NY Observer: 'Beyond the Life of Brian: The Myth of the ‘Lesser’ Beach Boys'

[HeyJude]

Still...that said...There was an emptiness factor to the Brian concert I saw in Detroit.  From what I've read people have been marginally dishonest about the performance factors contained there-in.  Brian was NOT on what I'd guess would have been his game-plan.  Songs were not delivered as they were originally intended to sound.  Boats were missed...and the 'magic factor' was missing too.  The backing musicians were poised as props instead of how they have been presented over these past baker's dozen plus years...ie: as Brian's band.

Brian just doesn't have the stamina to deliver a full show on his own anymore.  He can muster the where-withall to record a song or two in a day...but all of THOSE songs?  Even with Al, and Blondie and Darian and Matt taking some of the leads Brian was hard pressed to deliver everything he tried to bring to the table.  And I DO NOT blame him one iota for trying.

Matt's falsetto sounds almost contrived...almost cartoonish.  Mixing his voice with Brian's in order to 'make' the notes didn't work.  At least it didn't work for me.

At least with Brian there is the possibility of there being more to come OUT OF THE STUDIO.  Live?  He's past his expirey date.  It's too much for him to do anmore.  I love him as a soul.  I depend on his musical expertise in terms of the soundtrack which has played over these past 53 years of my life.  And...I wish him nothing but happiness and loads of roses to smell.  I am, I'm sorry to say, going to have to go with what I heard in Detroit as the truth.  It wasn't terrible.  It just wasn't up to the Brian Wilson standard.

I’m the first to acknowledge that Brian fans can sometimes be too forgiving, and all of that. I’ve been the first to point out the shortcomings of Brian shows over the years. As was mentioned awhile back, there have been a few “Weekend at Bernie’s” moments over the years.

But Brian in 2015 in the show I saw in person and most of the clips I’ve seen, has been different on this tour. Other than a super upbeat Brian I caught in 2000 on the PS tour (a recording of the show proves how energetic and upbeat he was at the show), the 2015 show was the most serene, upbeat, and loose Brian I’ve seen on tour, and a lot of that has to do with the band creating that comfort zone for him. It’s also helping that, unlike a slightly politics-laden stint in 2006/2007, Brian now also seems to feel Al also provides comfort and cushioning for him.

I think an argument can be made (though I don’t agree with it) about whether Brian should be touring. What I don’t agree with is the idea that there is some sort of HUGE fundamental difference in 2015 versus 1999. The shows now aren’t any weirder or sketchy than they were in 1999. The only hugely noticeable change, other than having Al (and Blondie) in the band, that I noticed in 2015 is that Brian seems to be much more “up.”

As for Mike’s band, aside from the all the politics and backbiting and all of that, a surprisingly lesser-discussed functional aspect here of why he seems to have up and down nights vocally is that he tours INCESSANTLY. Look at his July and August touring schedule. They’re doing runs of 10-14 nights in a row without a day off, runs of numerous weeks with only a day or two off here and there. Mike’s voice holds up surprisingly well considering his age and this rugged touring schedule. But his voice would be in even better shape if he shaved some of the tour dates back. Maybe he feels like he can do it because he’s able to hand off a number of leads to other guys.

[rab2591]

LOVE: No, I have not.

JOHNSTON: Who has time?

LOVE: We are going to end up doing about 165 shows this year.

JOHNSTON: I’m hoping I can see it on the airplane.

LOVE: Well, I think anytime they spell your name right it’s good for business, isn’t that what they say? Yes, there’s a lot of emotion about it, a lot of talk about it, but it’s a story of an aspect of Brian’s life—maybe not the most joyful one, or the most fun part of his life, but nonetheless… it’s about an aspect of his life.

Yeah and most of the fans who saw Love and Mercy don't have a 40 hour work week, don't have stresses and responsibilities to take care of. Are you fucking kidding me? Just come out and say it: aside from potentially having your name tarnished, you could give a f*** less about the movie.

