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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2012, 04:01:04 PM »

I knew a girl who was a waitress at a hipster restaurant.

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PBR and their returnable glass bottles got us through college.

it's very strong for a cheap beer ... around here in San Francisco, Eye of the Hawk is the real stuff !
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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2012, 04:03:52 PM »

The Michigan show has a high rep as being a very good show as far as energy and performance goes.  I've only heard it once and can't remember much about it.

The two 67 shows I've heard, and the best way to describe it is as above, a Smiley Smile type of stripped down performance.  Dennis hardly plays drums throughout the show, the drums are very Love You like.  It's nice to hear Gettin' Hungry live, and the performance of Heroes and Villains is nice as it's a stripped down version of the Smiley version with Brian in pretty good voice, though it tails off like a lot of the songs into nothing.  The Letter is a good performance too.  The Baldwin tends to grate at times, I really wonder about some of the sounds chosen for the concert.  Hawthorne Boulevard was a disappointment, it's essentially a Chuck Berry-esque 12 bar instrumental.  You're So Good To Me is a nice version.  The re-recordings from Wally Heider's studio are much much better and it's really interesting to hear the new arrangements of the older songs.  They are worth tracking down and are quite easy to find on the internet.  I prefer the first concert to the second in performance and quality.  Once you've heard the Haiwaii shows it becomes obvious why they were never released at the time.  It'd be a nice historical document now though.  The version of Surfin' also has Brian playing the high wordless vocal line from Do It Again on the Baldwin.

Here's the setlist of the second show (and IIRC the first show is the same)

1. Hawthorne Boulevard
2. Hawaii
3. You're So Good To Me
4. Help Me Rhonda
5. California Girls
6. Wouldn't It Be Nice
7. Gettin Hungry
8. Surfer Girl
9. Surfin'
10. Sloop John B
11. The Letter
12. God Only Knows
13. Good Vibrations
14. Heroes And Villains
15. Barbara Ann

and here's the list of songs re-recorded at Wally Heider's:

God Only Knows
California Girls
Surfer Girl
You’re So Good To Me
The Letter
Help Me Rhonda
Heroes & Villains
Their Hearts Were Full of Spring

And here's the setlist of the Michegan show:

Help Me Rhonda
I Get Around
Surf Medley
Surfer Girl
Papa Oom Mow Mow
You’re So Good to Me
You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away
California Girls
Sloop John B
Wouldn’t It Be Nice
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
Graduation Day
Barbara Ann
Johnny B Goode


Hope that helps.
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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2012, 06:52:25 PM »

I think i have the 66 shows in a SOT box i believe and i found the shows weak +67 weaker..If i was a newbie id start with 68 onward thru to mid 70"s. Better quality shows..With some back up musicians + better arraignments..Then go back to that period + check those out.IMHO
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2012, 06:58:04 PM »

I think i have the 66 shows in a SOT box i believe and i found the shows weak +67 weaker..If i was a newbie id start with 68 onward thru to mid 70"s. Better quality shows..With some back up musicians + better arraignments..Then go back to that period + check those out.IMHO
The Chicago 1965 shows with Brian rock on the live box.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2012, 07:07:43 PM »

I think i have the 66 shows in a SOT box i believe and i found the shows weak +67 weaker..If i was a newbie id start with 68 onward thru to mid 70"s. Better quality shows..With some back up musicians + better arraignments..Then go back to that period + check those out.IMHO

The band sounded good during the November '67 tour. Very good, in fact.
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2012, 07:17:55 PM »

I've found that if you use the word 'hipster', it means you're a hipster ... oops

A couple of hipsters walk into a bar! What do they say?

F$*ck this place, it's full of hipsters!!!!!
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2012, 07:37:57 PM »

Smile  Brian i believe you are right. My stuff is in storage and i cant look at the box in question at the moment.But there were add on"s on the disks at the end and that does sound right i think but im a little fuzzy.Haven't heard that box in 3 years. I felt that BB were still getting used to playing without BW + BJ bass playing was weak + there was To much talking + goofing around on those shows..Ive only heard + own one 67  Hawaii show + its too minimal for me.
I much prefer BJ on keyboards in fact than bass..Great period pieces tho..
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2012, 08:05:27 PM »

The band sounded good during the November '67 tour. Very good, in fact.

Agreed!  This can be verified by listening to 'A Vocal Element'.
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2012, 11:10:08 PM »

The only thing I hate more than hipster jokes

Like the one about the hipster burning his mouth on the hot coffee so he could drink it before it got cool?
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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2012, 11:47:07 PM »

The version of Surfin' also has Brian playing the high wordless vocal line from Do It Again on the Baldwin.

