Mike hopes to "record another album the way it should be"

[baseball95]

http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2014-01-18/heroes-and-villains-mike-love/

[Mr. Wilson]

Thank You for posting the link..!

[SMiLE Brian]

*sigh* here we go again with the wacky Mike Love interviews.

[Shady]

Sadly will never happen

[Jukka]

50 Years of Fun, Fun, Fun is a clever name for a tour.

[Mr. Wilson]

 

[Shady]

A Mike Love book would be incredible, maybe better than the up coming Brian once since we know Mike will actually be involved in his

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

A Mike Love book would be incredible, maybe better than the up coming Brian once since we know Mike will actually be involved in his

The first "Mike Love's New Book" thread will crash this damn site all by itself, and perhaps even the entire internet! 

[Mr. Wilson]

Your post is not only funny but actually real.. Oh fun times abound..

[Phoenix]

Sadly will never happen

Thank God!  I only say this because Mike seemed to hate everything I loved about the last album!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I’ve been quoted about things I’ve never even said, like that I didn’t like Pet Sounds and I said, “Don’t ask me the formula?” I never said that! I never ever said that.

'Don't ask me the formula'?!  WTF?! I pretty much guarantee he never said that

[Pretty Funky]

I'm wondering if it is some kind of filter.

[Niko]

50 Years of Fun, Fun, Fun is a clever name for a tour.

It'll be good for their image for sure.

[Pretty Funky]

But a perfect example of why Brian can't write with the guy. Zero new material.

[Marcella]

Mike needs to name check album titles from KTSA, BB85, Still Cruisin, & SIP, hence the need to write "new" material with Brian

[John Manning]

But a perfect example of why Brian can't write with the guy. Zero new material.

I'm sure Mike could come up with new material, just it'd be based on old material. Don't regard myself as a Mike basher but since the early 70s his lyrical output has been regressive. This interview suggests he still sees backwards as the way forwards.

[Rocker]

What a first sentence!! 

Mike Love invokes so many conflicted feelings it’s easy to forget he co-wrote “Fun, Fun, Fun” and “Good Vibrations,” sang harmony on “Don’t Worry Baby,” took the second verse on “Sloop John B,” and made John Stamos an honorary Beach Boy on Full House.



Re: “50 Years of Fun, Fun, Fun.”

How many years do you think the band can and will hang on to the 50 years stuff?

[D409]

Luke Winkie ? Is that the writer's real name ?

[Autotune]

But a perfect example of why Brian can't write with the guy. Zero new material.

I'm sure Mike could come up with new material, just it'd be based on old material. Don't regard myself as a Mike basher but since the early 70s his lyrical output has been regressive. This interview suggests he still sees backwards as the way forwards.

I think it's hard to tell. His lyrics for his unreleased of a few years ago were not regressive. Just regular pop lyrics; some of them pretty good, actually. Granted, some of those lyrics were written a number of years before, but he deemed them relevant and current enough to use them.

What's wrong with his lyrics for Isn't it Time? And those for Beaches in mind fit the unpretentious (bland?) song rather well.

[runnersdialzero]

I'm more interested to hear what material Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce and David could come up with than further "PRODUCED BY BRIAN WILSON OR MAYBE JOE THOMAS. WRITTEN BY BRIAN WILSON OR MAYBE JOE THOMAS FEATURING A BUNCH OF OTHER GUYS WITH MAFIA CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS JON BON JOVI*".

It's cool to have an extra set of ears in there (although I really wish it weren't Joe Thomas) and I'm not really against the guy contributing minimally to already-there material (a lot of producers do that), but shoot. Again, I'm not taking sides, but I do agree with Mike's assertion that it's pathetic that five human beings can't get together in a room and write without being through the filter of Joe Thomas/wives and managers and handlers/money/whatever.

They wrote together as a band for a few decades before the TWGMTR approach came to be. The TWGMTR approach worked well, I like the album, but there are so many flaws and anomalies throughout the entire thing that are the result of the process. It's a lame, convoluted approach to writing music and, in this instance, I feel like Mike is right. Like, there's no reason things should be so complicated. People talk like Brian is incapable of walking out of the room if there's a day where he doesn't see eye to eye with someone else. I feel like Al, Bruce and David should involved in the process as Brian or Mike, both to keep Brian and Mike in check and because I think their contributions would help. An additional party would be great if it were someone like Darian or Scott whose work with Brian has been worlds more tasteful than the stuff Joe does.

[Sheriff John Stone]

After reading several of these post-TWGMTR interviews with Mike Love, the picture has gotten much clearer.

It appears there were - and are - two distinct opinions/sides/wants/approaches to what a 2012 (and future?) Beach Boys album should be. On one side, the record company side, the Joe Thomas side, and the "powers that be" side, they wanted a mature, non-rocking, not exactly "fun" album of all new material, with no covers and no songs from Al, Bruce, and David. The compromise was to throw Mike a bone, albeit a bone with not much meat on it. That album was That's Why God Made The Radio. Mike didn't like that. Some fans didn't like that, either. A lot did.

Mike's side or vision - I think - would be more of a group album, with the vast majority of the songs having a B. Wilson/M. Love credit. I think Mike might be open to a song from the other members to fill out the album. That wasn't gonna happen in 2012, and maybe (probably?) ain't ever gonna happen.

It doesn't appear that Mike wants to compromise anymore. He may never get the chance anyway. Future discussions for another Beach Boys' album may never take place. If negotiations were going to happen, you would think the best chance would've been immediately following TWGMTR and the anniversary tour. They could've piggybacked on that momentum. Now, the momentum's gone, the guys aren't getting any younger, and the record company moved on with a solo Brian Wilson.

[clack]

Mike's side or vision - I think - would be more of a group album, with the vast majority of the songs having a B. Wilson/M. Love credit. I think Mike might be open to a song from the other members to fill out the album. That wasn't gonna happen in 2012, and maybe (probably?) ain't ever gonna happen.

But Mike also wrote with Al, and Al wrote with Brian. I don't hear Mike go on and on about how the only way another Beach Boy lp will ever happen is if Al agrees to sit in the same room with Mike and write some songs from scratch, or if Brian co-writes with Al again.

It's all about Mike's status -- in his mind -- as co-creator of the Beach Boys songbook of the classic era, as McCartney is to Lennon, and Jagger to Richards. And to give Mike his due, he was denied writing credit on many of the songs for so many years -- I can see where the chip on his shoulder comes from.

So, the upshot: no more Beach Boys albums.

[lostbeachboy]

The beach boys 50.... How exciting! It couldn't have been called...

Good Vibrations: 50 Years of the beach boys

The beach boys: 50 years under the sun

[Micha]

Unfortunately Brian's and Mike's opinions on what way "it should be" to make an album the are vastly different...

The beach boys 50.... How exciting! It couldn't have been called...

Good Vibrations: 50 Years of the beach boys

The beach boys: 50 years under the sun

Well, the 2016 tour will undoubtedly have a name as "50 years of Good Vibrations"...

[KittyKat]

I don't think Brian can write complete songs anymore, not the way Mike wants him to. Brian needs other collaborators to contribute to chords and melodies. Sitting around a piano and writing a song with Mike alone is in the past.