You, swept away on a trail of Alex Chilton-flavored pixie dust by the legend of wronged Brian Wilson and a belief in the ultimate superiority of all flawed geniuses to any other type of artists, say that Mike Love is a douche

Geeeee I wonder why. http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22399.0.html

I say that he has kept alive the legacy of one of America’s greatest bands

Great legacy we're keeping alive here folks - https://youtu.be/u5AhcMhze1Q?t=36

“By the way,” Johnston chimes in, “he plays a 100-year-old accordion on ‘Kokomo.’ ”

“That certainly gives a lie to this idea that we don’t like Van Dyke,”

So that plane bill you stuck Van with after the SIP sessions was what? A birthday present?

1967 and 1973, the largely Brian-less Beach Boys

What an absolute joke of an article.

Smiley Smile - all Brian Wilson involvement
Wild Honey - all Brian Wilson involvement
Friends - most if not all Brian Wilson involvement
20/20 - half Brian Wilson involvement
Sunflower - most songs have Brian Wilson involvement
Surf's Up - probably the greatest sequence of 3 songs to close out an album, all Brian Wilson tracks.
CATPs - Side one full of Brian tracks
Holland - record company wouldn't touch it without a Brian track, and it became a staple post-fun-era Beach Boys song.

If you're going to act all-knowing and pretend to have some opinion people should listen to, please for the love of god do some damn research before you release an article like this.

Mike Love—and by extension, Bruce Johnston—shouldn’t have to spend his whole freaking life apologizing because he’s not Brian Wilson.

Nor is he perhaps he should spend a little bit of his time apologizing to Brian Wilson for all the tactless comments he's made throughout the past 3 years about his cousin.

Brian’s actual participation in the proceedings does not seem strictly necessary, and that makes the whole thing a slightly odd endeavor.

If I didn't want to see the full trainwreck of this article, I would stop reading this right here. Firstly, Brian fans go to see Brian fucking Wilson. Why? Because we GET IT. We get that the music isn't about a cheerleader grinding up on a guitar player. We get that the music isn't about blowing up beach balls to hurl around the audience. It's about fucking art. It's about spirituality. It's about closing your eyes and being taken to a place (oh well Mike or Bruce wouldn't understand that reference would they). We go to Brian shows to see the artist, to hear him sing the songs he made. When I saw Brian at Philly, he gave the biggest most genuine smile, and f*** it, that right there made my night. I could've left right then happy as ever.

It may be slightly odd to you, Tim Sommer, but to fans who feel spirituality in that music, we see what Brian adds to his shows and see nothing odd about him sitting there singing his tunes.

The affection between Love and Brian Wilson seems very real,

Tell us again, Mike, your cousin is what? Oh your words exactly: "overweight and out of shape, and he doesn’t seem to pay much attention" Love and affection to it's fullest, ladies and gentlemen.

I have nothing but awe and respect for Brian’s musical abilities

Tell me the interviewer asked if Mike has listened to No Pier Pressure yet! Oh wait, the interviewer probably didn't want Mike to go on a 10 minute diatribe about people being afraid to fly and potential autotune hazards on a song he hasn't heard yet....

What a trash article. Perfectly showcases the ignorance and utter depths Mike apologists will go to make Mike look like a real great guy.

[HeyJude]

This is an interesting idea for an article. Mike was bitter as usual, but Bruce had some interesting things to say

Where does Mike come across bitter?

Mike does sometimes come across as bitter in interviews. I wouldn’t say anything in this one was particularly bitter. But I do think there’s usually some defensiveness at play. As with this article in general, sometimes that defensiveness seems relatively unprompted, which doesn’t help Mike come off particularly well. I get the sense sometimes that he’s like a politician at a debate who has stopped listening to his opponent as his opponent talks, and is writing a bunch of counterarguments down based on what he assumes will be said about him. Then, he goes into his counterargument even though he’s countering a number of points nobody was making in the first place.

[HeyJude]

LOVE: No, I have not.

JOHNSTON: Who has time?

LOVE: We are going to end up doing about 165 shows this year.

JOHNSTON: I’m hoping I can see it on the airplane.