At that point in time, it was a riff he'd nicked from The Frogmen's "Underwater"*.  Smiley

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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2012, 01:12:22 AM »

I like any sixties concert bur even more when Brian was involved. Wish these would have come out at the time.
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2012, 03:31:41 AM »

Be warned, trying to obtain Lei'd in Hawaii is not as easy as you may think. Type it into a search engine and you will have to wade though roughly 10001 references to the song Hawaii.
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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2012, 05:17:20 AM »

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Here's the setlist of the second show (and IIRC the first show is the same)

1. Hawthorne Boulevard
2. Hawaii
3. You're So Good To Me
4. Help Me Rhonda
5. California Girls
6. Wouldn't It Be Nice
7. Gettin Hungry
8. Surfer Girl
9. Surfin'
10. Sloop John B
11. The Letter
12. God Only Knows
13. Good Vibrations
14. Heroes And Villains
15. Barbara Ann
The first show had a slightly different set list:
1. The Letter
2. Hawaii
3. You're So Good To Me
4. Surfer Girl
5. Surfin'
6. Gettin' Hungry
7. Sloop John B
8. California Girls
9. Wouldn't It Be Nice
10. Heroes and Villains
11. God Only Knows
12. Good Vibrations
13. Barbara Ann
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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2012, 05:25:15 AM »

My only exposure to shows from '67 besides the Hawaii gig is the songs that are tacked onto my copy of the Carnegie Hall '72 show. And they sound dreadful - everybody's goofing off, the playing is poor, the audience sound confused..... Guess I'll try and track down 'A Vocal Element'.

The Hawaii shows are wonky, if a little endearing for it. I'd be mad if I was there and paid money for it, though, the band is painfully inept for some reason. I tend to turn to the Heider session for my stripped down fix.
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« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2012, 06:27:51 AM »

My only exposure to shows from '67 besides the Hawaii gig is the songs that are tacked onto my copy of the Carnegie Hall '72 show. And they sound dreadful - everybody's goofing off, the playing is poor, the audience sound confused..... Guess I'll try and track down 'A Vocal Element'.

The Hawaii shows are wonky, if a little endearing for it. I'd be mad if I was there and paid money for it, though, the band is painfully inept for some reason. I tend to turn to the Heider session for my stripped down fix.
I have both shows, its smiley smile the live experience. The band is on drugs and Brian says bizarre things to the crowd during the show. The crowd didn't care about the performances and were cheering like usual.
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« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2012, 07:23:01 AM »

Guess I'll try and track down 'A Vocal Element'.

Highly recommend it.  Soundboard City.
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« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2012, 11:20:20 AM »

Be warned, trying to obtain Lei'd in Hawaii is not as easy as you may think. Type it into a search engine and you will have to wade though roughly 10001 references to the song Hawaii.

then be creative...say like "beach boys lei'd" and whammo...right at the top of the page.  Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2012, 04:37:32 PM »

I agree with hypehat"s post completely.!
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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2012, 03:43:04 AM »

My only exposure to shows from '67 besides the Hawaii gig is the songs that are tacked onto my copy of the Carnegie Hall '72 show. And they sound dreadful - everybody's goofing off, the playing is poor, the audience sound confused..... Guess I'll try and track down 'A Vocal Element'.

The Hawaii shows are wonky, if a little endearing for it. I'd be mad if I was there and paid money for it, though, the band is painfully inept for some reason. I tend to turn to the Heider session for my stripped down fix.

Not having played a live gig for almost four months might have something to do with that.  Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2012, 01:33:18 PM »

I would suggest that you use the search option this board makes available and enter Lei'd In Hawaii or Hawaii Concert 1967  or Michigan 1966...use your imagination for variations. There have been countless discussions on this board and others about this well researched subject. You might also try "google". Pretty much everybody here knows why these albums were never released, and you can too with just a tiny bit of effort.

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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2012, 01:43:10 PM »

My only exposure to shows from '67 besides the Hawaii gig is the songs that are tacked onto my copy of the Carnegie Hall '72 show. And they sound dreadful - everybody's goofing off, the playing is poor, the audience sound confused..... Guess I'll try and track down 'A Vocal Element'.

The Hawaii shows are wonky, if a little endearing for it. I'd be mad if I was there and paid money for it, though, the band is painfully inept for some reason. I tend to turn to the Heider session for my stripped down fix.
I look at these shows as the coda or end to the SMiLE era of the band.
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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2012, 01:53:09 PM »

Im sorry AGD.I disagree with you..4 months between gigs..Its called rehearsal time,,!.You have been very kind to me but BB have never been good at rehearsals..CW has been quoted as sayin the show PLAYS itself..Weather good or bad show,Number one reason the BB go on autopilot, People clap + chear no matter what..Thats because no one could hear half what was played.!We go to a BB show + hear parts that would never be played or sung..Example ..Ending of FFF......Thats a quote from..David Leaf
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« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2012, 02:31:47 PM »

My point exactly - no shows for four months = ring rusty. I seriously doubt they did any rehearsal other than that which they did when they got to Hawaii.
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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2012, 03:24:28 PM »

I would suggest that you use the search option this board makes available and enter Lei'd In Hawaii or Hawaii Concert 1967  or Michigan 1966...use your imagination for variations. There have been countless discussions on this board and others about this well researched subject. You might also try "google". Pretty much everybody here knows why these albums were never released, and you can too with just a tiny bit of effort.

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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2012, 03:26:54 PM »

I would suggest that you use the search option this board makes available and enter Lei'd In Hawaii or Hawaii Concert 1967  or Michigan 1966...use your imagination for variations. There have been countless discussions on this board and others about this well researched subject. You might also try "google". Pretty much everybody here knows why these albums were never released, and you can too with just a tiny bit of effort.

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