Concert August 9, 2013 (M & B Show)

[Catbirdman]

Same with the album.

You really wouldn't want another album? Brian still has the compositional chops, and the Boys are still singing well... I mean, even if it wouldn't turn out to be a grand slam, I think it's highly unlikely it would be a bunt.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I'd love another album that's as good as TWGMTR. I just don't happen to think lightening will strike twice.

[EthanJames]

Off topic but what's the deal with Bloo? and what is Bloo? 

[Andrew G. Doe]

The Bloo is... the place were reason goes to die, in gruesome and painful manner. There be dragons.

But oddly, not any Cohens.

[gfac22]

I would have gone if Mike hadn't fired Brian!!

But seriously, I'll be there.  I haven't missed a Mike & Bruce show at Chautauqua in years, it's always a great time.  Hard to say no when you get in for free 

On a side note, last time they played there, I was lucky enough to get into the meet & greet before the show.  Mike & Bruce are much shorter than I expected.  And to think they tower over Al...

[Dave in KC]

Do you believe your own eyes? I wouldn't if you perceive Mike as short. Not by any stretch.

[southbay]

double post

[southbay]

I just don't like and am slightly surprised by the attitude of late that answers fans who simply hope for more reunion activities with a "you're a f***ing idiot, what did else were you expecting, it was all set in stone in 2011, Mike's band is just doing what it always has done" sort of response.

This is not the Bloo. This is a serious, hard-core BB/BW forum and. as stated before, I tend to expect more from the posters here, both in terms of advanced BB knowledge and basic nous. It would be nice to have some more full band dates scheduled for next year, and this being The Beach Boys, never say never... but the prevailing situation and the past agreements and compromises that allowed the C50 events to take place (and there were some considerable compromises, on all sides) are no longer in place.  On a more personal and slightly selfish note, C50 was carried off far more harmoniously, and with more amazing results that I ever dared to hope for. I wouldn't want to dim this lustre with subsequent, possibly substandard material and shows: I'd rather remember the 9/28/12 show as the last, and one of the very greatest, BB shows ever. Same with the album.

I can't disagree with AGD's take. I might wish that I could, but I can't

[Andrew G. Doe]

Do you believe your own eyes? I wouldn't if you perceive Mike as short. Not by any stretch.

Just so - Mike's taller than me, and I'm 5' 8". Alan, OTOH... well, I can look over the top of his head.

[Wirestone]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

[Jim V.]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

I agree. The man who has made all this possible wants to continue on, yet people seem giddy that they don't make another album or tour again.

[gfac22]

Do you believe your own eyes? I wouldn't if you perceive Mike as short. Not by any stretch.

Well, I'm 6'3" and Mike seemed considerably shorter than me at the time.  Looking at the picture again, I guess I was wrong.  Bruce on the other hand...

[Andrew G. Doe]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

I agree. The man who has made all this possible wants to continue on, yet people seem giddy that they don't make another album or tour again.

That was then. This is now. Chances are he's forgotten about what he said. Doesn't make his intention any less real, but Brian lives in the moment, and that moment is now in the past. 

[filledeplage]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

I agree. The man who has made all this possible wants to continue on, yet people seem giddy that they don't make another album or tour again.

For the C50 to happen, and the brilliant way it did happen, I think was a direct result of the growth of the individual bands (the three entities) who brought back to the table the skill sets they acquired while working and touring separately.  They acquired business acumen, newer technological skills, and when they reunited, they were better than ever.  

Having seen the tour concerts multiple times, my impression was that they were very "gelled" working together, with members of the respective bands, but, did not have the more "unplugged" touch that the individual entities have.  Each of those bands, are special and are now, at least for the immediate future, appearing to be booking dates, and working with the bands they each worked hard to establish, grow their individual businesses and hopefully be engaged in the process of writing material they can record in unison when the time comes.

Is this a bad thing, to unplug from the big, fantastic event and go back to their "old normal?" I think not.  It was an exhausting but apparently professionally fulfilling season.  But, everyone needs to agree, to reunite.  For a while, at least, the music will get beyond the large metropolitan areas, of C50 and, reach many of those who were unable to see the reunion, because of distance or other circumstances.  

The door has been opened with C50.  All the guys worked so well together on this undertaking, that they deserve support and space to decompress and regroup when the time is right for all.    

[Dave in KC]

Do you believe your own eyes? I wouldn't if you perceive Mike as short. Not by any stretch.

Well, I'm 6'3" and Mike seemed considerably shorter than me at the time.  Looking at the picture again, I guess I was wrong.  Bruce on the other hand...

Substance abuse?

[Shady]

AGD hit the nail on the head, tragically.

I can't hide it, I'm devastated.

