Beach Boys music collecting:Can This Really Be The End?

[MBE]

I think he means the uncut Revolution 1 part of which became 9.

[punkinhead]

I think he means the uncut Revolution 1 part of which became 9.

now I'm confused. 

[hypehat]

What he means is Revolution 1 (Take 20), which is the full master of the White Album tune wherein John & Yoko get crazy during a really extended fade out. It's amazing. Bits of it pop up in Revolution 9, such as Yoko going 'You become naked', etc. It rocks.

[RollPlymouthRock]

Nope, this is a later recording (1978), not the original 1974 recording Billy is talking about. The recording from 1974 hasn't been booted.
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My bad... Does anyone know what the difference between the two versions is?

[Mikie]

What he means is Revolution 1 (Take 20), which is the full master of the White Album tune wherein John & Yoko get crazy during a really extended fade out. It's amazing. Bits of it pop up in Revolution 9, such as Yoko going 'You become naked', etc. It rocks.

Yep. That's the one.

[The Shift]

Back to the thread, more or less, it's not just quiet on the official releases front; the cobblers also seem to have run out of material, other than resoling already released gigs and putting out stuff that's available at Wolfgang's Vault.

When was the last substantial glass slipper of studio outtakes etc?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Back to the thread, more or less, it's not just quiet on the official releases front; the cobblers also seem to have run out of material, other than resoling already released gigs and putting out stuff that's available at Wolfgang's Vault.

When was the last substantial glass slipper of studio outtakes etc?

Ummm... I'm thinking In The Beginning and All This Is That (although you could say the latter is largely upgrades). Prior to that, I guess Get The Boot.

Allegedly, of course, as I don't know anything about these things other than what I've been told, it being that I don't have any copies, because that would be wrong, wouldn't it ?

[bgas]

Back to the thread, more or less, it's not just quiet on the official releases front; the cobblers also seem to have run out of material, other than resoling already released gigs and putting out stuff that's available at Wolfgang's Vault.

When was the last substantial glass slipper of studio outtakes etc?

Ummm... I'm thinking In The Beginning and All This Is That (although you could say the latter is largely upgrades). Prior to that, I guess Get The Boot.

Allegedly, of course, as I don't know anything about these things other than what I've been told, it being that I don't have any copies, because that would be wrong, wouldn't it ?

Ahh no, definitely not wrong to find as much music from the bands you love.
WRONG for them to keep it from us, yes!
Wrong to try and sell it without giving the band their share; heck, if someone were to somhow find some unreleased songs that weren't owned by a record company, and pay the band royalties up-front, in anticipation  of  sales, what would be wrong with that?

[The Shift]

Back to the thread, more or less, it's not just quiet on the official releases front; the cobblers also seem to have run out of material, other than resoling already released gigs and putting out stuff that's available at Wolfgang's Vault.

When was the last substantial glass slipper of studio outtakes etc?

Ummm... I'm thinking In The Beginning and All This Is That (although you could say the latter is largely upgrades). Prior to that, I guess Get The Boot.

Allegedly, of course, as I don't know anything about these things other than what I've been told, it being that I don't have any copies, because that would be wrong, wouldn't it ?

Ahh no, definitely not wrong to find as much music from the bands you love.
WRONG for them to keep it from us, yes!
Wrong to try and sell it without giving the band their share; heck, if someone were to somhow find some unreleased songs that weren't owned by a record company, and pay the band royalties up-front, in anticipation  of  sales, what would be wrong with that?

Ah, but then maybe you'd be compromising the artist's right to decide what is done with his/her creations. If David Hockney throws an unsatisfactory sketch in the bin, is it in order for someone to root through the bin, iron the creases out and sell it at auction? Or is that theft?

If AGD deletes the fist draft of his Mike Love Biography, but some computer whizz hacks his PC and retrieves it from his trash, is he entitled to print it up and sell copies on eBay?

Grey areas, grey areas...

[bgas]

Grey areas, grey areas...

Whenever speaking about the Beach Boys, The AMERICAN Band, please use the proper spelling. 
It's GRAY.

[Andrew G. Doe]

If AGD deletes the fist draft of his Mike Love Biography...

OK, who's making with the loose lips ? 

[bgas]

If AGD deletes the fist draft of his Mike Love Biography...

