Mike Love- 50 years of Fun, Fun, Fun

[RockabillyNBlues]

Just posted a new interview with The Beach Boys' Mike Love. We talked about the early days, his being honored at the 21st Ella Awards and much more. Plus, there's a 70 minute podcast on there too including the interview segments and lots of music! Hope you dig it!

http://rockabillynblues.blogspot.com/2014/03/beach-boys-mike-love-50-years-of-fun.html

[Mikie]

How did I know this was going to be another opportunity for Mike to make sure everyone knows he had a part of the lyric writing to a few of the songs?

"I wrote all the words to "Surfin' USA", but have yet to be credited for it".

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

[Nicko1234]

How did I know this was going to be another opportunity for Mike to make sure everyone knows he had a part of the lyric writing to a few of the songs?

"I wrote all the words to "Surfin' USA", but have yet to be credited for it".

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

Yep, Brian did say in the 1974 interview on Youtube though that he wrote the song with Mike.

After Jimmy Bowles provided the list, it was presumably Brian and Mike who wrote the song and lyrics around them.

[shelter]

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

This has been discussed several times on this board already, but I really don't think that Jimmy Bowles can be considered a co-writer of Surfin' USA. He had no creative input whatsoever. He provided factual information. If someone would want to write a song about, say, European capitals and I'd tell him that he could mention Paris, London, Madrid, Vienna, Amsterdam and Rome, that wouldn't make me a co-writer either, would it?

[Matt H]

How did I know this was going to be another opportunity for Mike to make sure everyone knows he had a part of the lyric writing to a few of the songs?

"I wrote all the words to "Surfin' USA", but have yet to be credited for it".

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

Did he try to get credit for Surfin' USA in the lawsuit?

[KittyKat]

It may have been too complicated to add Mike's name to that song so his lawyers decided not to include it in the lawsuit. There was the little matter that Brian plagiarized the tune from Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" and was forced to add Chuck's name to the credits. Changing the credits to add another name would have required getting Chuck and his attorneys involved, which could have been more expensive than it was worth.

[CenturyDeprived]

It may have been too complicated to add Mike's name to that song so his lawyers decided not to include it in the lawsuit. There was the little matter that Brian plagiarized the tune from Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" and was forced to add Chuck's name to the credits. Changing the credits to add another name would have required getting Chuck and his attorneys involved, which could have been more expensive than it was worth.

That's probably true, in that Mike might just not wanted to have to deal with Berry's lawyers and such. Still, it seems obvious that if Mike did co-write the song, that instead of Chuck having to give up any portion of his credit, that Mike should simply have been able to get a portion of Brian's songwriting credit percentage on that song. It is baffling that Mike hasn't gotten a co-writing credit after all this time. Guess it must be more trouble than it's worth.

[Mr. Wilson]

I think Mike needs a new script..!

[Mikie]

I think Mike needs a new script..!

He really does. Most if not all interviews these days with Mike Love are laced with, "Remember, I wrote the words to this or that.....". And lately he's been more vocal about Murry ripping him off.  You can't help but wonder what the average reader thinks of his ego when they read an interview with Mike. It's the same 'braggart' tone with him that surfaces during pretty much interview - just watch for it and you'll see.

[bgas]

I think Mike needs a new script..!

He really does. Most if not all interviews these days with Mike Love are laced with, "Remember, I wrote the words to this or that.....". And lately he's been more vocal about Murry ripping him off.  You can't help but wonder what the average reader thinks of his ego when they read an interview with Mike. It's the same 'braggart' tone with him that surfaces during pretty much interview - just watch for it and you'll see.

Not saying a new script wouldn't be a good firts step, but, Consideration has to be given that the "average reader" isn't following every Mike Love interview. I don't believe any readers on here can be considered "average"   

[Mikie]

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

This has been discussed several times on this board already, but I really don't think that Jimmy Bowles can be considered a co-writer of Surfin' USA. He had no creative input whatsoever. He provided factual information. If someone would want to write a song about, say, European capitals and I'd tell him that he could mention Paris, London, Madrid, Vienna, Amsterdam and Rome, that wouldn't make me a co-writer either, would it?

They were too busy fending off Chuck Berry's lawyers to worry about who was going to get credit for the song with Brian. Look at it this way - what if Jimmy Bowles HAD NOT come up with the list of surfing spots. How different would the song have been? Would Brian and Mike have sat down with a map of the world and found all of those surfing spots themselves? Doubt it. Maybe the closest cities but I don't think they were aware of all of those surfin' spots, especially outside California. Thanks, Jimmy Bowles!

[bgas]

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

This has been discussed several times on this board already, but I really don't think that Jimmy Bowles can be considered a co-writer of Surfin' USA. He had no creative input whatsoever. He provided factual information. If someone would want to write a song about, say, European capitals and I'd tell him that he could mention Paris, London, Madrid, Vienna, Amsterdam and Rome, that wouldn't make me a co-writer either, would it?

They were too busy fending off Chuck Berry's lawyers to worry about who was going to get credit for the song with Brian. Look at it this way - what if Jimmy Bowles HAD NOT come up with the list of surfing spots. How different would the song have been? Would Brian and Mike have sat down with a map of the world and found all of those surfing spots themselves? Doubt it. Maybe the closest cities but I don't think they were aware of all of those surfin' spots, especially outside California. Thanks, Jimmy Bowles!

  Of course if Jimmy is in line for a credit, then Judy should get one too! Else how would Jimmy have made the connection? 

