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« on: November 28, 2011, 04:41:23 AM »

… in the new issue of Uncut Magazine.

No 3 in Majo's equivalent chart, behind 1) Mickey Newbury's An American Triology {which is at 2 in Uncut's chart} and 2) Iggy Pop & James Williamson's Kill City..

So SMiLE is Uncut's 2004 Album of the Year and 2011's reissue of the year. Neat!
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 04:49:44 AM »

But it's no re-issue, is it ?
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 04:54:30 AM »

They point out that it's hardly a new album either!
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 04:16:34 PM »

Pitchfork named Smile "Best New Re-Issue" as well, which I thought was odd.  Seeing that it received a perfect ten, if it had been classified as "Best New Music" and an actual album it may have competed for Pitchfork's album of the year.  Even with the "re-issue" tag, I believe it's only one of two, maybe three re-issues that have received a ten this year.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 04:21:22 PM »

Could argue this a reissue because it was out on high-end box set sized bootlegs for a while.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 04:31:25 PM »

They could use the more accurate "archival release", but it'd be silly to split hairs. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 11:05:33 PM »

But it's no re-issue, is it ?

Nope - I've searched for an original release of this music under the title Smile: can't find anything.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 11:15:29 PM »

There's also a letter to Uncut's editor from a certain Roy Grudge!
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 03:20:53 AM »

There's also a letter to Uncut's editor from a certain Roy Grudge!

You mean the Mayor of Scunthorpe, as seen in yesterday's Never Mind The Buzzcocks? That stern and unforgiving public servant?
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 03:20:36 PM »

But it's no re-issue, is it ?

Nope - I've searched for an original release of this music under the title Smile: can't find anything.  Smiley

Yeah, I was irked when Pitchfork classified it as such. Just because the music dates back forty five years doesn't automatically make it a "re-issue"
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 02:57:13 AM »

There's also a letter to Uncut's editor from a certain Roy Grudge!

You mean the Mayor of SWord which must not be spokenhorpe, as seen in yesterday's Never Mind The Buzzclocks? That stern and unforgiving public servant?

I did not write this. Well, something like it, but with meaning. But I can take a joke  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 03:43:36 AM »

There's also a letter to Uncut's editor from a certain Roy Grudge!

You mean the Mayor of SWord which must not be spokenhorpe, as seen in yesterday's Never Mind The Buzzclocks? That stern and unforgiving public servant?

I did not write this. Well, something like it, but with meaning. But I can take a joke  Grin

Thanks for that clarification – I was completely flumoxed. In was going to have to watch the entire Buzzc-ocks episode to get a vague Scun-Thorpe reference!  I've gained half an hour back on my life!
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 03:58:06 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 03:59:24 AM »

There's also a letter to Uncut's editor from a certain Roy Grudge!

You mean the Mayor of SWord which must not be spokenhorpe, as seen in yesterday's Never Mind The Buzzclocks? That stern and unforgiving public servant?

I did not write this. Well, something like it, but with meaning. But I can take a joke  Grin

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Thanks for that clarification – I was completely flumoxed. In was going to have to watch the entire Buzzc-ocks episode to get a vague Scun-Thorpe reference!  I've gained half an hour back on my life!


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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2011, 09:50:16 AM »

SMiLE was the reissue/archival issue of the Millennium.

Duh!
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 09:56:37 AM »

Isn't it a re-issue because 90% of it was on the GV-Boxset?
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2011, 02:10:11 PM »

Isn't it a re-issue because 90% of it was on the GV-Boxset?

Well if you count the four CD's filled with session material, then no.  Depends on how you classify the album I suppose, seeing that there were multiple release methods.
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2011, 04:15:34 PM »

It's technically a re-imagining of BWPS, which was in turn was a re-imagining of an abandoned project; but the new re-imagining uses tapes from the abandoned project.

Sort of like:

Da Vinci abandons Mona Lisa unfinished

Da Vinci comes back 37 years later and does a fresh painting based on the original idea

Da Vinci comes back another 7 years later with a retouch of the original painting with some fly-ins from a later painting, some of which were sketched by his brother who had died in the interim.

Carol Kaye falsely claims she was the original model.

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2011, 04:40:37 PM »


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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2011, 12:02:50 AM »

Isn't it a re-issue because 90% of it was on the GV-Boxset?

Well if you count the four CD's filled with session material, then no.  Depends on how you classify the album I suppose, seeing that there were multiple release methods.

Yea sorry, I meant 90%-98% of the first disc of TSS. I consider it a reissue of the GV-box. Because you could think of it as a main disc and four additional deluxe/bonus discs.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2011, 02:00:43 AM »

It's technically a re-imagining of BWPS, which was in turn was a re-imagining of an abandoned project; but the new re-imagining uses tapes from the abandoned project.

Sort of like:

Da Vinci abandons Mona Lisa unfinished

Da Vinci comes back 37 years later and does a fresh painting based on the original idea

Da Vinci comes back another 7 years later with a retouch of the original painting with some fly-ins from a later painting, some of which were sketched by his brother who had died in the interim.

Carol Kaye falsely claims she was the original model.

Mike Love says Da Vinci was too obscure and he always preferred Andy Warhol.

 LOL brilliant. Fly-ins from a later painting...
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2011, 02:08:49 AM »

Regarding all the comments that it's "not really a re-issue" or that it's more of an archival release, etc etc, we really have to go with what the mags decide. Can't keep moving the goalposts until we get what we want.

We can safely say it's the 5CD, 2LP & 2x45rpm, With Repro Booklet, Poster & Hardback Book In A 3D Box Release of the Year.

I'm happy with that!  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2011, 02:18:43 AM »

Regarding all the comments that it's "not really a re-issue" or that it's more of an archival release, etc etc, we really have to go with what the mags decide. Can't keep moving the goalposts until we get what we want.

We can safely say it's the 5CD, 2LP & 2x45rpm, With Repro Booklet, Poster & Hardback Book In A 3D Box Release of the Year.

I'm happy with that!  Grin

Should we make that a new general category then? For every year to come? Like: Best 100-Year-Old Indian Marathon Runner Of The Year?

Results with that man are fairly predictable.
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