OK, who's making with the loose lips ? 

Heck, I thought that was obvious from Wee Helper's post.

[The Shift]

If AGD deletes the fist draft of his Mike Love Biography...

OK, who's making with the loose lips ? 

Heck, I thought that was obvious from Wee Helper's post.

Sorry, that should have been FIRST draft. A FIST draft is an entirely different form of literature.

[PhilCohen]

a bit off topic, but is there anything in the Beatles archives worth releasing that might see the light of day?
I know the Let it Be film (with loads of outtakes and features) is in order.
But musically is there anything else out there?

There's probably about another hour's worth of Beatles alternate arrangements remaining, but no further unreleased songs.

[juggler]

Getting back on topic... yes, the original poster makes a very good point.

When was the last legitimate archival release of any significance?  Hawthorne, CA?  And when did that come out?  2001?   

Let's face it.  We were spoiled in the '90s with the 1993 box, the Pet Sounds box and Endless Harmony. 

Hopefully, the long dry spell will end soon, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Chris Moise]

Maybe it's just me but I'd like to hear the Durrie Parks acetates.

[Chris Moise]

Revolution 9 is in circulation now.

right, the comparison was to show another sound collage song, in this case, Lennon's Revolution 9 being superior to Macca's Carnival of Light...or so I've heard, I don't really know that.

Carnival of Light isn't a sound collage though. It's drums, guitar and two organs playing live with John and Paul shouting over the top of it. Totally different than Revolution 9.

[Mahalo]

Maybe it's just me but I'd like to hear the Durrie Parks acetates.

It's not just you...let's hope they somehow got archived.

[Dunderhead]

Has everything from SMiLE been booted? Like what about the (rumored) second movement of Surf's Up, do the tapes of that supposed session exist?

[hypehat]

Not in the vaults, apparently.

[The Shift]

Has everything from SMiLE been booted? Like what about the (rumored) second movement of Surf's Up, do the tapes of that supposed session exist?

I believe (going by memory here, which is always a dangerous thing where Wee Helper's concerned...) there's a Child version we're missing, which will hopefully be one of the jewels of the next archive release, whenever the BBs sanction such.  Not sure whether it's an alt take, an alt version, an alt mix, a version with lyrics or what. Maybe one of our celebrated archivists, or honoured guests, can shed light?

[Mikie]

I'm beginning to wonder if the Durrie Parks acetates really exist. It's been rumored for years. Or maybe she is waiting for a formal Smile release before she shares them. Wonder if her "Acetates" have already been booted. Has she found them yet? Hell, Jardine knows where his Heroes & Villains acetate is, doesn't he?

[The Shift]

I'm beginning to wonder if the Durrie Parks acetates really exist. It's been rumored for years. Or maybe she is waiting for a formal Smile release before she shares them. Wonder if her "Acetates" have already been booted. Has she found them yet? Hell, Jardine knows where his Heroes & Villains acetate is, doesn't he?

I wonder if she regards them as highly as we do. Maybe they're in a trunk in her garage, getting knocked about and pranged every time the car shifts into reverse by accident. They're just artefacts of her ex-husbands former employment, after all.

[shelter]

When was the last legitimate archival release of any significance?  Hawthorne, CA?

If you count live albums: Live at Knebworth in 2002.

[Bicyclerider]

Has everything from SMiLE been booted? Like what about the (rumored) second movement of Surf's Up, do the tapes of that supposed session exist?

I believe (going by memory here, which is always a dangerous thing where Wee Helper's concerned...) there's a Child version we're missing, which will hopefully be one of the jewels of the next archive release, whenever the BBs sanction such.  Not sure whether it's an alt take, an alt version, an alt mix, a version with lyrics or what. Maybe one of our celebrated archivists, or honoured guests, can shed light?

The Brian mixed instrumental track of Child (about 3 minutes long) hasn't been released, and of course should be - but it has been booted.  

If you look at Beach Boys archive material that hasn't been booted, the most obvious material suitable for release is LIVE stuff - the unreleased tracks from Sacramento 64, Chicago 65, the winter 67 tour, then various live 68-73 dates.  And of course official release of Michigan 66 and Hawaii 67.  The Good vibrations box set tour which may be the best concerts the Beach Boys ever gave.  Etc.