LOVE: Well, I think anytime they spell your name right it’s good for business, isn’t that what they say? Yes, there’s a lot of emotion about it, a lot of talk about it, but it’s a story of an aspect of Brian’s life—maybe not the most joyful one, or the most fun part of his life, but nonetheless… it’s about an aspect of his life.

Yeah and most of the fans who saw Love and Mercy don't have a 40 hour work week, don't have stresses and responsibilities to take care of. Are you fucking kidding me? Just come out and say it: aside from potentially having your name tarnished, you could give a f*** less about the movie.

I’ve sometimes sensed it’s the exact opposite when it comes to the idea of Mike or Bruce not listening to a new Brian album or seeing the L&M movie. Sort of like not looking up your old high school classmates or your ex for fear that you’ll find out how great they’re doing or how much other people like them.

[rab2591]

LOVE: No, I have not.

JOHNSTON: Who has time?

LOVE: We are going to end up doing about 165 shows this year.

JOHNSTON: I’m hoping I can see it on the airplane.

LOVE: Well, I think anytime they spell your name right it’s good for business, isn’t that what they say? Yes, there’s a lot of emotion about it, a lot of talk about it, but it’s a story of an aspect of Brian’s life—maybe not the most joyful one, or the most fun part of his life, but nonetheless… it’s about an aspect of his life.

Yeah and most of the fans who saw Love and Mercy don't have a 40 hour work week, don't have stresses and responsibilities to take care of. Are you fucking kidding me? Just come out and say it: aside from potentially having your name tarnished, you could give a f*** less about the movie.

I’ve sometimes sensed it’s the exact opposite when it comes to the idea of Mike or Bruce not listening to a new Brian album or seeing the L&M movie. Sort of like not looking up your old high school classmates or your ex for fear that you’ll find out how great they’re doing or how much other people like them.

That could very well be the case. I have no doubt it has to do with jealousy, or fear of seeing his former colleague garner a good deal of success....if that isn't the case, he should probably listen to his cousin's work before saying crap like "I have nothing but awe and respect for Brian’s musical abilities"

[Lee Marshall]

Hey...Jude...   Brian had just played Toronto the night before and it's a bit of a jaunt from Downtown Toronto the the under reconstructed downtown Detroit.  Someone, somewhere, suggested recently that you'll get a better show from Brian AFTER a FULL day off.  I didn't have that luxury.  There's no mailing it in in Toronto.

Rodriquez was entertaining but maybe his participation stole some of the time Brian et al could have made some creative use of?

Mike should avoid overwrking/overbooking too.  The older you get...the more a nap comes in handy.  Really.

For me it's a necessity.

[guitarfool2002]

Of course when you interview Mike Love and Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys you’re going to have to ask them if they’ve seen Love and Mercy.

LOVE: No, I have not.

JOHNSTON: Who has time?

LOVE: We are going to end up doing about 165 shows this year.

JOHNSTON: I’m hoping I can see it on the airplane.

LOVE: Well, I think anytime they spell your name right it’s good for business, isn’t that what they say? Yes, there’s a lot of emotion about it, a lot of talk about it, but it’s a story of an aspect of Brian’s life—maybe not the most joyful one, or the most fun part of his life, but nonetheless… it’s about an aspect of his life.

http://www.examiner.com/article/lower-east-side-film-fest-with-beach-boys-mike-love-as-a-judge-coming-soon

Beach Boys co-founder Mike Love is looking forward to being one of the judges in the Lower East Side Film Festival when it opens June 11 and runs through June 21.

“It’s another aspect of of entertainment than what I’m used to, primarily being involved with the Beach Boys for five decades now,” the legendary singer said in an interview with the Examiner.com. “I just thought it would be pretty interesting to do.”

He is also looking forward to being back in New York, noting that “New York’s been a real source of amazement and entertainment over the years.”

