AGD banned?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Personally speaking, IMHO you have more than proved yourself since then. Mistakes happen.

[EthanJames]

Personally speaking, IMHO you have more than proved yourself since then. Mistakes happen.

Thank you Billy.
I don't see what gives a lot of poster the right to criticize me for one terrible post and most of you posters on have said more hurtful things to other posters on a lot of other posts than I have, whether or not it involved corpse pictures, have you ever seen me say anything hurtful and such since after I was back on here?

[rab2591]

Personally speaking, IMHO you have more than proved yourself since then. Mistakes happen.

Thank you Billy.
I don't see what gives a lot of poster the right to criticize me for one terrible post and most of you posters on have said more hurtful things to other posters on a lot of other posts than I have, whether or not it involved corpse pictures, have you ever seen me say anything hurtful and such since after I was back on here?

I don't get why people still bring it up. You've more than explained yourself and explained the reasoning behind those posts, apologized, and moved on. I wish others would move on as well. I'm glad you're still posting here, Ethan.

[EthanJames]

Personally speaking, IMHO you have more than proved yourself since then. Mistakes happen.

Thank you Billy.
I don't see what gives a lot of poster the right to criticize me for one terrible post and most of you posters on have said more hurtful things to other posters on a lot of other posts than I have, whether or not it involved corpse pictures, have you ever seen me say anything hurtful and such since after I was back on here?

I don't get why people still bring it up. You've more than explained yourself and explained the reasoning behind those posts, apologized, and moved on. I wish others would move on as well. I'm glad you're still posting here, Ethan.

Thanks rab2591,
I don't have a right to judge for something i did a year ago and yet posters here still continue to say hurtful things to one another after they apologize and after I apologize you don't see me saying hurtful things to anyone.  Also, What did you expect when you start with people, look what happened when someone antagonized me? you don't know how people are going to respond or what there going through, think before you write 'cause you'll never know how that persons going to respond and why was I brought back? because I know what I was did was wrong, wanted to apologize and wanted to move on.

[MBE]

Personally speaking, IMHO you have more than proved yourself since then. Mistakes happen.

Thank you Billy.
I don't see what gives a lot of poster the right to criticize me for one terrible post and most of you posters on have said more hurtful things to other posters on a lot of other posts than I have, whether or not it involved corpse pictures, have you ever seen me say anything hurtful and such since after I was back on here?

I don't get why people still bring it up. You've more than explained yourself and explained the reasoning behind those posts, apologized, and moved on. I wish others would move on as well. I'm glad you're still posting here, Ethan.

Thanks rab2591,
I don't have a right to judge for something i did a year ago and yet posters here still continue to say hurtful things to one another after they apologize and after I apologize you don't see me saying hurtful things to anyone.  Also, What did you expect when you start with people, look what happened when someone antagonized me? you don't know how people are going to respond or what there going through, think before you write 'cause you'll never know how that persons going to respond and why was I brought back? because I know what I was did was wrong, wanted to apologize and wanted to move on.

Ethan if I may weigh in. I was truly grossed out by the death pictures at the time, but I know how sincere you are and think your work with Beach Boys photos etc. add a lot to the board. I, for one, put it behind me.

[EthanJames]

Personally speaking, IMHO you have more than proved yourself since then. Mistakes happen.

Thank you Billy.
I don't see what gives a lot of poster the right to criticize me for one terrible post and most of you posters on have said more hurtful things to other posters on a lot of other posts than I have, whether or not it involved corpse pictures, have you ever seen me say anything hurtful and such since after I was back on here?

I don't get why people still bring it up. You've more than explained yourself and explained the reasoning behind those posts, apologized, and moved on. I wish others would move on as well. I'm glad you're still posting here, Ethan.

Thanks rab2591,
I don't have a right to judge for something i did a year ago and yet posters here still continue to say hurtful things to one another after they apologize and after I apologize you don't see me saying hurtful things to anyone.  Also, What did you expect when you start with people, look what happened when someone antagonized me? you don't know how people are going to respond or what there going through, think before you write 'cause you'll never know how that persons going to respond and why was I brought back? because I know what I was did was wrong, wanted to apologize and wanted to move on.

Ethan if I may weigh in. I was truly grossed out by the death pictures at the time, but I know how sincere you are and think your work with Beach Boys photos etc. add a lot to the board. I, for one, put it behind me.

Thanks Mike

[Rocky Raccoon]

As I seem to have been the target of the cause, I feel I should weigh in.

I was not offended in the slightest bit by AGD's comment, I found it harsh but I was more concerned with myself for my ignorant though harmless comment which gave him leverage.

However, I do believe that if he had hypothetically said that to someone else, it might be a different story.  Andrew needs to remember that he is interacting with real people here.  He may be staring at a computer screen but he is talking to real living human beings.  We have no idea what the person on the other side is like or what he or she is thinking.  We have to treat them to same way we treat people we encounter physically.  And I highly doubt that Andrew would go up to a stranger (which I basically am to him) and call them stupid based on a random comment, that's just rude behavior.  I do appreciate everything Andrew does with his research, his website is still a fantastic source.  He just needs to be more respectful to his fellow board members.  Maybe the ban will do him good and he'll come back with more restraint on his words.

[bgas]

 Place is really boring lately. What we need is some AGD insight. END the BAN!! 

[18thofMay]

Place is really boring lately. What we need is some AGD insight. END the BAN!! 

I concur

[Jason]

Merged with the "AGD banned?" thread.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

He'll be back in 9 days.

