Concert August 9, 2013 (M & B Show)

[BB Universe]

Beach Boys (Mike & Bruce) scheduled to appear at Chautauqua Institute's concert series on Friday, August 9, 2013. They have appeared there on about an every other year basis for awhile now.
Here's the announcement by CI:

http://www.ciweb.org/popular-entertainment/

[SMiLE Brian]

Here we go again....

[Rocky Raccoon]

Well, at least they're using the right photograph (though it doesn't appear to be recent, what was up with Totten's hair?)

[Andrew G. Doe]

Late breaking shock news: musicians play concert to earn their income. Film at eleven.

[HeyJude]

Late breaking shock news: musicians play concert to earn their income. Film at eleven.

I don't get it. There's nothing inflammatory about the original post, no negative comments about Mike Love's band. Yes, in past years we didn't get a new thread for announcements of specific Mike shows, but I don't take the original post as the beginning of some sort of new flame thread. I don't get the sarcasm.

As shocking as it may be, there may be some fans out there wondering if the full Beach Boys lineup is going to do anything in 2013, so a show booked by Mike in August of next year may (just may) give us a bit of info to work with in guessing at what they may or may not have planned for 2013.

The only thing more predictable lately than any mention of Mike's band playing a gig is AGD following it up with an overly-defensive, snarky comment. I think people who are supportive, or negative, or indifferent as to more Mike/Bruce shows all may have an interest in what's in store for next year.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I'll tell you what The Beach Boys - the Brian, Mike, Alan, Bruce & David lineup - currently have planned for 2013.

Nothing.  Somehow, the 51st Anniversary tour doesn't have quite the same cachet as "50th". C50 is done and dusted. I wouldn't be astonished if there's not some kind of band promo for the box, but tours... no: new album... not holding my breath.

[sheknowsmetoowell]

Late breaking shock news: musicians play concert to earn their income. Film at eleven.

I don't get it. There's nothing inflammatory about the original post, no negative comments about Mike Love's band. Yes, in past years we didn't get a new thread for announcements of specific Mike shows, but I don't take the original post as the beginning of some sort of new flame thread. I don't get the sarcasm.

As shocking as it may be, there may be some fans out there wondering if the full Beach Boys lineup is going to do anything in 2013, so a show booked by Mike in August of next year may (just may) give us a bit of info to work with in guessing at what they may or may not have planned for 2013.

The only thing more predictable lately than any mention of Mike's band playing a gig is AGD following it up with an overly-defensive, snarky comment. I think people who are supportive, or negative, or indifferent as to more Mike/Bruce shows all may have an interest in what's in store for next year.

Agreed.

[the professor]

I'll tell you what The Beach Boys - the Brian, Mike, Alan, Bruce & David lineup - currently have planned for 2013.

Nothing.  Somehow, the 51st Anniversary tour doesn't have quite the same cachet as "50th". C50 is done and dusted. I wouldn't be astonished if there's not some kind of band promo for the box, but tours... no: new album... not holding my breath.

I feel much like Bob Cratchit if Scrooge won't give him off on Christmas day. . .
Andrew's analysis is likely correct but oh so sad. What a missed opportunity for more creative output--so many songs and so much energy and  invention; if they would just sit in the studio together and work through songs and feels and ideas and create a real new BB album.

[Bhw]

I'll be there... Dancing and high-fiving the boys

[SMiLE Brian]

A shame if this happens but I still think they will do something for 2013. One thing is for sure, I can't go to M&B shows anymore after seeing the full group kick-ass performing.

[HeyJude]

I'll tell you what The Beach Boys - the Brian, Mike, Alan, Bruce & David lineup - currently have planned for 2013.

Nothing.  Somehow, the 51st Anniversary tour doesn't have quite the same cachet as "50th". C50 is done and dusted. I wouldn't be astonished if there's not some kind of band promo for the box, but tours... no: new album... not holding my breath.

I feel much like Bob Cratchit if Scrooge won't give him off on Christmas day. . .
Andrew's analysis is likely correct but oh so sad. What a missed opportunity for more creative output--so many songs and so much energy and  invention; if they would just sit in the studio together and work through songs and feels and ideas and create a real new BB album.

AGD's analysis is likely correct, I'm enough of a realist to realize that. I just think the zeal with which this likely truth is continually pointed out both ignores the fact that most fans agree with this assessment in the first place and also goes well past the realm of informational and much more into the "enjoying it" realm. I just find it odd, at best, and mean-spirited at worst.

The fact that snarky comments were made towards someone simply reporting the existence of an "M&B" show strikes me as either ultra-overly-defensive when it comes to something that could theoretically be a slight towards Mike's band, or just a case of enjoying being adversarial towards fans who might like more "reunion" activities.

[BB Universe]

I think AGD's comment wasn't meant necessarily as sarcasm but rather a comment that this is what should be expected to be the situation for 2013 (maybe with an exception or two...hopefully?) as this is what lifelong performers do...perform.
I posted the announcement because it does give a glimpse (confirmation perhaps?) of 2013. So, to that extent it is somewhat relevant to folks that view this board and perhaps for anyone in the geographic area, they may want to plan accordingly.
I've seen Mike and Bruce play numerous times (same with BW) and for anyone who enjoys the music and the songs wholly recommend seeing them. It is always a fun time and we've never been disappointed.

[HeyJude]

I'll tell you what The Beach Boys - the Brian, Mike, Alan, Bruce & David lineup - currently have planned for 2013.