[Mikie]

I think Mike needs a new script..!

He really does. Most if not all interviews these days with Mike Love are laced with, "Remember, I wrote the words to this or that.....". And lately he's been more vocal about Murry ripping him off.  You can't help but wonder what the average reader thinks of his ego when they read an interview with Mike. It's the same 'braggart' tone with him that surfaces during pretty much interview - just watch for it and you'll see.

Not saying a new script wouldn't be a good firts step, but, Consideration has to be given that the "average reader" isn't following every Mike Love interview. I don't believe any readers on here can be considered "average"   

Granted, the "average reader" doesn't include Beach Boys fanatics on this board, Bgas. "Average reader" is your average music magazine (i.E. Rolling Stone) or your average guy on the street. People on this board will scrutinize it and read most of his interviews via links from this board. So we on this board can identify 'trends' a lot easier. Everywhere the Bruce and Mike show go, the local paper will interview them or the local DJ or whatever and you hear the same rhetoric come from Mike.

[Mikie]

Deleted.  Avoided the ban hammer by a whisker!

[bgas]

Deleted.  Avoided the ban hammer by a whisker!

Darn!!  I saw it for a second and didn't hit quote fast enough!!!  

By the way Mikie, I'm thinking about coming to the Oakland area in June; Can I come over and play in your pile of 45s?

[Mikie]

Sure, Bgas.  I'll pull out my stack of 45's with the big holes in the middle and you can put your..............uh, you can play with those.

[bgas]

Sure, Bgas.  I'll pull out my stack of 45's with the big holes in the middle and you can put your..............uh, you can play with those.

cool. Maybe we can have a BBs Party!

can I bring jar jar binks? 

[KittyKat]

I do wish he would learn the dictionary definition of alliteration.

[Mikie]

Don't bother me now. I'm trying to fend off Jeremy with 5 different versions of Problem Child. Thanks, eh? Whatsamatter with your collection - you don't have Problem Child? Or does it have to be on vinyl or nothin' happenin'?

[bgas]

I do wish he would learn the dictionary definition of alliteration.

Alliteration is the repetition of the same sounds or of the same kinds of sounds at the beginning of words or in stressed syllables of an English language phrase

[bgas]

Don't bother me now. I'm trying to fend off Jeremy with 5 different versions of Problem Child. Thanks, eh? Whatsamatter with your collection - you don't have Problem Child? Or does it have to be on vinyl or nothin' happenin'?

You are the CD/MP3 master!!  I have some of these, somewhere. Maybe 5?  but you have all of this stuff at your fingertips( while the rest of your collection is stored away) 
 I knew I'd have to give you advance warning  so you can have everything out of Davy Jones' locker  when I arrive....

[Mikie]

Didn't Brian once say that the list of surfing spots in the song "Surfin' USA" were given to him by Jimmy Bowles, the brother of Brian's girlfriend Judy?

This has been discussed several times on this board already, but I really don't think that Jimmy Bowles can be considered a co-writer of Surfin' USA. He had no creative input whatsoever. He provided factual information. If someone would want to write a song about, say, European capitals and I'd tell him that he could mention Paris, London, Madrid, Vienna, Amsterdam and Rome, that wouldn't make me a co-writer either, would it?

They were too busy fending off Chuck Berry's lawyers to worry about who was going to get credit for the song with Brian. Look at it this way - what if Jimmy Bowles HAD NOT come up with the list of surfing spots. How different would the song have been? Would Brian and Mike have sat down with a map of the world and found all of those surfing spots themselves? Doubt it. Maybe the closest cities but I don't think they were aware of all of those surfin' spots, especially outside California. Thanks, Jimmy Bowles!

  Of course if Jimmy is in line for a credit, then Judy should get one too! Else how would Jimmy have made the connection? 

At that point, Judy had already gotten credit, albeit indirectly when she was immortalized in the Brian Wilson-written song "Judy".  

[KittyKat]

Mike doesn't really mean alliteration, though. Nadine is not an alliterative song. I also don't think Van Dyke Parks used much alliteration in Smile, for Mike calling it acid alliteration. Mike himself doesn't use much alliteration. Simplistic, repetitive rhymes, yes.

[Mikie]

Don't bother me now. I'm trying to fend off Jeremy with 5 different versions of Problem Child. Thanks, eh? Whatsamatter with your collection - you don't have Problem Child? Or does it have to be on vinyl or nothin' happenin'?

You are the CD/MP3 master!!  I have some of these, somewhere. Maybe 5?  but you have all of this stuff at your fingertips( while the rest of your collection is stored away) 
 I knew I'd have to give you advance warning  so you can have everything out of Davy Jones' locker  when I arrive....

Dream on.  Your best bet if you want to see a good collection is to contact Panayiotis.  He might let you near his domain.  Or Mr. Meade up in Sac....

[Mr. Wilson]

Three points I"d like to bring up ..  Do you think Mike's use of the same script has anything to do with AGE..?? senility.. No one has brought that up.. Or obsessive compulsive  disorder ?.. Also im assuming this but... Brian was sued for SUSA melody being too close to Sweet little 16.... OK.. But Brian used Most of Johnny B Goode  intro for FFF.... Why no lawsuit..?.. I remember reading  in 1963 he admitted to using sweet little 16 as a roadmap so to speak to writing SUSA.. Ive always figured the reason he got sued was because he admitted to it in print.. So what's Up with a lawsuit for one but not the other.. Never understood that..