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« on: September 29, 2010, 11:36:49 AM »

I know lots of people tend to knock MIU album.. but I actually (overall) dig it, and think it's underrated.

It’s got a few relative clunkers, but to me, nothing that’s really super bad, just a few mediocre/cheesy tracks like Winds of Change and Kona Coast, and those are still sort of listenable. Most Beach Boys albums tend to have a clunker or two, that's just the way it seems to always have been.

I think that, despite lame lyrics on Matchpoint of our Love, that the song is rad and the music (and Brian’s vocals) transcends the lyrics. Hey Little Tomboy is embarrassing but I dig it as a guilty pleasure.

Tracks like Sweet Sunday Kind of Love, Belles of Paris, and My Diane I find to be very underrated tracks in the BB cannon. I dig the production and little late ‘70s flourishes, and good Beach Boys harmonies and vocals are definitely to be found on this record.  Maybe it's something I can only appreciate as a hardcore fan of the band, but I'll defend a good portion of the record as being pretty solid, compared to its reputation.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 11:42:08 AM »

They've done worse for sure but there is only one really good song on MIU and tellingly it was a leftover from the year before "My Diane". Lots of the backing tracks to my ears sounds like The Carpenters on a really bad day.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 11:43:48 AM »

I honestly don't think you need anything other than My Diane from this record. Hey Little Tomboy is the only really offensive thing on it, but it's just really dull. I prefer L.A out of the twofer.

I realise this is an appreciation thread, so I'll try and say something nice too  Grin

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It is as you say, quite well produced - they were obviously going for the polished soft-rock thing, and if you dig that (and can look past the snooze-inducing/horrifying matierial), there's a lot to like. And the harmonies are mostly still there. Oh, and Come Go With Me is the best of Al's misguided covers during the later years.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 12:45:50 PM »

Love My Diane and Pitter Patter. Don't mind Wontcha Come Out Tonight and Winds of Change.  The 15 BO tracks belong on 15 BO.  The rest is painful, to put it mildly, though Al's production does a decent job of smoothing things over.  Adding Winter Symphony, Lines  and the big band numbers from Adult Child (roughly from that period) at the expense of Tomboy, She's Got RhythmMatch Point and Kona Coast might've helped. Just. Wouldn't have sounded like MIU, of course, but it would've had several substantial BW tracks.  Wouldn't have minded if they could've found a way to add the Double Rock Baptist version of That Same Song...

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 02:34:25 PM »

I'd like it more if I could buy the twofer for a decent price, but...

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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 02:50:32 PM »

I'd like it more if I could buy the twofer for a decent price, but...

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Granted, you most likely wanted it in hard copy, but here's the link to the Mp3 version:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TDFKZI/sr=1-2/qid=1285796932/ref=sr_1_2_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1285796932&sr=1-2
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 04:02:54 PM »

The vinyl is currently at $5 on ebay...
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 06:14:39 PM »

I used to hate on MIU and would trash it relentlessly, but then the twofer with LA came out and I'd catch myself popping in the CD and getting ready to skip straight over to "Good Timin" but if I wasn't quick enough I'd get Brian yelling at me "Last night I went out Disco dancing" and I'd be hooked and have to listen to all of MIU!

Now I love the album!  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 06:46:48 PM »

Sweet Sunday Kind of Love is my favorite from MIU, especially the bridge...
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 08:18:31 PM »

a long time ago, when i first for the MIU/LA two-fer, it was around christmas time and I had gotten sick, and I listen to that cd over and over...now it just reminds me of being sick...but it really comforted me.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 11:06:05 PM »

WHen I first got the MIU/LA twofer, I loved the MIU album. I listened to it constantly. It was actually one of my favorite Beach Boys albums. I still really like it. The only real clunkers are She's Got Rhythm and Hey Little Tomboy. Actually, Hey Little Tomboy has a great track to it, if you can get past the weird lyrics. Carl sounds great on it. Something tells me that the song would be more popular among the fans had Dennis sung(sang?) it. Sweet Sunday Kind Of Love just might be Carl's most underrated song. Overall, I'd give the album 4 out of 5 stars.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 12:21:58 AM »

Doing a quick perusal of Amazon US, (which means I may have easily missed something), it appears the only original material BB albums not currently available as US CDs are MIU/LA Light, Still Crusin, and Summer in Paradise.

As far as MIU is concerned, I absolutely loved listening to most of it when it was released in Sept 1978.  I played the album constantly at home, as well as the cassette copy I made for the car, where I left off She's Got Rhythm, since I considered BW's vocals to be a virtually unbearable listening experience, and Hey Little Tomboy, which was such an embarrassing song that I didn't want to take the chance of any passengers hearing it and asking how I could possibly be a Beach Boys fan.  After listening to the cassette while driving toward the beach during a camping trip to Big Sur, I was surprised, while walking down to the beach, to encounter Al Jardine's ranch, with a sign "Jardine Arabians" indicating its presence.

So, 32 years later, what do I think of the album?  Well, there are still a number of songs I really enjoy, with my favorites being Kona Coast, Woncha Come Out Tonight, Belles of Paris, and My Diane.  And, with the exception of the two songs on the album that I've always found irritating, I still like the rest of the album.  In fact, I just popped the MIU/LA Light CD into the car to listen to tomorrow on the way to the Padres vs Cubs game.

