Feel Flows box set

[Custom Machine]

Well Do it Again has origins back to Hawthorne Blvd. and that itself reminds me of a song by the Frogmen .. the name escapes me... but Mike could still technically be right if he had a hand in Hawthorne Blvd - but let’s be real here.

A mild resemblance to "Underwater" by The Frogmen.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xN8RgVFoBY

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Well Do it Again has origins back to Hawthorne Blvd. and that itself reminds me of a song by the Frogmen .. the name escapes me... but Mike could still technically be right if he had a hand in Hawthorne Blvd - but let’s be real here.

The Frogmen song is called Underwater

https://youtu.be/3xN8RgVFoBY

Truth be told it’s a bit of a stretch..i hear more of A Thing or Two personally

[chrism1971]

  as is often the case with the Brits, is way too glib-

A bit of a generalisation, methinketh.  I hope you're only talking about the music mag journos.

[Dan Lega]

I'm pretty sure everything else I've read about "Do It Again" says that Mike came up with the lyrical idea of the song, brought it to Brian, and together they worked out the song, with Brian writing the music.  I don't think there is any reason to overcomplicate it.  I don't think either Brian or Mike have told exactly how it went down.  And unless they do I don't know what speculating is going to accomplish.


Love and merci,
Dan Lega

[juggler]

Never mind asking Brian and Mike about Do It Again. Has anyone asked Bill Jackson???

[thetojo]

Okay, now we're back to Feel Flows talk, since at least one version of Marcella will be on this box set, does that mean we get to hear Beatrice From Baltimore. Does it have separate lyrics/vocals, or is it just a working title for You Need A Mess Of Help?

[joe_blow]

Never mind asking Brian and Mike about Do It Again. Has anyone asked Bill Jackson???

I have been asking for information on Bill Jackson for years now! I think in one interview Mike gave Bill a slightly different name.
Bill, are you out there?

[Tom]

Here Comes the Night also feels like a slight precursor to Do It Again. And of course the chorus falsetto melody started as a new organ line that Brian wrote for Surfin in Hawaii '67.

[juggler]

Never mind asking Brian and Mike about Do It Again. Has anyone asked Bill Jackson???

I have been asking for information on Bill Jackson for years now! I think in one interview Mike gave Bill a slightly different name.
Bill, are you out there?

Admittedly, it's  ridiculous, but I just went on classmates.com and checked out the Dorsey High Class of '59 yearbook... and there he is on the top of p. 96... Bill Jackson.

[joe_blow]

Fantastic!

[Don Malcolm]

  as is often the case with the Brits, is way too glib-

A bit of a generalisation, methinketh.  I hope you're only talking about the music mag journos.

Yes, referring to the journos, not to the entire citizenry!

Never mind asking Brian and Mike about Do It Again. Has anyone asked Bill Jackson???

I have been asking for information on Bill Jackson for years now! I think in one interview Mike gave Bill a slightly different name.
Bill, are you out there?

Well, THIS thread has everything you never wanted to know about Bill Jackson:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=7531.0

But wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be THIS Bill Jackson?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/books/2017/01/17/jackson-takes-pride-diverse-cast-lion-winter/96646462/

After you check out the link, you probably won't be holding your breath...

I'm pretty sure everything else I've read about "Do It Again" says that Mike came up with the lyrical idea of the song, brought it to Brian, and together they worked out the song, with Brian writing the music.  I don't think there is any reason to overcomplicate it.  I don't think either Brian or Mike have told exactly how it went down.  And unless they do I don't know what speculating is going to accomplish.

Love and merci,
Dan Lega

Speculating is what many of us are here for, Dan...and the idea that Mike might have written a melody for his lyrics isn't on the level of a quadratic equation, now, is it?

Okay, now we're back to Feel Flows talk, since at least one version of Marcella will be on this box set, does that mean we get to hear Beatrice From Baltimore. Does it have separate lyrics/vocals, or is it just a working title for You Need A Mess Of Help?

The semi-official word is that no one preserved a copy of the song with the original lyrics, but you never know. What has been speculated (there I go again!) as being the first verse of "Beatrice" has circulated ever since David Leaf's first edition of his BB bio, and they do scan with the melody, but they do seem a bit too tongue-in-cheeky to, shall we say, "stand alone."

That said, I'm sure many are hoping against hope that there's a still a demo with those lyrics on it and that it might show up--but I'm not sure if it's "eligible" to be on FEEL FLOWS.

[juggler]

  as is often the case with the Brits, is way too glib-

A bit of a generalisation, methinketh.  I hope you're only talking about the music mag journos.

Yes, referring to the journos, not to the entire citizenry!

Never mind asking Brian and Mike about Do It Again. Has anyone asked Bill Jackson???

I have been asking for information on Bill Jackson for years now! I think in one interview Mike gave Bill a slightly different name.
Bill, are you out there?

