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One other thing... it seems like the boys just don´t stand close to the mikes??? They should know that to get the voices out there they should do what Jeff does.. HAVE YOUR MOUTH UPCLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE!
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But again, that's up to the sound guys to fix. Some people don't work close to the mic, especially if they're used to doing backgrounds.
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Quote from: Iron Horse-Apples on April 11, 2012, 02:29:29 AM
But again, that's up to the sound guys to fix. Some people don't work close to the mic, especially if they're used to doing backgrounds.
yeah that´s true. And they probably heard themselves good in their earphones to.
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I really doubt jeff abuses Brian like that. Brian needs a minder and Jeff plays that (not easy) role. He seems like a good guy to me and Brian obviously agrees
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Can someone please clarify who was the lead vocal on SSB? Everyone is saying it's Foskett but I have no idea what his head voice sounds like, to me it sounded like Al. As for Foskett's falsetto parts, far too shrill and prominent, turn his mike down next time please!
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Quote from: Paulos on April 11, 2012, 02:36:54 AM
Can someone please clarify who was the lead vocal on SSB? Everyone is saying it's Foskett but I have no idea what his head voice sounds like, to me it sounded like Al. As for Foskett's falsetto parts, far too shrill and prominent, turn his mike down next time please!
I'm pretty sure that's Jeff, layered with a few other unrecognizable voices.
Al should've taken lead on that one.
So, uhh.. about the new record...
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If Brian bottles a line or freaks out, which, you know, is entirely possible considering he is singing acapella in a baseball stadium with 400 things going on around him, you'll hear Jeff. It's well known Jeff covers Brian on more difficult songs, and this certainly qualifies.
So you know whose fault it is that you hear Jeff so much in this? It's Brian's.
He's not dominating. He's just singing his part like he's told to do, and because his voice is in better shape than any Beach Boy besides maybe Al he is heard more. What's he supposed to do? His job (along with, in this instance, Scott and Cowsill) is to keep a bunch of 70 year old men with varying degrees of decayed voices together in an extremely high pressure scenario. Of course, the shitty mixing here doesn't help whatsoever, and the absence of Mike and Bruce is inexcusable. But it's all about Brian I suppose.
But absolutely no-one here is ragging on Scott B or Cowsill. Wonder why.....
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Quote from: Paulos on April 11, 2012, 02:36:54 AM
Can someone please clarify who was the lead vocal on SSB? Everyone is saying it's Foskett but I have no idea what his head voice sounds like, to me it sounded like Al. As for Foskett's falsetto parts, far too shrill and prominent, turn his mike down next time please!
In the beginning it sounds like Al.. than it sounds like Foskett.. weird. Dunno.
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Yeah, I could pick out Al and Jeff most prominently. Jeff kinda takes over as it gets going/Al probably moves to a harmony part.
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Quote from: ontor pertawst on October 06, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
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Quote from: hypehat on April 11, 2012, 04:08:53 AM
If Brian bottles a line or freaks out, which, you know, is entirely possible considering he is singing acapella in a baseball stadium with 400 things going on around him, you'll hear Jeff. It's well known Jeff covers Brian on more difficult songs, and this certainly qualifies.
So you know whose fault it is that you hear Jeff so much in this? It's Brian's.
He's not dominating. He's just singing his part like he's told to do, and because his voice is in better shape than any Beach Boy besides maybe Al he is heard more. What's he supposed to do? His job (along with, in this instance, Scott and Cowsill) is to keep a bunch of 70 year old men with varying degrees of decayed voices together in an extremely high pressure scenario. Of course, the sh*tty mixing here doesn't help whatsoever, and the absence of Mike and Bruce is inexcusable. But it's all about Brian I suppose.
But absolutely no-one here is ragging on Scott B or Cowsill. Wonder why.....
Exactly! Cowsill has a very powerful voice. I think he's singing unison with Jeff most of the time during SSB.
But enough with the Foskett bashing for me. You can hear layers of beauty underneath the lead and we'll get loads of it in the tour and, specially, the album.
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Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
Brian/Al - 50%
Mike/Bruce - Are they singing?
have to say I wouldnt be able to recognise David Marks voice but he looks like he is belting out the anthem
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Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
Brian/Al - 50%
Mike/Bruce - Are they singing?
have to say I wouldnt be able to recognise David Marks voice but he looks like he is belting out the anthem
I would agree. Tough to single out Bruce and Mike during SSB. You can hear Dave here and there. As well as Brian. Al's the most prominent actual Beach Boy. It's mainly Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett. But the reasons for this are clear, and have
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The 5 Boys are in pretty good vocal shape these days - it's gonna show on the album and especially when they hit the stage. No worries.
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Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
Brian/Al - 50%
Mike/Bruce - Are they singing?
have to say I wouldnt be able to recognise David Marks voice but he looks like he is belting out the anthem
There's no reason not to have Mike audible, his bass vocals would have sounded amazing rolling round that stadium just like they did at the Grammy's. I'm sure it's mainly Cowsill underneath Jeff's vocal when they break away from the unison singing in TSSB.
David hasn't got a really strong voice but it's quite distinctive when you hear him sing lead. He'd do well on a song like Love Surrounds Me...take the hint guys and play it on the tour!
