Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[Ebb and Flow]

The track for "Sherry" was cut with the Wrecking Crew on March 29th, 1965...during sessions for Summer Days.  "Sandy" was cut later with the group on May 4th.

[Curtis Leon]

The track for "Sherry" was cut with the Wrecking Crew on March 29th, 1965...during sessions for Summer Days.  "Sandy" was cut later with the group on May 4th.

I thought that might've been the case. They both sound veeerrryy representative of Brian's production style during that period. Bright and clear.

Why Brian recorded two master takes of the same song, overdubbing one with backing vocals during the time, and then shelving both, only to bring the first one back during the 15 Big Ones sessions, overdubbing his own vocal onto it, and then shelving it again, only to attempt versions during both BW88 and Imagination, FINALLY releasing it on the latter, in a form different in just about every way from the very first recording, I'll never know. That tune in it's various forms basically covers every major "voice" Brian ever had, with "Sandy" containing his original, sweet falsetto in the tag, "Sherry" sung by the "smoker" Brian, "Terri" sung by the "shouty" Brian, and the final version, "She Says" in his latest, "old man" voice. I would be the least surprised out of anyone if there was a version with his IJWMFTT voice too.

[punkinhead]

The track for "Sherry" was cut with the Wrecking Crew on March 29th, 1965...during sessions for Summer Days.  "Sandy" was cut later with the group on May 4th.

I thought that might've been the case. They both sound veeerrryy representative of Brian's production style during that period. Bright and clear.

Why Brian recorded two master takes of the same song, overdubbing one with backing vocals during the time, and then shelving both, only to bring the first one back during the 15 Big Ones sessions, overdubbing his own vocal onto it, and then shelving it again, only to attempt versions during both BW88 and Imagination, FINALLY releasing it on the latter, in a form different in just about every way from the very first recording, I'll never know. That tune in it's various forms basically covers every major "voice" Brian ever had, with "Sandy" containing his original, sweet falsetto in the tag, "Sherry" sung by the "smoker" Brian, "Terri" sung by the "shouty" Brian, and the final version, "She Says" in his latest, "old man" voice. I would be the least surprised out of anyone if there was a version with his IJWMFTT voice too.

have you heard Terri she needs me? what backing track does it use? or is it a different production all together?

[Curtis Leon]

The track for "Sherry" was cut with the Wrecking Crew on March 29th, 1965...during sessions for Summer Days.  "Sandy" was cut later with the group on May 4th.

I thought that might've been the case. They both sound veeerrryy representative of Brian's production style during that period. Bright and clear.

Why Brian recorded two master takes of the same song, overdubbing one with backing vocals during the time, and then shelving both, only to bring the first one back during the 15 Big Ones sessions, overdubbing his own vocal onto it, and then shelving it again, only to attempt versions during both BW88 and Imagination, FINALLY releasing it on the latter, in a form different in just about every way from the very first recording, I'll never know. That tune in it's various forms basically covers every major "voice" Brian ever had, with "Sandy" containing his original, sweet falsetto in the tag, "Sherry" sung by the "smoker" Brian, "Terri" sung by the "shouty" Brian, and the final version, "She Says" in his latest, "old man" voice. I would be the least surprised out of anyone if there was a version with his IJWMFTT voice too.

have you heard Terri she needs me? what backing track does it use? or is it a different production all together?

As far as I know, it hasn't even been booted yet. If I could guess, it would probably be very similar to BW88's style of production. I'd be doubtful if it used any of the two original backing tracks, Brian's proved that he's quite willing to scrap a song and do it all over.

[punkinhead]

The track for "Sherry" was cut with the Wrecking Crew on March 29th, 1965...during sessions for Summer Days.  "Sandy" was cut later with the group on May 4th.

I thought that might've been the case. They both sound veeerrryy representative of Brian's production style during that period. Bright and clear.

Why Brian recorded two master takes of the same song, overdubbing one with backing vocals during the time, and then shelving both, only to bring the first one back during the 15 Big Ones sessions, overdubbing his own vocal onto it, and then shelving it again, only to attempt versions during both BW88 and Imagination, FINALLY releasing it on the latter, in a form different in just about every way from the very first recording, I'll never know. That tune in it's various forms basically covers every major "voice" Brian ever had, with "Sandy" containing his original, sweet falsetto in the tag, "Sherry" sung by the "smoker" Brian, "Terri" sung by the "shouty" Brian, and the final version, "She Says" in his latest, "old man" voice. I would be the least surprised out of anyone if there was a version with his IJWMFTT voice too.

have you heard Terri she needs me? what backing track does it use? or is it a different production all together?

As far as I know, it hasn't even been booted yet. If I could guess, it would probably be very similar to BW88's style of production. I'd be doubtful if it used any of the two original backing tracks, Brian's proved that he's quite willing to scrap a song and do it all over.

That's what I thought.

Actually, earlier in the car, I was thinking about this, and I sang it in my imitation of Brian from the 80s (BB85/BW88), and it made total sense that that's how he'd sing it.

[Jay]

I love "Sandy" and "Sherry She Needs Me", but I hate "She Says That She Needs Me". I hate the drums. They are mixed WAY to high, and they just suck, in general. I hate the weird change in the line "I don't know whether we're gonna be together". The "Sherry..." chorus makes more sense musically. But I DISPISE how at the end, the line "Sorry baby, it's time we..." is repeated three times. I have not heard this done in any Beach Boys song or any other Brian Wilson song(that I know of), so why should it be done here? It's just dumb.

[runnersdialzero]

But I DISPISE how at the end, the line "Sorry baby, it's time we..." is repeated three times. I have not heard this done in any Beach Boys song or any other Brian Wilson song(that I know of), so why should it be done here?

All songs should be the same.