Well, THIS thread has everything you never wanted to know about Bill Jackson:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=7531.0

But wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be THIS Bill Jackson?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/books/2017/01/17/jackson-takes-pride-diverse-cast-lion-winter/96646462/

After you check out the link, you probably won't be holding your breath...

All joking aside, until yesterday, I truly thought Bill Jackson was a made-up friend in a made-up story.  Let's face it.  The name sounds like something a guy would sign in a hotel guest book as he checked in with his mistress.   But, damn, then I saw that there really was a Bill Jackson at Dorsey High with Mike Love in 1959... and, you know, he looks like he could be surfer... so why not?  Maybe the story is more or less true, and everything happened pretty the way Mike Love said it did.    I'm kind reminded of the Tim Burton film "Big Fish."   

[SunshineTomorrow]

"Live in 1970" uploaded today to the official YouTube page? Not available for me though.

Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nT6i9gnGVfpzznoABAOX9tATiPJPAiFIA

[guitarfool2002]

"Live in 1970" uploaded today to the official YouTube page? Not available for me though.

Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nT6i9gnGVfpzznoABAOX9tATiPJPAiFIA

Yes indeed, 74 (count 'em) live tracks from '70 showing up on the official BB YouTube channel but all tagged "unavailable".

[Rocker]

"Live in 1970" uploaded today to the official YouTube page? Not available for me though.

Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nT6i9gnGVfpzznoABAOX9tATiPJPAiFIA

It's nothing "official" I guess as it mixes soundboard and audience recordings. Don't know why it's on that channel.

[sloopjohnb72]

"Live in 1970" uploaded today to the official YouTube page? Not available for me though.

Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nT6i9gnGVfpzznoABAOX9tATiPJPAiFIA

It's nothing "official" I guess as it mixes soundboard and audience recordings. Don't know why it's on that channel.

That channel automatically uploads any "releases" by the band, including stuff like this and the Surfin' Safari re-releases. Someone's obviously just taken advantage of the copyright on these recordings being expired in the EU due to the lack of their release in 2020. It's just someone's bootleg collection now "legally" released, featuring an ad in the middle of an intro - https://youtu.be/dWha_Z19_SA

[37!ws]

Many of these tracks have significantly better sound quality (albeit not great) than what was ever bootlegged.

[Jim V.]

  as is often the case with the Brits, is way too glib-

A bit of a generalisation, methinketh.  I hope you're only talking about the music mag journos.

Yes, referring to the journos, not to the entire citizenry!

Never mind asking Brian and Mike about Do It Again. Has anyone asked Bill Jackson???

I have been asking for information on Bill Jackson for years now! I think in one interview Mike gave Bill a slightly different name.
Bill, are you out there?

Well, THIS thread has everything you never wanted to know about Bill Jackson:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=7531.0

But wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be THIS Bill Jackson?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/books/2017/01/17/jackson-takes-pride-diverse-cast-lion-winter/96646462/

After you check out the link, you probably won't be holding your breath...

All joking aside, until yesterday, I truly thought Bill Jackson was a made-up friend in a made-up story.  Let's face it.  The name sounds like something a guy would sign in a hotel guest book as he checked in with his mistress.   But, damn, then I saw that there really was a Bill Jackson at Dorsey High with Mike Love in 1959... and, you know, he looks like he could be surfer... so why not?  Maybe the story is more or less true, and everything happened pretty the way Mike Love said it did.    I'm kind reminded of the Tim Burton film "Big Fish."   

Same. I always thought Mike was full of sh*t on that one. But maybe he was telling the truth this whole time.

[Awesoman]

"Live in 1970" uploaded today to the official YouTube page? Not available for me though.

Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nT6i9gnGVfpzznoABAOX9tATiPJPAiFIA

It's nothing "official" I guess as it mixes soundboard and audience recordings. Don't know why it's on that channel.

I'm unable to play any of those tracks.  Looks like someone shut them down...

[37!ws]

BTW, one workaround to be able to play the tracks: use one of those online YouTube-to-MP3/MP4 converters.

[TonyW]

BTW, one workaround to be able to play the tracks: use one of those online YouTube-to-MP3/MP4 converters.

Tried ... didn't work for me.

[JonEverett]

Would it be allowed to upload the Live 1970 tracks here?
Jon

[37!ws]

Probably not: like it or not, these things are official now. (And they're for sale on European download sites now, including Amazon. And they're on Spotify.) Plus, admins frown on trading even unofficial stuff on this site, understandably.

[guitarfool2002]

Correct, please don't post direct links to download that kind of thing here.

[humanoidboogie]

I’ve only listened to the first 14 songs in that playlist so far, and that’s Big Sur 1970 in quality similar (or perhaps the same) to Vigotone’s GSHG set but with the missing songs patched in from a common low-quality source. If this is an official ”release”, they sure don’t make a lot of effort but are probably just grabbing the nearest available bootleg sources. 😢