The fifth annual celebration of movies “supports low budget filmmakers from around the world and … showcases exceptional films made exclusively on the cheap, all in the heart of Manhattan's Lower East Side.” Some of the eclectic offerings include theme nights, such as: NYC Filmmakers Night and Lasagna Night — Filmmaker Reception, during which attendees can eat, drink, and mingle with this year’s featured filmmakers.

One theme night that will be of particular interest to Love is Music Video Night, on June 20 at the Village East Cinema (189 Second Avenue) — “Snakes, sausage fingers, acid trips, speed boats, and trips to the moon - all to set to tunes that will be stuck in your head for the rest of the night. In a GOOOOD way.” Unlike the fare that used to be found on the likes of MTV and VH1, some of the videos in this showcase include: “Acid Boots”: “A music video about a man’s descent into insanity on the streets of East London” and “Marooned”: “A 1950's Science Fiction about the destruction of Earth's resources, and the launch of a [sic] elite, secret, military spacecraft.”

Some of the other judges this year are Emmy-nominated actress Laverne Cox; movie and television actress Parker Posey; and Jacob Blackstock, co-founder and CEO of the internet app Bitstrips.

Although the Beach Boys singer is looking forward to viewing the “diversity and creativity in the more independent films,” his favorite movies are biographies. “I’ve always been most interested in biographies and autobiographies, showing me human stories,” he said. “There are numerous, fantastic other types of films, but those are often so poignant because they’re real people with real life experiences.”

Of the diverse offerings at the LESFF, Love is eager to see “A Brave Heart: The Lizzie Velasquez Story.” “I read on social media about that one, ‘A Brave Heart,’ and that’s a very touching story. The whole bullying thing has been so emblazoned on our consciousness in the last few years, so it’s great that they brought this to film,” he said.



http://bedfordandbowery.com/2015/06/mike-love-of-beach-boys-on-love-mercy-poor-brian-hes-had-a-rough-rough-time/

Mike Love of Beach Boys On Love & Mercy: ‘Poor Brian, He’s Had a Rough, Rough Time’

June 10, 2015
By Sam Gillette

When the Lower East Side Film Festival starts Thursday, Mike Love of the Beach Boys will be one of six judges. Love, who co-wrote and sang lead vocals on hits like “California Girls,” “I Get Around,” and “Fun, Fun, Fun,” tells us he’s watched over a dozen films in preparation for the 10-day fest, but one film he says he hasn’t yet had a chance to see is Love & Mercy, the newly released biopic about his cousin and former bandmate Brian Wilson. Still, when we spoke to him Monday, Love addressed some of the band drama (or lack thereof?) depicted in the film. And before he raced off to create “excitations” in his audience (50 years later, the Beach Boys continue to spread good vibes on tour, with Love as MC), he also filled us in on a book that will tell his own story.



 

[John Manning]

Naughty Mike, not going to see Love & Mercy. What we going to do, folks, stick him in detention? 

Does he even get a choice? Guy lived through much of what takes place in the movie… Christ knows what emotions he has invested in living through some of that. Maybe he'd rather get on with his life today.

Not the best written piece by a long chalk but I get the impression that bridges are being mended here and there.

Brian, Mike and the Boys are not quite the people they were back in the ’60s-’90s… Fans will alway be antagonised by what they say, will always be offended on behalf of their heroes but at the end of the day their personal differences are f* all to do with us.

[Cam Mott]

So Mike and Bruce had all of these other commitments, doesn't that answer why didn't they go see a movie yet?

[SMiLE Brian]

Mike is going out of his way to avoid anything BW is being successful at, whether it be the movie or the singles from NPP. He is a bitter old coot bordering on f*ckwit at times.

[Lee Marshall]

at the end of the day their personal differences are f* all to do with us.

Bullshit.  What a 'pile'.  Once 'it' goes public and in an interview intended to reach us via air-waves or in print it has everything to do with us.  What a cop-out.  If ANY of them want to be assholes in private...it's not my business.  Once they reach out and touch me with it?  I'm IN on it.  Sure they haven't seen the movie yet.  I'll finish the way I started.  Bullshit.

