Are Brian Wilson and Van Dyke Parks currently estranged?

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[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I wonder what their collaboration for The Waltz was like.

It wasn't. The melody was wrtten back in the late 80s (and recorded as 'Let's Get Together'). VDP wrote new, arguably worse lyrics for it, and then Brian recorded new, inarguably worse vocals for it. I...don't think Brian cared for the lyrics that much, and it shows.

[phirnis]

I wonder what their collaboration for The Waltz was like.

It wasn't. The melody was wrtten back in the late 80s (and recorded as 'Let's Get Together'). VDP wrote new, arguably worse lyrics for it, and then Brian recorded new, inarguably worse vocals for it. I...don't think Brian cared for the lyrics that much, and it shows.

Just relistened to this song after a long time. Man, GIOMH was a weird album... Let's Stick Together on the other hand is one of my favorites from Brian's solo career!

[puni puni]

Brian on VDP in the NPR interview posted today: "I haven't see him in years. Not since we did the Smile album."

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I wonder what their collaboration for The Waltz was like.

It wasn't. The melody was wrtten back in the late 80s (and recorded as 'Let's Get Together'). VDP wrote new, arguably worse lyrics for it, and then Brian recorded new, inarguably worse vocals for it. I...don't think Brian cared for the lyrics that much, and it shows.

Just relistened to this song after a long time. Man, GIOMH was a weird album... Let's Stick Together on the other hand is one of my favorites from Brian's solo career!

Let's Get Together, Let's Stick Together, City of Seattle....they're all the same


Seriously, though...shows how much I cared for it that I of all people got the name wrong!

[Autotune]

I wonder what their collaboration for The Waltz was like.

It wasn't. The melody was wrtten back in the late 80s (and recorded as 'Let's Get Together'). VDP wrote new, arguably worse lyrics for it, and then Brian recorded new, inarguably worse vocals for it. I...don't think Brian cared for the lyrics that much, and it shows.

Yeah, but I was wondering if they ever met for that.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Here's the quote from the VDP interview referenced.

"It's a dull issue," he growls. "I hope it doesn't need any further elaboration. To have been victimised by Brian Wilson's buffoonery."

Speaking only for myself, I'd rather be victimized by buffoonery than bored/annoyed by pretentiousness, but that's just me I guess.

I wonder what their collaboration for The Waltz was like.

It wasn't. The melody was wrtten back in the late 80s (and recorded as 'Let's Get Together'). VDP wrote new, arguably worse lyrics for it, and then Brian recorded new, inarguably worse vocals for it. I...don't think Brian cared for the lyrics that much, and it shows.

Yeah, but I was wondering if they ever met for that.

Ahhh...I don't think so, but I don't know for sure. I would imagine no, in the Parks acted like being contacted for the new BWPS lyrics was the first time he talked to him in ages, but it was in normal English, so who knows if it was true or not.

[guitarfool2002]

At the New York City Q & A tonight, Brian had praise and good things to say all around for Van Dyke, specifically complimenting him as a lyricist and for his musicianship.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Doesn't he know he's supposed to be estranged from VDP ? Well, really... 

[Peter Reum]

I have emails from 2003 before  Brian called to me     from VDP that clearly show that he had not heard  from BW re the announced completion goal for Smile.

[puni puni]

Wasn't VDP and BDW photographed with Randy Newman backstage somewhere in 2011?

[Smilin Ed H]

In London. Jools Holland show.

[Mike's Beard]

That VDP has taken to calling Love and Mercy "Mrs.Wilson's biopic" suggests that things are still not rosey between him and the Wilson camp.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

That's f***ed up. If thats how he feels, he needs to get over himself

[Cam Mott]

They probably aren't as close as we wish or as distant as they sometimes seem.

[Mr. Tiger]

That's f***ed up. If thats how he feels, he needs to get over himself

That quote was from a tweet quite a while back, and it segued into a Mike Love joke. I don't think it was to be taken all that seriously. Also, Brian had given an interview around that time saying that he didn't know all that much about the movie and that his wife was involved. So he was clearly referring to that.

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

They probably aren't as close as we wish or as distant as they sometimes seem.

Smartest thing you've ever said.

[sea of tunes]

[Cam Mott]

They probably aren't as close as we wish or as distant as they sometimes seem.

Smartest thing you've ever said.

How would you know?

[Cyncie]

Mr. Parks needs to decide if he wants to be associated with Brian and SMiLE or not. For a guy who claims he's over BW, who sides with Daro's opinion of him, and who makes snarky comments about someone's genius PR, it sure seems to burn his buns when he's left out of the discussion. He's been whining about everything Brian's done since the reunion tour. News Flash, Mr. Parks: This is Brian's story. Not yours. 

[Jim V.]

They probably aren't as close as we wish or as distant as they sometimes seem.

Smartest thing you've ever said.

How would you know?

Cuz he's spoken with your family and co-workers and they said usually you're not saying the smartest stuff.

[Autotune]

Mr. Parks needs to decide if he wants to be associated with Brian and SMiLE or not. For a guy who claims he's over BW, who sides with Daro's opinion of him, and who makes snarky comments about someone's genius PR, it sure seems to burn his buns when he's left out of the discussion. He's been whining about everything Brian's done since the reunion tour. News Flash, Mr. Parks: This is Brian's story. Not yours. 

What was VDP's role in the recording of Good Vibrations anyway? I heard the cello triplet idea credited to him, but also to Carl (if I'm not mistaken). The whole VDP vibe towards Smile seems to be underscored by a desire to be vindicated as more than a mere lyrical partner. Nevertheless, Van Dyke himself helped build that image with quotes such as "I was a glorified scribe" and the like.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Mr. Parks needs to decide if he wants to be associated with Brian and SMiLE or not. For a guy who claims he's over BW, who sides with Daro's opinion of him, and who makes snarky comments about someone's genius PR, it sure seems to burn his buns when he's left out of the discussion. He's been whining about everything Brian's done since the reunion tour. News Flash, Mr. Parks: This is Brian's story. Not yours.  

Exactly. Bluntly put, nobody would give two shits about him if he hadn't written the lyrics for Smile. He's jealous.

[Robbie Mac]

Mr. Parks needs to decide if he wants to be associated with Brian and SMiLE or not. For a guy who claims he's over BW, who sides with Daro's opinion of him, and who makes snarky comments about someone's genius PR, it sure seems to burn his buns when he's left out of the discussion. He's been whining about everything Brian's done since the reunion tour. News Flash, Mr. Parks: This is Brian's story. Not yours.  

Please, he was working with L.A.'s hip music makers before he met Brian.  You obviously don't like him, but he was building a musical career outside of the short period of time he and Brian were together.

Exactly. Bluntly put, nobody would give two shits about him if he hadn't written the lyrics for Smile. He's jealous.

[Wirestone]

I enjoy Van Dyke a great deal, but some folks shouldn't tweet.