TWGMTR Follow-up

[SurfRiderHawaii]

If Don Was was producing "Still a Mystery.." way back when, and they are gonna put it on MIC, only makes sense to bring Don in to finish it off.  Don did the same thing, finishing old tracks with Mick for some of the Stones recent re-releases (Some Girls).

But, that last thing you mention DIDN'T really make sense, since Don Was was not around for the original Some Girls (or Exile On Main Street) sessions!  Still, I kinda like those lately-finished Stones tracks, even if Mick's lyrical perspective is much more mature now than in the '70s, which kinda kills the authenticity.  But, one could look at it the way we look at the new melodies and lyrics on BWPS, and enjoy it for what it is.

True, not a perfect analogy. Just doing hypothetical guessing as to what Brian and Don are up to.

[Micha]

If Don Was was producing "Still a Mystery.." way back when, and they are gonna put it on MIC, only makes sense to bring Don in to finish it off.

Sounds plausible.

What I'd like to have though is the original backing track for "Desert Drive" with Mike on lead and the boys on bg...

[the professor]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.
So what good are the things I can and cannot imagine? Time to wait.

[Rocker]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.

But I believe that is exactly what happened. IIRC Jon Stebbins said they had offers for more concerts, TV appearances and another studio album.

[SMiLE Brian]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.
So what good are the things I can and cannot imagine? Time to wait.

This is how things should be, but aren't. The BBs don't get along anymore and just keep their distance from each other. Brian and Mike are just separate elements at the end of the day.

[The Shift]

We don't NEED anything other than the ability to differentiate between a desire for information about a recreational pursuit/artistic product and genuine necessity.

[Rocker]

Brian and Jeff Beck working together at Ocean Way.


Source: Facebook

[EgoHanger1966]

Unreal. I hope they clue us in at some point as to what he's working on, maybe even throw us a sample or FB/BW.com exclusive? If there's only even one song that matches the caliber of "Summer's Gone" from these sessions, I'd be over the moon.

Brian must like that North Face jacket.... 

[Awesoman]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.
So what good are the things I can and cannot imagine? Time to wait.

I'm pretty confident this is a solo project BW is working on. Have you not been reading the recent interviews with the band members?  They're not together anymore. Time to let it go.

[SMiLE Brian]

Unreal. I hope they clue us in at some point as to what he's working on, maybe even throw us a sample or FB/BW.com exclusive? If there's only even one song that matches the caliber of "Summer's Gone" from these sessions, I'd be over the moon.

Brian must like that North Face jacket.... 

Glad to see Brian is cooking up something good!

BW sure knows his clothing....

[Wirestone]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.
So what good are the things I can and cannot imagine? Time to wait.

I'm pretty confident this is a solo project BW is working on. Have you not been reading the recent interviews with the band members?  They're not together anymore. Time to let it go.

Well, members are together. But in two groups, not one.

According to Stebbins, a second studio album was part of the reunion continuation package. Mike rejected it.

[SMiLE Brian]

That is a shame, to pass up a followup to a billboard number three album. I guess Mike only wanted another album if he could force Brian to write all the songs with him.

I hope Brian's project turns out to be great.

[Sheriff John Stone]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.
So what good are the things I can and cannot imagine? Time to wait.

I'm pretty confident this is a solo project BW is working on. Have you not been reading the recent interviews with the band members?  They're not together anymore. Time to let it go.

Well, members are together. But in two groups, not one.

According to Stebbins, a second studio album was part of the reunion continuation package. Mike rejected it.

Who made the offer for the second studio album?

[Jim V.]

I'm really hoping this isn't GIOMH 2. There's a lot of different people stopping by the studio and I'm just hoping this isn't a Brian & Friends album. I want a album of new Brian Wilson songs performed by Brian Wilson. He's a great artist and doesn't need other famous people propping him up.

[SMiLE Brian]

One difference, Brian is way more motivated and successful than he was ten years ago. I hope the guests are kept to a minimum though.

[Amanda Hart]

Do we actually know he's working on a project for himself, or could he just be guesting for someone else here? It seems unusual from him to be using session guys and other name musicians for a solo project, since we know there have been issues in the past with wanting to pay musicians for playing on BW solo albums. It wouldn't surprise me if he was guest producing or something on a few tracks as part of a Don Was project.

[Autotune]

That is a shame, to pass up a followup to a billboard number three album. I guess Mike only wanted another album if he could force Brian to write all the songs with him.

I hope Brian's project turns out to be great.

"if he could force Brian...". C'mon! It's a guess; and an unfair one. Mike is entitled to his agenda, if it includes co-writing with Brian, just as Brian is entitled to his own agenda (like giving Foskett a stellar vocal role, for instance).

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Brian and Jeff Beck working together at Ocean Way.


Source: Facebook

I believe they are both doing the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp together this week so they might just be rehearsing.

http://www.rockcamp.com/jeff_beck.php

[Justin]

What...is there a bus outside the studio unloading them into the studio? 