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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 08:23:26 AM »

'Winds Of Change' is part of that beautiful Golden late-BBs era. I include 'Lady Lynda' and 'Sumahama' and 'Baby Blue' and 'Good Timin'' to this. These were very mature songs but with that same zest for life and love as their early stuff.

There is wonderful wisdom in these songs and I am so happy to have and enjoy them.

Who can not love 'Winds Of Change's coda with the gorgeous strings, harmonies and that snare drum. This is a beautiful song. Beautifully arranged and performed by all. Give it a go!!!
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 08:34:27 AM »

The Winds Of Change coda taken straight from When I Grow Up. Same thing with Kona Coast taken from the ending of Hawaii. It kind of shows you how badly they wanted the new album to sound similar to albums made in their hit making days.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 08:56:01 AM »

a long time ago, when i first for the MIU/LA two-fer, it was around christmas time and I had gotten sick, and I listen to that cd over and over...now it just reminds me of being sick...but it really comforted me.

Ha! Same thing happened to me, only it was a Donovan album....I LOVE the music, but I'm always reminded of the time I got really sick any time I listen to the album....  Sad
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 03:16:48 PM »

I only heard this album when the twofers were re-released and it actually got a good review in Q magazine (praising it at the expense of LA). I've liked it ever since, mainly perhaps because I think it makes the best of what it has better than any other BBs album of the era. For that I give a lot of credit to Al's job producing the vocals as, with Carl only making cameo appearances, fans might have expected it to be the worst sounding album in terms of vocals that the band had ever released.

Al's voice in particular sounds great on Pitter Patter, Kona Coast, Winds of Change and Come Go With Me. Mike also doesn't sound too nasal and Brian turns in his best performances of that era (except on She's Got Rhythm). Dennis's voice is used to good effect (although I guess it was recorded earlier) and the sequencing of his and Carl's contributions gives the record some balance.

Hey Little Tomboy certainly should have been omitted and Peggy Sue is a nothing cover but on the whole a decent album.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2010, 03:27:33 PM »

I disagree with you about Peggy Sue. Actually, it is one of the better tracks performance wise. It has Brian written all over it too. The arrangement and instrument choices are very close to a Love You type track. The refrain alone, which is terrific, is worth the listen. This one is anything but a "nothing cover..." as you call it.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 07:12:56 AM »

I disagree with you about Peggy Sue. Actually, it is one of the better tracks performance wise. It has Brian written all over it too. The arrangement and instrument choices are very close to a Love You type track. The refrain alone, which is terrific, is worth the listen. This one is anything but a "nothing cover..." as you call it.

Each to their own. I don't think that a song having Brian all over it was a guarantee of quality at this time though. And I would say it sounds more like a 15 Big Ones track (for obvious reasons) and that isn't that much of a complement. It's still better than many of the covers on that album though.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 10:11:23 AM »

I'd like it more if I could buy the twofer for a decent price, but...

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amazon.uk  58,99 GBP

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Huh??? I thought the 2-fers were still in print!!!
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 10:45:23 AM »

I'd like it more if I could buy the twofer for a decent price, but...

amazon.com  176,80 USD

amazon.de  not available

amazon.uk  58,99 GBP

amazon.fr  not available

No way...  Cry

Granted, you most likely wanted it in hard copy, but here's the link to the Mp3 version:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TDFKZI/sr=1-2/qid=1285796932/ref=sr_1_2_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1285796932&sr=1-2

Thats exactly what I did in my agony  Grin

I actually wanted the real thing with booklet and original CD but I missed buying it before it went out of print.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 11:48:56 AM »

I used to hate on MIU and would trash it relentlessly, but then the twofer with LA came out and I'd catch myself popping in the CD and getting ready to skip straight over to "Good Timin" but if I wasn't quick enough I'd get Brian yelling at me "Last night I went out Disco dancing" and I'd be hooked and have to listen to all of MIU!

Now I love the album!  Grin

Same experience many times.   But I don't really LOVE the album.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The refrain on pitter patter ruins that song.  Too bad.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 02:31:29 PM »

I'd like it more if I could buy the twofer for a decent price, but...

amazon.com  176,80 USD

amazon.de  not available

amazon.uk  58,99 GBP

amazon.fr  not available

No way...  Cry

Granted, you most likely wanted it in hard copy, but here's the link to the Mp3 version:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TDFKZI/sr=1-2/qid=1285796932/ref=sr_1_2_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1285796932&sr=1-2

Thats exactly what I did in my agony  Grin

I actually wanted the real thing with booklet and original CD but I missed buying it before it went out of print.

I read on another thread that they may be reissuing all this stuff soon, what with the 50th coming up - hence why some are going out of print and stores don't seem to have them anymore. But this also may mean there isn't much of a market for albums like Friends and Sunflower in the general population....
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 05:58:12 PM »

The refrain on pitter patter ruins that song.  Too bad.

But it's such a SWEET refrain!
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2010, 12:05:26 AM »

i like the album if only for brian's vocals. i also quite like winds of change: while over produced the melody is pretty special imo.
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2010, 02:58:42 AM »

i like the album if only for brian's vocals. i also quite like winds of change: while over produced the melody is pretty special imo.

WOC is very good. It's been often vilified, for various reasons. The overproduction, the quotation of 'when I grow up' in the end... but the melody is arch. I think Mercury Rev should record it.
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