[CenturyDeprived]

Mike is going out of his way to avoid anything BW is being successful at, whether it be the movie or the singles from NPP. He is a bitter old coot bordering on f*ckwit at times.

You can bet that if Brian recorded a BW version of a Mike Love solo track and included that track on NPP, that Mike would have found the time to give it a listen.

The guy has time when he wants to have time.  Just like all of us. In this case, Mike only finds time when the project he's gonna invest time in viewing/listening to is going to make him feel better about himself and his role of importance in the BB saga.

Mike will seemingly never check out any non-Mike related Brian Wilson product for selfless reasons. It's sad. Now, would Brian? Well, if Mike had some major products going that had gotten TONS of major press, and were the talk of the town, so to speak, I'd have a hard time believing that he wouldn't check out the Mike projects on his own.

[startBBtoday]

This is an interesting idea for an article. Mike was bitter as usual, but Bruce had some interesting things to say

Where does Mike come across bitter?

Mike does sometimes come across as bitter in interviews. I wouldn’t say anything in this one was particularly bitter. But I do think there’s usually some defensiveness at play. As with this article in general, sometimes that defensiveness seems relatively unprompted, which doesn’t help Mike come off particularly well. I get the sense sometimes that he’s like a politician at a debate who has stopped listening to his opponent as his opponent talks, and is writing a bunch of counterarguments down based on what he assumes will be said about him. Then, he goes into his counterargument even though he’s countering a number of points nobody was making in the first place.

Nate said he came across as bitter in this article. I'm not seeing it.

I can understand giving Mike crap when he says something he "probably" shouldn't, but with many examples of Mike putting his foot in his mouth, why make it up when it's not warranted? Mike had nothing but praise for Brian in what he was quoted as saying in this article.

“We used to laugh, falling down laughing, and sing,” Mike Love remembers, “Brian would come over to my house and sing Everly Brothers songs or doo-wop songs and we’d learn Four Freshmen arrangements. I never remember a time when there wasn’t music in our family. The first time I remember him singing, was him singing ‘Danny Boy’ in my grandmother Wilson’s lap. So we go back… we’ve known each other all our lives, and there’s a tremendous amount of love and respect and rapport with each other, to the point where inane humor and 100 percent dedication and devotion to music is what we have in common. So if there’s anything that sounds divisive there, well, I have nothing but awe and respect for Brian’s musical abilities, and love for him as a person, as a cousin, as a family member. Strip away all the misconceptions and the divisiveness and that’s how it is.”

Real bitter.

[John Manning]

at the end of the day their personal differences are f* all to do with us.

Bullshit.  What a 'pile'.  Once 'it' goes public and in an interview intended to reach us via air-waves or in print it has everything to do with us.  What a cop-out.  If ANY of them want to be assholes in private...it's not my business.  Once they reach out and touch me with it?  I'm IN on it.  Sure they haven't seen the movie yet.  I'll finish the way I started.  Bullshit.

Don't rant at me – go confront Mike, he's the one you have the issue with.

[Lee Marshall]

at the end of the day their personal differences are f* all to do with us.

Bullshit.  What a 'pile'.  Once 'it' goes public and in an interview intended to reach us via air-waves or in print it has everything to do with us.  What a cop-out.  If ANY of them want to be assholes in private...it's not my business.  Once they reach out and touch me with it?  I'm IN on it.  Sure they haven't seen the movie yet.  I'll finish the way I started.  Bullshit.

Don't rant at me – go confront Mike, he's the one you have the issue with.

I don't have a issue with Mike.  I have an issue with BULLSHIT.  Always have.  Always will.  It's too hot to be wearing hip-waders.

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

LOVE: No, I have not.

JOHNSTON: Who has time?

LOVE: We are going to end up doing about 165 shows this year.

JOHNSTON: I’m hoping I can see it on the airplane.

LOVE: Well, I think anytime they spell your name right it’s good for business, isn’t that what they say? Yes, there’s a lot of emotion about it, a lot of talk about it, but it’s a story of an aspect of Brian’s life—maybe not the most joyful one, or the most fun part of his life, but nonetheless… it’s about an aspect of his life.