[Dave in KC]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

I agree. The man who has made all this possible wants to continue on, yet people seem giddy that they don't make another album or tour again.

That was then. This is now. Chances are he's forgotten about what he said. Doesn't make his intention any less real, but Brian lives in the moment, and that moment is now in the past. 

The first listen through Summer's Gone and I knew it was over. I don't understand the mystery. It really was painfully obvious. Wasn't it? And I'm not trying to re-start something that has already been hashed out here. At least I thought it was.

[runnersdialzero]

Why the f*** can't people just give up when the world tells them they suck and are no longer relevant the first time around? I wish the Beach Boys would've retired and hopefully been horribly killed in 1966 (after Pet Sounds, the 2nd greatest album of all time the first being every Beatles album tied for first).

I wish they'd die now, in fact. I'm done with them, I don't want new music or new shows from any of them, they're past their prime. I'm just tired of them and really doubt they have anything worthwhile to offer ever again. It's about my needs, y'know. They need to listen to me. The whole world needs to listen to me and bend according to my whims. It can't be Pet Sounds II, I'm confident in this because I know the quality of music that doesn't exist yet, so f*** 'em, I want them gone from this earth, they no longer suit me.

[Sheriff John Stone]

Brian is surrounded by the right people if he wants to make his dreams come true. Or, he can sit back and do nothing, which would make one question how strong those dreams are. Time WILL tell.

[SMiLE Brian]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

Agreed, if the band never does anything again, Mike and Bruce will have cermented themselves as Villians in the BBs story. I am sick and tired of M&B pimping the BBs name and mining Brian's legacy for cheap cash at low rent venues. Mike and Bruce couldn't sell Any tickets using any other name. The BBs should be the all the members that toured this year or no BBs at all.

[HeyJude]

Is this a bad thing, to unplug from the big, fantastic event and go back to their "old normal?" I think not.  It was an exhausting but apparently professionally fulfilling season.  But, everyone needs to agree, to reunite.  For a while, at least, the music will get beyond the large metropolitan areas, of C50 and, reach many of those who were unable to see the reunion, because of distance or other circumstances.  

The door has been opened with C50.  All the guys worked so well together on this undertaking, that they deserve support and space to decompress and regroup when the time is right for all.    

This all sounds good. I do think the "smaller markets" argument is pretty empty though. I think it's a flawed argument to begin with, that at least a good hunk of people couldn't travel to one of the 50 or so shows they did in 2012. But even aside from that, I doubt much of anybody in "non-metropolitan" areas have not had ample opportunities to see Mike's band in the previous 13 years he toured in his normal configuration.

But fundamentally, yes, I think it's a bad thing to pull the plug on an amazing thing like the "C50" band. It was, as I believe Howie Edelson put it, an embarassment of riches. Nothing would make that not the case in 2013.

As an aside, the "C50" tour definitey WAS the only opportunity for most markets to see Al or David in concert. Whether by choice or by circumstance, those guys don't do a lot of gigs. A big part of the success of the C50 tour was a reinvigorated Al Jarding singing his ass off and demonstrating the most in-tact voice of any of the members. Going back to the status quo means we'll be back to not seeing much of Al and David.

[HeyJude]

That was then. This is now. Chances are he's forgotten about what he said. Doesn't make his intention any less real, but Brian lives in the moment, and that moment is now in the past. 

I know that anything Brian said has to be weighed accordingly, but I think this is still minimizing his (and Al's and apparently David's) desire to continue the reunion. It seemed more than a quick passing thought that went away in five minutes. The media firestorm and writing to the LA Times would not have happened if Brian had just thought for ten minutes that he wanted to do more gigs, and then moved on to picking which steak he wanted for lunch.

[HeyJude]

I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I still can't suppress my disbelief as I watch folks on a BB/BW message board delight in the destruction of Brian Wilson's dreams.

Thank you, this is probably the biggest surprise of the whole ordeal. It's not surprising that Mike books more gigs for his band, etc. But that delight, which nobody much seems to admit having, is what disappoints me. I still don't understand where it comes from, and it is IS there. Maybe sometimes I've misinterpreted some fan comments, but not all of them.

[GoofyJeff]

I have absolutely no problem with Mike and Bruce continuing to do tour dates. I've seen their shows a few times and enjoyed them immensely.  My problem is the use of "The Beach Boys" name.  I had hoped, in the wake of the C50 success, that all involved would have continued as a single band.  If not, then I had hoped that they would revisit the license agreement.  Sadly, it would appear neither of those will happen and the dilution of "The Beach Boys" name will continue.

[Dave in KC]

Sadly, yes.
But this is hardly a surprise.
They will still ALWAYS be America's Band.