[bgas]

He'll be back in 9 days.

9 days bla bla bla....  end it now!

[18thofMay]

He'll be back in 9 days.

9 days bla bla bla....  end it now!

I concur

[Jason]

We should have an unbanhammer challenge similar to the banhammer challenge that went into effect a while ago. In this case, someone who wants us to drop the unbanhammer (like bgas and 18thofMay here) appeals to us mods for a reason for us to give the unbanhammer to someone who has been banhammered. If the mods cannot justify the reason to unbanhammer the banhammered member, then those who made the appeal are banhammered.

I'm joking, by the way. Andrew's ban will expire in nine days. Patience, folks. Patience.

[Gertie J.]

WHAT?!! agd got kicked off for simple 'stupid'?! the whole month?!?? wow.

[grillo]

   Even the guy who he called stupid, or whatever, doesn't care about the reason AGD was banned! And there are many voices looking to UN-ban him. So what's the hold up? Some arbitrary rule? Who benefits from his ban? No one, that is correct. This board has gotten so bogged down in useless anti-mike crap and lame threads about the crapping Beatles that we need, I mean NEED Andrew back just to inject a little, well...anything back into it.
   Un-ban him, and ban anyone from banning him, if you're gonna start banning at all.

[Jason]

We never do anything right.

[Jay]

Wasn't AGD banned for something more serious? I thought I read somewhere that it involved Andrew Hickey(great name  ).

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

It was for a month because it was a second offense, not because it was more severe.

Some arbitrary rule? Who benefits from his ban? No one, that is correct. This board has gotten so bogged down in useless anti-mike crap and lame threads about the crapping Beatles that we need, I mean NEED Andrew back just to inject a little, well...anything back into it.

I'm sorry you found my thread lame; don't read it then. I don't know why you're taking a shot at me as I DID NOT BAN ANDREW. I supported it because Jason made a judgment call, and because he could have done it sooner for some admittedly more harsh posts. Even though Andrew is one of my best friends IRL, I can't be playing favorites as a moderator. The funny part is, before Jason did it, a lot of posters were calling for AGD to be banned. Who stood up for him? Me. And now I'm being attacked for something I didn't even do? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's funny...I've gone out of my in my time here to be as objective and fair as possible. Try to hold everyone to the same standard, regardless of personal feelings. His ban expires next week. Despite the fact that I personally want him back right now , should I just say to hell with the rules? How is that fair to anybody else that has done their time and come back? Or, if I don't do it now, and someone else gets suspended and I lift it early due to a public outcry...would that be fair to him?

Not too long ago, people were complaining about how negative the board has been with the name calling, flaming, ect. Yet whenever something is done about it, people complain. At this point, I'm asking myself why do I bother? I'm half-tempted to leave for several months and see what happens when I come back. Maybe Jason and Smile Holland should leave with me and let the board go without moderation. See what happens in three months, if the board's still here. I mean, for f***'s sake, this is possibly the most lenient forum I have EVER been a part of, and it's still too much. I could lift my leg and sh*t out bunnies, pull a rainbow out of my ass and vomit gold, all while walking on water, and some people still would have a problem with how I do things.

Maybe this forum is broken.

[Jason]

 

Yeah, Billy pretty much nailed it; it's the same way I feel. And if anyone here wants to take me to task about it, go ahead. Accountability is what I strive for. I've made a commitment to make myself available to anyone here to air any grievances. All of the other moderators have, as well. I've no personal beef with Andrew, but sometimes tough decisions need to be made. I did what I felt was right. Andrew will be back. The world will keep on turning.

But don't get your knickers in a bundle because "you" wanted us to do something and then get pissed off when we actually do it.

[Jay]

Sometimes certain people just aren't happy until they're not happy(translation: pitching a bitchfest just for the sake of it). Maybe we SHOULD go a bit without this place being moderated at all. Maybe it'll take us descending into chaos before some people here get their head out of their ass and realize just how good we have it here.

[Gertie J.]

@billy

eh.. i thought grillo referred to the 'beatles vs bb' and 'other white album songs mike should have helped with' threads. i mean, yer thread is in the general music section.

[Jason]

Hey, we could go for the no-holds-barred action that everyone here apparently wants. The board will cease to exist. But hey...if you guys want to have a board where anything goes (personal attacks, death threats, posting gore pictures), I'm all for it. I guarantee you that it will not last long before people wise up and realize how much the current situation is really no big deal.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

eh.. i thought grillo referred to the 'beatles vs bb' and 'other white album songs mike should have helped with' threads. i mean, yer thread is in the general music section.

I'd hope so, personally. Just kind of caught me by surprise because it was in the middle of a post regarding moderation, so I may have taken it the wrong way. That said, I still stand by the rest of what I posted. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get this board in a more positive mood, but I'm honestly at a loss. This board is at it's best when we're analyzing the music, or discussing why things happen the way they did, or debunking myths. I...don't want to lose that.

[alf wiedersehen]

eh.. i thought grillo referred to the 'beatles vs bb' and 'other white album songs mike should have helped with' threads. i mean, yer thread is in the general music section.

I'd hope so, personally. Just kind of caught me by surprise because it was in the middle of a post regarding moderation, so I may have taken it the wrong way. That said, I still stand by the rest of what I posted. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get this board in a more positive mood, but I'm honestly at a loss. This board is at it's best when we're analyzing the music, or discussing why things happen the way they did, or debunking myths. I...don't want to lose that.

The fate of the board hangs in the balance while we all anxiously await those goshdarn MiC samples.