Yeah and most of the fans who saw Love and Mercy don't have a 40 hour work week, don't have stresses and responsibilities to take care of. Are you fucking kidding me? Just come out and say it: aside from potentially having your name tarnished, you could give a f*** less about the movie.

You, swept away on a trail of Alex Chilton-flavored pixie dust by the legend of wronged Brian Wilson and a belief in the ultimate superiority of all flawed geniuses to any other type of artists, say that Mike Love is a douche

Geeeee I wonder why. http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22399.0.html

I say that he has kept alive the legacy of one of America’s greatest bands

Great legacy we're keeping alive here folks - https://youtu.be/u5AhcMhze1Q?t=36

“By the way,” Johnston chimes in, “he plays a 100-year-old accordion on ‘Kokomo.’ ”

“That certainly gives a lie to this idea that we don’t like Van Dyke,”

So that plane bill you stuck Van with after the SIP sessions was what? A birthday present?

1967 and 1973, the largely Brian-less Beach Boys

What an absolute joke of an article.

Smiley Smile - all Brian Wilson involvement
Wild Honey - all Brian Wilson involvement
Friends - most if not all Brian Wilson involvement
20/20 - half Brian Wilson involvement
Sunflower - most songs have Brian Wilson involvement
Surf's Up - probably the greatest sequence of 3 songs to close out an album, all Brian Wilson tracks.
CATPs - Side one full of Brian tracks
Holland - record company wouldn't touch it without a Brian track, and it became a staple post-fun-era Beach Boys song.

If you're going to act all-knowing and pretend to have some opinion people should listen to, please for the love of god do some damn research before you release an article like this.

Mike Love—and by extension, Bruce Johnston—shouldn’t have to spend his whole freaking life apologizing because he’s not Brian Wilson.

Nor is he perhaps he should spend a little bit of his time apologizing to Brian Wilson for all the tactless comments he's made throughout the past 3 years about his cousin.

Brian’s actual participation in the proceedings does not seem strictly necessary, and that makes the whole thing a slightly odd endeavor.

If I didn't want to see the full trainwreck of this article, I would stop reading this right here. Firstly, Brian fans go to see Brian fucking Wilson. Why? Because we GET IT. We get that the music isn't about a cheerleader grinding up on a guitar player. We get that the music isn't about blowing up beach balls to hurl around the audience. It's about fucking art. It's about spirituality. It's about closing your eyes and being taken to a place (oh well Mike or Bruce wouldn't understand that reference would they). We go to Brian shows to see the artist, to hear him sing the songs he made. When I saw Brian at Philly, he gave the biggest most genuine smile, and f*** it, that right there made my night. I could've left right then happy as ever.

It may be slightly odd to you, Tim Sommer, but to fans who feel spirituality in that music, we see what Brian adds to his shows and see nothing odd about him sitting there singing his tunes.

The affection between Love and Brian Wilson seems very real,

Tell us again, Mike, your cousin is what? Oh your words exactly: "overweight and out of shape, and he doesn’t seem to pay much attention" Love and affection to it's fullest, ladies and gentlemen.

I have nothing but awe and respect for Brian’s musical abilities

Tell me the interviewer asked if Mike has listened to No Pier Pressure yet! Oh wait, the interviewer probably didn't want Mike to go on a 10 minute diatribe about people being afraid to fly and potential autotune hazards on a song he hasn't heard yet....

What a trash article. Perfectly showcases the ignorance and utter depths Mike apologists will go to make Mike look like a real great guy.

    Thank you for the machine gunning down of that sorry piece of sh*t article. myKe luHv should have been chained to an uncomfortable chair and forced to see Brian's show in Philly and then, while chained up, eat a generous serving of crow ala maharishi. He should also be called out as a genuine liar about seeing the movie. Don't believe for a myKe luHv minute that he hasn't seen it-you bet he's seen it and was knocked out by it but won't talk about it. Pure douchebaggery for sure. luHv will leave a legacy alright-that of a sad angry, jealous egomaniac who was extremely fortunate to be related to one of the greatest songwriters of all time.

