in what form would Capitol get a return and at the same time not undermine what Brian did with his BWPS?

If indeed 'fragments' is a working/finished title I don't see how it could undermine what Brian did in 2004. As the name 'Fragments' suggests, this will be a compilation of 66/67 SMiLE material. The name has a lot to do with how this work will be perceived....and fragments is a good way of saying "We don't have a running order as was intended in 66/67. So here is a compilation."

I don't think it will be a stand-alone album. As the title suggests, it will consist of all the fragments Brian recorded for this work. And I think the track line-up will be decided chronologically by the session dates - just as with the session CDs from the Pet Sounds Sessions. We'll have the 'Highlights From Tracking Date' and then the finished work. We'll have a bonus disc of alternate versions, Smog rants, and humor tapes.

Maybe the first disc will stand alone - being the 12 tracks from the handwritten note to Capitol...all in the order of than note.

Oh yeah, and each track will sound as good as those on the Pet Sounds Sessions set. Hopefully.
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« Reply #624 on: February 20, 2011, 01:32:17 PM »

My gameplan would be a two-part release:

A single disc of the 'best' bits for the general public...

A 3/4/more disc box set of the sessions for the likes of us.

As for a title, well, The Smile Sessions 1966-67 has a certain ring to it, wouldn't you say ?  As for 'undermining BWPS, so what ? Brian isn't fussed or he'd never have agreed to the original material seeing the light of day. BWPS is done, it was done 20 years ago today, almost to the hour. It's long dropped off Brian's radar.
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