Nothing.  Somehow, the 51st Anniversary tour doesn't have quite the same cachet as "50th". C50 is done and dusted. I wouldn't be astonished if there's not some kind of band promo for the box, but tours... no: new album... not holding my breath.

I think this ignores the fact that nobody has said it would need to billed as a "51st Anniversary Tour", or that it would need to be billed as anything at all. It shouldn't be about "cachet", especially when the reunion lineup was so good. "We could have done another year of touring, but we wanted to go out on a high note with some 'cachet'" is a ridiculous theoretical argument, and a kick in the teeth (among other places) to fans who waited years to see these guys together, and fans who took notice of how amazing the reunion lineup is, and apparently some sort of kick to the potentially 3/5 of the actual band that wanted to keep going. And yes, now I am dredging the old debate up, and for this I do apologize.  

[HeyJude]

I think AGD's comment wasn't meant necessarily as sarcasm but rather a comment that this is what should be expected to be the situation for 2013 (maybe with an exception or two...hopefully?) as this is what lifelong performers do...perform.
I posted the announcement because it does give a glimpse (confirmation perhaps?) of 2013. So, to that extent it is somewhat relevant to folks that view this board and perhaps for anyone in the geographic area, they may want to plan accordingly.
I've seen Mike and Bruce play numerous times (same with BW) and for anyone who enjoys the music and the songs wholly recommend seeing them. It is always a fun time and we've never been disappointed.

Exactly, it gives an insight and more firm evidence of what's going to happen in 2013. I don't understand pre-empting theoretical beefs with Mike and Bruce doing this or any other gigs. Number one, the post about the show was indeed simply informational. Secondly, so what if fans continue to get hung up on Mike touring under the name? Fans have a new, more specific reason to chide Mike for touring, because now he's not not simply "using the name", he's also using it instead of touring with the rest of a willing band. That's just how it is, we've all gotten over it or will get over it, etc.. But I don't think it's out of line to suggest that this should continue to invite a bit of criticism towards Mike.

[Dave in KC]

Attacks on AGD in this thread are nothing more than killing the messenger. I certainly have a thimble-full of insight compared to him, but I had all this figured out a year ago anyway. So what I thought was worthwhile, for me at least.

[HeyJude]

Attacks on AGD in this thread are nothing more than killing the messenger. I certainly have a thimble-full of insight compared to him, but I had all this figured out a year ago anyway. So what I thought was worthwhile, for me at least.

I see what you mean. I think my issue is that this is a case of a messenger delivering a message we all already got loud and clear, numerous times, and seemingly kind of enjoying delivering that already-received message.

I do get it, I realize that some fans are still voicing huge amounts of outrage as Mike continues to book shows. I understand that there is a point at which this outrage has to be met with a "what else were you expecting?" response. I just question the motives of making those sort of responses, especially when the notice that elicited the response is a simple announcment of a Mike show with no further commentary.

I just don't like and am slightly surprised by the attitude of late that answers fans who simply hope for more reunion activities with a "you're a f***ing idiot, what did else were you expecting, it was all set in stone in 2011, Mike's band is just doing what it always has done" sort of response.

[Shady]

No original lineup tour next summer 

[Mikie]

Film at eleven.

Hey, you're usin' my material! 

[Mikie]

Jude, you're too sensitive.

[Don Malcolm]

Speaking only for myself, I'd much rather have Brian stay at home for the lion's share of 2013 and work on a new album. Write the music, work with lyricists, and record it when Mike and Bruce aren't out on the road (and not performing "I Just Got My Pay")...   

[HeyJude]

Jude, you're too sensitive.

 

It probably seems like that, but it's more like I'm more annoyed and this is me seriously curbing my impulse to express that annoyance less gracefully. The ultimate result may well be that I sound like a sensitive wiener. 

[Dave in KC]

Prediction: the concert dates for M&B will start flowing after the first of the year. Not that really much of a bold prediction.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I just don't like and am slightly surprised by the attitude of late that answers fans who simply hope for more reunion activities with a "you're a f***ing idiot, what did else were you expecting, it was all set in stone in 2011, Mike's band is just doing what it always has done" sort of response.

This is not the Bloo. This is a serious, hard-core BB/BW forum and. as stated before, I tend to expect more from the posters here, both in terms of advanced BB knowledge and basic nous. It would be nice to have some more full band dates scheduled for next year, and this being The Beach Boys, never say never... but the prevailing situation and the past agreements and compromises that allowed the C50 events to take place (and there were some considerable compromises, on all sides) are no longer in place.  On a more personal and slightly selfish note, C50 was carried off far more harmoniously, and with more amazing results that I ever dared to hope for. I wouldn't want to dim this lustre with subsequent, possibly substandard material and shows: I'd rather remember the 9/28/12 show as the last, and one of the very greatest, BB shows ever. Same with the album.

[Pretty Funky]

Hey we all know when it comes to Mike it is like shooting fish in a barrel!

Just suppose Mike made a call to Brian a few weeks back.

Hi Brian. Wondering how is that rocking new album you asked us to keep 2013 clear for going?

Not so good Mike. I'm beat from this year, maybe next year.

Hardly a surprise cuz. You deserve a break as you worked your tail off this year. How do you feel about me continuing my thing until you give me a call-up?

Sure Mike knock yourself out.





The result? Mike is cast as the bad guy when in fact there is none.

[Val]

In total agreement with Mr Doe and Pretty Funky, which may not make me Ms. Popular, but nevertheless...totally honest.