New album info (as it rolls out...)

[I. Spaceman]

To me, the vocals on this record sound more naturalistic than the 85 album, where every single vocal part sounds like it was shoved through a Fairlight. I can hear the processing on the new tunes, but it isn't egregious to my ears.

[Craig Boyd]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

You really can't pick out Adrian's voice by the way so I wouldn't worry too much. The harmonies on Mike's version of Daybreak are really nice. 

[Runaways]

yeah i only clicked on a couple, the only one that i was taken aback by was "from there and back", i was expecting a more "naked" vocal track i suppose.  I'm sure the quality is making it worse.

[CarlTheVoice]

It may be quite easy to forget the main thing here. The Beach Boys are back together making music, enjoying it and giving us some original songs to add to the hundreds of others we have the pleasure of listening to.  

Ok, so songs may not be to everyone's tastes but come on, a lot of us would have never had thought we would be writing about these songs!

My personal faves (so far) are Think About the Days, From There To Back Again, Pacific Coast Highway (lovely harmonies and chords - would have been perfect for Carl!) and Summer's Gone (very Pet Sounds but a fitting end.....).

I'm a very happy young BB fan today.

[southbay]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

You really can't pick out Adrian's voice by the way so I wouldn't worry too much. The harmonies on Mike's version of Daybreak are really nice.  

Fair enough, thanks.  The idea of it still hurts my ears a little, though

[Heysaboda]

 And yes, I appreciated your posts directing us to the record room. Great stuff over there.

Cool. Thank you.

Looks very interesting!  I am going to sign up fir it tonight!

[buddhahat]

Why is it every time I take a day or week off from reading this board that something BIG happens? And what is it with all of you folks who read and post here every blooming day? How in the name of God do you do it? How do you have time to, you know, live your lives and stuff? I will never understand.

Anyway, rant over. I just now listened to these clips and wanted to respond before becoming infected by the backlash and negativity that is inevitably contained in the pages I haven’t read yet (I’m on page 87).

BEAUTIFUL stuff.

Think About The Days: I am shocked, actually, I never expected anything this sensitive, delicate and toned just right. If you think about it, 1985 was the last time that ALL surviving members of the group came together and offered up an original artistic statement of some kind. That’s 26 years ago. This intro to me feels perfectly pitched to open things up after such a long gap. It may not be as compositionally eloquent as “Our Prayer” perhaps (but then, what is?), but I imagine it’s just as effective in its context.

Spring Vacation: LOVE it. It feels like a commercial, with leprechauns splashing around or something, far removed from whatever it advertises, just the echo of a form of something real, but in its wake comes rejuvenation. A real result. Like an “ahhh” after a drink of water. I have no problems with the lyrics. Since their first album on, the Beach Boys have been a billboard for a land that’s “merely” a theme park. The latter-day sum-sum-summer clichés are just a natural extension of that for me, and they work, in the context of these Men/Boys valiantly struggling to reconcile the real with the ideal. Some of my brightest days have been spent at theme parks after all. I love Brian’s swoopy “hallelujah” – some brilliant, goofy phrasing there. I do have to say, though, I HATE the guitar solo. That kind of guitar wankery – that and cheesy sax – those are two things I cannot stomach. But I can forgive. I embrace the positivity. I feel the Love.

Love it, Catbirdman! You should be writing the sleeve notes!

[monicker]

Based on these samples, perhaps an award for Most Inappropriate Use of Autotune As Effect should be given to From There To Back Again.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I have a question for Sir AGD,

I know you've been championing from there and back again, does al sound as robotic on the album? or is it just the amazon.com quality.  That has me scratching my head a bit

Yes, noticed it straight away. And ?

[the professor]

Lads, the amazon samples is up thread is concurrent with this one; ought they be merged?  I will not paste my post here as well, but I did write there about the samples, qv.

Ought we only now post here to unify the thread?

I have all the songs in my head; this is a grand and absolute success.

[Wylson]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

[Rocker]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

Excellent ! I hate it !