[SMiLE Brian]

OSD can you interview M&B before they play that show right next to your house?

[Mike's Beard]

I wonder if people gave Brian this much crap for taking decades to listen to POB?

[CenturyDeprived]

I wonder if people gave Brian this much crap for taking decades to listen to POB?

I knew someone was gonna bring that up.

Firstly, I don't think that there was some weird bad blood and certainly no competition or ego issues behind that incident, if indeed a delayed listening is what in actuality happened. Secondly, Brian was going through such tough emotional stuff at the time that if it's true, I can't exactly blame him... Yet I do think everyone including Brian absolutely should have supported Denny more at the time. It's very, very unfortunate that they didn't. Al verbally has admitted to regretting such. I'll bet Brian privately regrets it too.

Bottom line is that it's apples and oranges to compare the two...

Do I think Mike is going through tough emotional stuff too? Probably yeah. But it seems quite rooted in ego/jealousy and that's the primary, unfortunate difference IMO.

[rab2591]

I wonder if people gave Brian this much crap for taking decades to listen to POB?

I knew someone was gonna bring that up.

Firstly, I don't think that there was some weird bad blood and certainly no competition or ego issues behind that incident, if indeed a delayed listening is what in actuality happened. Secondly, Brian was going through such tough emotional stuff at the time that if it's true, I can't exactly blame him... Yet I do think everyone including Brian absolutely should have supported Denny more at the time. It's very, very unfortunate that they didn't. Al verbally has admitted to regretting such. I'll bet Brian privately regrets it too.

Bottom line is that it's apples and oranges to compare the two...

Do I think Mike is going through tough emotional stuff too? Probably yeah. But it seems quite rooted in ego/jealousy and that's the primary, unfortunate difference IMO.

Exactly. And in recent years Brian has spoken up about his love for POB. I think his reddit or Smiley Smiley Q&A mentioned his favorite song from it. Mike Love on the other hand is currently touting how much "awe and respect" he has "for Brian’s musical abilities" yet hasn't commented or publicly supported his cousin's most recent album.

[SMiLE Brian]

Exactly,Mike's touting of "cousin Brian" rings hollow as usual.

[Autotune]

There seems to be this idea that enhancing one camp equals diminishing the other. Total bullshit, but works like that for some. It's not unusual to ask Brian about lack of support from the BBs in order to enhance this prejudice of misunderstood genius versus a bunch of artless morons. And Brian will give you a "Mike and the guys didn't like Pet Sounds" type of answer, leading you to believe.... What you already believe.

Not much negativity in this new article I think. No mention of drugs and the like. Although how dare Mike and Bruce to not having seen the movie?

[HeyJude]

I think the issue with not having seen the L&M film is making up really lame excuses for having not seen it. I'm pretty sure if two of the Beach Boys, guys actually portrayed in the film no less, let it be known that they wanted to see the film, someone at BRI could probably make that happen. That's not even getting into whether they could have somehow found the time to do a little matinee showing at some point over the last six weeks either during their tour or on off days or whatever.

They should just say they didn't see the film, rather than saying they're too busy while continuously (in the case of Mike) posting detailed show reviews, photo albums, and setlists from gigs on Facebook, going to hang out with Bono and see a U2 show (and then posting a photo album of that on Facebook too).

I'd love them to be frank and (if it's actually the case) say they don't want to see the film. I suppose we can infer that based on them not having taken a couple hours out of their life to see it. Of course, then we run into the problem of trying to comment on something, even in a roundabout way, without having actually seen it.

It's difficult in any circumstance to see an interview where someone is asked about a film, and the person says they haven't seen it, and to then seriously weigh anything they say in reference to the film after that.

[SMiLE Brian]

It looks like the anti love and mercy campaign is in full swing with the simultaneous release of these two ridiculous articles.

[Mike's Beard]

Can someone please contact Al, Blondie, Ricky and David asap and ask them if they've seen the movie yet and if not why are they so anti Brian Wilson?