[Bedroom Tapes]

What was "Walkin'" rewritten as later?  Like didn't that song evolve into something else?

[punkinhead]

What was "Walkin'" rewritten as later?  Like didn't that song evolve into something else?

Morning Beat

[Bedroom Tapes]

No, wasn't it an actual Beach Boys song?

[Mr. Cohen]

What's amazing about "Walkin'" is to think that this guy was recording songs like "Wonderful" only three years earlier. Not that "Walkin'" doesn't have some merit musically, but it's such a baffling transition. It makes me wonder if songs like this are the kind that  the rest of the BBs would "snicker" at, to quote Chuck Britz. He said that the BBs would laugh at some of the stuff Brian would bring into the studio after he his commercial peak had passed, as they felt that it was way beneath his level of talent.

[runnersdialzero]

What's amazing about "Walkin'" is to think that this guy was recording songs like "Wonderful" only three years earlier. Not that "Walkin'" doesn't have some merit musically, but it's such a baffling transition. It makes me wonder if songs like this are the kind that  the rest of the BBs would "snicker" at, to quote Chuck Britz. He said that the BBs would laugh at some of the stuff Brian would bring into the studio after he his commercial peak had passed, as they felt that it was way beneath his level of talent.

My respect for the group has been lowered ever so slightly. Unless Al or Mike had something as good as "'Til I Die" or "A Day in the Life of a Tree" stashed away, I don't think they have much room to be saying anything as, despite their great amount of talent, they'd probably have had careers pumping gas if not for Brian.

[punkinhead]

What's amazing about "Walkin'" is to think that this guy was recording songs like "Wonderful" only three years earlier. Not that "Walkin'" doesn't have some merit musically, but it's such a baffling transition. It makes me wonder if songs like this are the kind that  the rest of the BBs would "snicker" at, to quote Chuck Britz. He said that the BBs would laugh at some of the stuff Brian would bring into the studio after he his commercial peak had passed, as they felt that it was way beneath his level of talent.

My respect for the group has been lowered ever so slightly. Unless Al or Mike had something as good as "'Til I Die" or "A Day in the Life of a Tree" stashed away, I don't think they have much room to be saying anything as, despite their great amount of talent, they'd probably have had careers pumping gas if not for Brian.

and dentist!

[runnersdialzero]

What's amazing about "Walkin'" is to think that this guy was recording songs like "Wonderful" only three years earlier. Not that "Walkin'" doesn't have some merit musically, but it's such a baffling transition. It makes me wonder if songs like this are the kind that  the rest of the BBs would "snicker" at, to quote Chuck Britz. He said that the BBs would laugh at some of the stuff Brian would bring into the studio after he his commercial peak had passed, as they felt that it was way beneath his level of talent.

My respect for the group has been lowered ever so slightly. Unless Al or Mike had something as good as "'Til I Die" or "A Day in the Life of a Tree" stashed away, I don't think they have much room to be saying anything as, despite their great amount of talent, they'd probably have had careers pumping gas if not for Brian.

and dentist!

I've been laying on my back
Like a freight train off a track
Trying to find a job to fit my trade...

[hypehat]

Is the version of This Song Wants To Sleep With You Tonight on the Do It Again single dramatically different than the version I've got on Landylocked, or shall i not bother trying to hunt one down?

[The Heartical Don]

Is the version of This Song Wants To Sleep With You Tonight on the Do It Again single dramatically different than the version I've got on Landylocked, or shall i not bother trying to hunt one down?

IIRC there is but one version.

[Mike's Beard]

I thought "Walkin'" was more of Al's tune.

[bgas]

I thought "Walkin'" was more of Al's tune.

because he's so short?

[Mike's Beard]

I thought "Walkin'" was more of Al's tune.

because he's so short?

  In a world populated by midgets, Al would rule supreme.

[Mr. Cohen]

and dentist!

Which brings up one of my favorite scenes from An American Family. After the band gets $200 a piece for an early surfing song (or for signing with Capitol... it was something like that, anyway), everyone looks really excited except Al. Cut to the next scene, and Al is in his car explaining how he's going back to school. Then, Brian screams, in an accusatory voice, the best line in the movie: "You still want be a dentist, don't you?"

[Andrew G. Doe]

and dentist!

Which brings up one of my favorite scenes from An American Family. After the band gets $200 a piece for an early surfing song (or for signing with Capitol... it was something like that, anyway), everyone looks really excited except Al. Cut to the next scene, and Al is in his car explaining how he's going back to school. Then, Brian screams, in an accusatory voice, the best line in the movie: "You still want be a dentist, don't you?"

That was indeed a cool line. Inaccurate, but cool.  My #1 was Murry's "Mike dear, you're sounding a little nasal". It's a lot funnier if you know the backstory about the movie's production history. 

[Mike's Beard]

Chewing out Mike for sounding nasal would be like criticizing Lassie for barking.

[punkinhead]

Is the version of This Song Wants To Sleep With You Tonight on the Do It Again single dramatically different than the version I've got on Landylocked, or shall i not bother trying to hunt one down?

I've heard it on quite a few rarities packages...I feel like there's a different beginning or it's more sudden at the beginning. idk what it is...it doesn't sound too good for a soft tune as such.

[The Heartical Don]

Chewing out Mike for sounding nasal would be like criticizing Lassie for barking.

  what a way to start the day...

[Andrew G. Doe]

Is the version of This Song Wants To Sleep With You Tonight on the Do It Again single dramatically different than the version I've got on Landylocked, or shall i not bother trying to hunt one down?

I've heard it on quite a few rarities packages...I feel like there's a different beginning or it's more sudden at the beginning. idk what it is...it doesn't sound too good for a soft tune as such.

I've only ever heard the one version - in varying levels of audio quality, granted, but just the one.