And remember this is the kind of stuff that we'd (or some of us) expected Mike to come up with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx3kYj0AsDA&feature=related

[Catbirdman]

I do find the fact that Joe Thomas' name is all over the thing slightly more worrying, but a good half the songs on Imagination were decent to good, so that could still be OK. The credits for Peterik and Bon Jovi are frankly scary, though.

I don't fully understand my own reaction at the developments thus far: looking at past prejudices, I SHOULDN'T like the production. I SHOULD be trembling over the names in the credits. I SHOULD be reeling from the lyrics in "Spring Vacation." But I’m really, really not.

“Imagination” was far from a personal favorite, but I just have this feeling that in this context – getting the old gang back together, owning the 50 fractured years for better or worse, owning the myth and the identity – the aesthetic will be right. Based on what I’ve heard/read, I expect nothing like the nadir of “Sunshine,” a few exceptional songs and moments, and an overall bed of achy/celebratory goo. A bit slick maybe, but RIGHT for the Beach Boys. At least that’s my gut feeling – hopefully I won’t be disappointed.

[Runaways]

I have a question for Sir AGD,

I know you've been championing from there and back again, does al sound as robotic on the album? or is it just the amazon.com quality.  That has me scratching my head a bit

Yes, noticed it straight away. And ?

nothing else, if everyone is still saying it's great, then i'll wait and hear the whole thing

[Craig Boyd]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

Dear god...

[southbay]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

Excellent ! I hate it !





And remember this is the kind of stuff that we'd (or some of us) expected Mike to come up with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx3kYj0AsDA&feature=related
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Yep, that's the voice I never  want to hear again. That is the one.

[Paulos]

Dear god, that was freaking terrible! Listening to Baker's 'falsetto' is the aural equivalent of being slapped square in the balls.

I had to put my post above the quote as the quote function seems to have gone all whackadoodle.

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

[southbay]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

Dear god, that was freaking terrible! Listening to Baker's 'falsetto' is the aural equivalent of being slapped square in the balls.

Matt Jardine set us free in 1993. Literally set us free.

[southbay]

something funky with the quote box going on here

[anders wyller]

According to amazon.jp the bonus track on the japanese edition is Revival of Love (2012 Version) - do I read japanese? No. Google translate usually does.

[Mendota Heights]

According to amazon.jp the bonus track on the japanese edition is Revival of Love (2012 Version) - do I read japanese? No. Google translate usually does.

It's most likely Do It Again.

[Runaways]

i think it was translated by people here and it was "do it again"

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys.  

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

Can you take whatever you want to call this that is distracting from the actual thread outside?

Did you read the part of the conversation that involved Iron Horse-Apples and Runaways? Address that. That was the fight.
I provided a place to find out some of the cool info discussed on this thread. Don't tell me to take anything anywhere. I've been on point in this thread since I joined in.

Hey, Billy, a little help over here?

Billy's a great guy. I'm sure he can see where the problem was.

This thread is for discussing the album, that's all I'm Im asking.  Lets discuss the album , not the language or intentions of other posters.  Do that in pm's.  

100% agreed. At this point, I could give two shits about who started it, just that it gets finished and doesn't end up on the board anymore.

[SBonilla]

"Spring Vacation" seems to borrow a bit of Elton John's "Tiny Dancer".

Ex-CUSE me ? It resembles "TD", even passingly, about as much as "The Star Spangled Banner" sounds like "4.33".

Good one.

Seconded, that was a hilarious response Andrew. Incidentally I think "The Star Spangled Banner" nicks much more from John Lennon's "Two Minutes Silence" than it ever did from "4:33."

You haven't heard the 4 track demo, then.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

With the Adrian Baker talk, this might be a good opportunity to remember how far we've come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNV-eve42M0&feature=

Good fuckin' gravy, that's horrible. I'd rather swallow a gallon of gasoline, get set on fire, and have my ashes snorted by Keith Richards than ever be subjected to that again.