L.A. drummer Vinnie Colauita and Australian bass guitarist Tal Winkenfeld in the studio for Brian's project.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

What...is there a bus outside the studio unloading them into the studio?  



L.A. drummer Vinnie Colauita and Australian bass guitarist Tal Winkenfeld in the studio for Brian's project.

Pretty sure they are in Jeff Beck's band for the fantasy camp. Probably a rehearsal.
But it does say project. Pleasure Island?

[the professor]

We don't NEED anything other than the ability to differentiate between a desire for information about a recreational pursuit/artistic product and genuine necessity.

Yes John, I will continue to focus on food , water, and shelter in the meantime. Though I was speaking of need in the "recreational pursuit/artistic" sense of course. Did you think, brother John, that I was planning a hunger strike like an Irish rebel?
But now I will double down, however, and I say we need another BB album to defeat any last vestiges of mortality that 50 years of mythic combat may have left un-vanquished.  

[Wirestone]

WHAT WE NEED IS A VIABLE LEAK OF INFORMATION OR A PROPER PRESS RELEASE.

Brian is making an album, and we need to know if it will be a BB album. I can't imagine that Capital would not want exactly that, considering Radio, the Live album, the boxed set, etc. I can't imagine Mike saying no when asked.
So what good are the things I can and cannot imagine? Time to wait.

I'm pretty confident this is a solo project BW is working on. Have you not been reading the recent interviews with the band members?  They're not together anymore. Time to let it go.

Well, members are together. But in two groups, not one.

According to Stebbins, a second studio album was part of the reunion continuation package. Mike rejected it.

Who made the offer for the second studio album?

No idea. I'm referring to this post by Mr. Stebbins:

There's a big piece of info that's missing from your theory, one that's been discussed in other C50 threads on this board...the tour was orig. set at 50 dates, and as things evolved in such a positive way more offers came through, they were accepted up to the number of approx. 70 dates...but the offers didn't end there...they had another 20 or so on the table, major dates, big venues, more TV, another LP...this was all on the table...and Brian, Al and Dave said lets keep going and Mike said no, he wanted to go back to his normal setup. So your statement that there was a "set end-date to the tour" isn't really true, it didn't have to end at 50 or 70 or whatever...it could have kept going as long as they ALL wanted it to...but they ALL did not want to continue. No publicity stunt...just the usual Beach Boys embarrassing ugliness returning after a nice break from it.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,15487.msg363125.html#msg363125

[Jim V.]

Ya know professor (and anybody else who will listen), I was laying on the beach today with my fiance and as usual my mind was on The Beach Boys. Whether or not they'd get back together. How much longer Brian has on this earth. Whatever else. And it hit me....

These guys have given us years of great music. They have done lots of great work together and separately. And ultimately I'm glad that they are still here and still very active. And that's all I wish for them for the foreseeable future. If Mike and Bruce wanna tour without the other guys, then that's what the should do. If Brian wants to record when he feels like it, and play shows when he feels like it, he should do that too. But they shouldn't waste their time with squabbles. I hope they are all happy. And if they want to get back together, then they should.

Ultimately, I think we should be happy with what they've given us, and look forward to Made in California, studio and live work from Brian, and live work from Mike. Anything else will be a cherry on top in my book.

[Les P]

Ya know professor (and anybody else who will listen), I was laying on the beach today with my fiance and as usual my mind was on The Beach Boys. Whether or not they'd get back together. How much longer Brian has on this earth. Whatever else. And it hit me....

These guys have given us years of great music. They have done lots of great work together and separately. And ultimately I'm glad that they are still here and still very active. And that's all I wish for them for the foreseeable future. If Mike and Bruce wanna tour without the other guys, then that's what the should do. If Brian wants to record when he feels like it, and play shows when he feels like it, he should do that too. But they shouldn't waste their time with squabbles. I hope they are all happy. And if they want to get back together, then they should.

Ultimately, I think we should be happy with what they've given us, and look forward to Made in California, studio and live work from Brian, and live work from Mike. Anything else will be a cherry on top in my book.

Thank you, SDJ.  We have been given 50 years of music and were given a very nice and unexpected present in 2012 in the form of a first-class tour and a respectable album with some stellar tracks (not to mention TSS, a live CD, DVD, MiC to come, etc).   I, at least, didn't expect a reunion, certainly not one with such quality and care given to it.  I am grateful for the gift.  I agree, let them do what they wish.  If Brian -- in his 70s -- gives us more music, with or without the Beach Boys, it will be frosting on the cake and I'll be eager to taste it.

[the professor]

Dude, you gettin' married? Wow. Congrats, especially since she seems to love the BB too. An all BB music wedding?  The ol Professor follows the Roman poet Juvenal when it comes to marriage, but I am happy to congratulate the Dude, a great and generous SSmile-board member and always a gentleman.