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i think foskett would be better if he just calmed down his delivery a bit. he doesn't sing it sweetly/softly enough
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Quote from: Runaways on April 11, 2012, 05:33:13 AM
i think foskett would be better if he just calmed down his delivery a bit. he doesn't sing it sweetly/softly enough
You know what Murry would have to say to him...
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Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
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Brian/Al - 50%
Mike/Bruce - Are they singing?
have to say I wouldnt be able to recognise David Marks voice but he looks like he is belting out the anthem
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Thanks for the videos !!
I haven't gone through all the pages, but here are my thoughts.
First, Jeffrey is mixed way too loud and maybe the only one who is real close to the mic. You can see Brian far away from his own at some points. What you can hear of the boys sounds good though. I think I can hear Bruce on Surfer girl and Brian is audible behind Foskett on the anthem. But whoever sticks out, there's that warm and lush bed of harmonies in the background that's so special about the Beach Boys. They seem to be in good shape vocally and after working so much on the album that was to be expected. I said it in another thread, I'm glad that they more or less go from the studio straight on stage because that way their voices are in form. I just hope that the mixes at the concerts are less heavy on Jeffrey. His voice is very important - no question about that. But at this performance it overshadowes the others and doesn't seem part of the bed of harmony. Bring it on guys !
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Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
I don't remember seeing Kirsch there.
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Quote from: Mikie on April 11, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
I don't rememner seeing Kirsch there.
Kirsch, Cowsill, whatever....
No, you're right. Didn't even notice the mistake.
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Quote from: Mikie on April 11, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
I don't rememner seeing Kirsch there.
That's because he wasn't there.
Here's an article about yesterday. Is that Carl's son on the last picture?
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_20368076/beach-boys-and-dodgers-at-50-good-vibrations
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Quote from: Rocker on April 11, 2012, 06:36:45 AM
Quote from: Mikie on April 11, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
I don't rememner seeing Kirsch there.
That's because he wasn't there.
Here's an article about yesterday. Is that Carl's son on the last picture?
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_20368076/beach-boys-and-dodgers-at-50-good-vibrations
Yeah Justyn was there with his mum apparently.
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Quote from: Rocker on April 11, 2012, 06:26:41 AM
Thanks for the videos !!
I haven't gone through all the pages, but here are my thoughts.
First, Jeffrey is mixed way too loud and maybe the only one who is real close to the mic. You can see Brian far away from his own at some points. What you can hear of the boys sounds good though. I think I can hear Bruce on Surfer girl and Brian is audible behind Foskett on the anthem. But whoever sticks out, there's that warm and lush bed of harmonies in the background that's so special about the Beach Boys. They seem to be in good shape vocally and after working so much on the album that was to be expected. I said it in another thread, I'm glad that they more or less go from the studio straight on stage because that way their voices are in form. I just hope that the mixes at the concerts are less heavy on Jeffrey. His voice is very important - no question about that. But at this performance it overshadowes the others and doesn't seem part of the bed of harmony. Bring it on guys !
Rocker - They seemed to be arranged in a formation in front of home plate; I'm a girl, so please indulge me, but it seems that one half of the guys were on one side of a sort of wind tunnel, where, their voices may have been "blown away" before they even hit the mic. They were all singing. You can tell by their physicality. The shirts were really cool. Glad they did that event. Great kick-off with great back stories. Lots of kids have worked as ushers just to get to see the ballgames.
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Quote from: Iron Horse-Apples on April 11, 2012, 02:06:27 AM
Jeff doesn't just dominate the mix, he dominates everything. I've witnessed this first hand, the way he talks to Brian like he's not just a child, but a stupid child. I was shocked. From that point on I've been predisposed not to like the guy. To me he came across as a nasty, arrogant bully. This is in a situation when they thought no fans were present!
There are two sides in the BW camp. The people who treat Brian like a human being, and those who are milking the cash cow. This is not a statement from me, this comes from inside the band. And the inference was that Jeff is on the latter side.
Who knows what goes on, and changes daily in such a complex situation. People have bad days. But what I witnessed was pretty damning.
This is exactly what I mean about Jeff being arrogant! On multiple occasions, I've seen him go out of his way to be a jerk to several die hard fans. I've also seen him be down right mean to Brian.
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Quote from: Rocker on April 11, 2012, 06:36:45 AM
Quote from: Mikie on April 11, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
I don't rememner seeing Kirsch there.
That's because he wasn't there.
Here's an article about yesterday. Is that Carl's son on the last picture?
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_20368076/beach-boys-and-dodgers-at-50-good-vibrations
Yeah Justyn was there with his mum apparently.
It actually looks like Carl came along for the occasion
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Quote from: littlepad on April 11, 2012, 06:58:46 AM
Quote from: Craig Boyd on April 11, 2012, 06:38:50 AM
Quote from: Rocker on April 11, 2012, 06:36:45 AM
Quote from: Mikie on April 11, 2012, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: My Brother Woody on April 11, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Foskett/Kirsch/Bennett - 100%
I don't rememner seeing Kirsch there.
That's because he wasn't there.
Here's an article about yesterday. Is that Carl's son on the last picture?
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_20368076/beach-boys-and-dodgers-at-50-good-vibrations
Yeah Justyn was there with his mum apparently.
It actually looks like Carl came along for the occasion
They should have asked him up to sing with them, that'd be cool!
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