SPOILER!!- Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations from TSS

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Can anyone make out the split second at the beginning of H&V? Right when you hit play, before the song starts, there is like 0.002 seconds of whatever comes before it. You think the flutter tone bookends the song? If so, it doesn't bleed into the song. Or it could be the ringing out of the last chord on tack piano in Gee. Or something else entirely? Or i need to get a life?

I noticed that too and it sounded the last bit of Gee to me, which is exciting. I can't wait to hear it all together.

[hypehat]

so.... three Smile tracks have leaked? 

[Dunderhead]

so.... three Smile tracks have leaked? 

?

[monicker]

Can anyone make out the split second at the beginning of H&V? Right when you hit play, before the song starts, there is like 0.002 seconds of whatever comes before it. You think the flutter tone bookends the song? If so, it doesn't bleed into the song. Or it could be the ringing out of the last chord on tack piano in Gee. Or something else entirely? Or i need to get a life?

I noticed that too and it sounded the last bit of Gee to me, which is exciting. I can't wait to hear it all together.

Can you show that split second sound at the beginning next to the beginning of the flutter tone horn at the end in order to compare? To me that sound at the beginning sounds like the ending of the horn, not like the last chord of Gee, which, if so, would be interesting that they're bookending the song with it.

[hypehat]

so.... three Smile tracks have leaked? 

?

People clamoring over the microsecond of 'Gee' just seemed a little absurd....

[AllIWannaDo]

Can anyone make out the split second at the beginning of H&V? Right when you hit play, before the song starts, there is like 0.002 seconds of whatever comes before it. You think the flutter tone bookends the song? If so, it doesn't bleed into the song. Or it could be the ringing out of the last chord on tack piano in Gee. Or something else entirely? Or i need to get a life?

I noticed that too and it sounded the last bit of Gee to me, which is exciting. I can't wait to hear it all together.

Can you show that split second sound at the beginning next to the beginning of the flutter tone horn at the end in order to compare? To me that sound at the beginning sounds like the ending of the horn, not like the last chord of Gee, which, if so, would be interesting that they're bookending the song with it.

I've noticed it too! good to see it in Wave form, makes it easier to see whether my ears are playing tricks on me or not. just thinkn,might be interesting to see what the 3 other Wave's will look like? be interesting to see it as i hear it.  might have a check on this when i get a min

[37!ws]

Are you all talking about the same H&V that was part of the video contest??? The one with the new string ending???

Because the one I have doesn't have anything like that. Screen shot of waveform is below. It absolutely has NOTHING before the word "I've." Dead silence.

[SloopJohnB]

Are you all talking about the same H&V that was part of the video contest??? The one with the new string ending???

Because the one I have doesn't have anything like that. Screen shot of waveform is below. It absolutely has NOTHING before the word "I've." Dead silence.

Same with mine. The waveform is COMPLETELY flat before "I've been in this town...". 


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[P.J.]

I sat in the front row at the first concert, so got to sit just feet away from Brian as he unveiled SMiLE for the first time. That was unreal. This box will be on a par with that.

I have never envied anyone more than now...

[P.J.]

That's the beauty of all this.  Even if they're doing something that's not exactly the way we'd do it, we're getting a treasure trove of pristine-quality Smile material with which we can do whatever we want.

Amen brotha, Amen!

[SamMcK]

People are posting waveforms? I hope Smiley Smile isn't turning into the SteveHoffman forum 

[SloopJohnB]

People are posting waveforms? I hope Smiley Smile isn't turning into the SteveHoffman forum 

 

[monicker]

so.... three Smile tracks have leaked? 

?

People clamoring over the microsecond of 'Gee' just seemed a little absurd....

I don't know that i would say people other than i were clamoring. And a little absurd? It's totally absurd.

P.S. That's really interesting and weird that some people's file doesn't have the little tidbit. Please note that when i say "tidbit" i mean it's literally like half of a second. Hence the absurdity of this. But if your file DOES have it, and you listen to the ending of the flutter tone horn at the end and then start it up again immediately, it sounds like it's the same sound.

[Mr. Cohen]

I might piece this together myself... but just so you know, you can combine the cantina sequence from the newly released "H&V" and with commonly available bootlegs to make a high quality version of the February acetate version of "H&V". Before, high quality versions of some of the overdubs on the cantina version were missing.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Because of the "Disbelief" I decided to take a closer look...

The microsecond beginning IS the solo trombone "Da, Dada-daada-daaa-da-daa-dada-da".

I Have proof here:

First, I find the wave form by Zooming in Audacity...


Then, I isolate it...


Then, I BOOST IT as much as possible...


Then I hear THIS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?u9v74o0cvoxguv2

Now, it is hard to tell what it is, but it does sound A BIT like the trombones we already know...


So.... any non-believers?

[Runaways]

 

[37!ws]

Count me in as a non-believer.....because it's NOT ON MY COPY. Seriously, where are you people getting this from??

[monicker]

Listen with (good) headphones. And listen loudly. It's there. There's no way that some people's file would have it and others wouldn't. You're just not hearing it. It's VERY QUIET and EXTREMELY SHORT. And it doesn't matter. It's just the very tail end of the decay of the last note of the trombone. Just like BWPS 

[monicker]

Mark could have indexed the tracks just a tad more accurately, aye?  God, i am so neurotic. When's November 1st again?

[Ron]

Just to tease everybody; when I went and downloaded those two songs, I signed up, downloaded each, and after "Heroes and Villians" was downloaded, I went ahead and hit "Play".  Oddly enough, it started halfway through the first word.  Like almost a second was missing.  So I thought "Oh, my computer is tripping".  So I stopped the song, and started it again.  ONCE AGAIN, it starts in the middle of the first word.

I thought it was strange as hell, because how would you make a music video with it, missing the very first part of the song?  So I chalked it up to maybe this is just to give you an idea, and they'll give you a better version later on.

So My opinion?  Somebody, possibly (this is ridiculous) put the song out with a little piece before it accidentally; then clipped too much off (my version), then got it right and that's the version other people have.

Am I crazy?  You can tell me if I'm crazy.  The song's downloaded on my work computer so I'll check it .... urgh... TUESDAY when I go back.

[monicker]

You are crazy, Ron. It's okay, i am crazy too. Are you on a mac or PC? On a mac, for example, if you play an mp3 on the stand alone player VLC, it often does just what you have described, cut off just a fraction of the very first second. This is only, though, how it's played; it's not something in the file itself. I bet you if you burn the file onto a CD, it'll sound fine. There's NO WAY that someone heard this file and thought that it was revealing too much of what comes before H&V. What we've (mainly i) been talking about is insane. It's nothing. If this were video, it would be like 9 frames, a minuscule flash. I'm just bored. The people who say they don't have it are just not hearing it.

[Ron]

I was playing it on a PC, on windows media player.  I use windows media player all day long to play mp3's and never have any trouble.  I'll check the file out when I get back to work though, and see what the dealio is. 

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Lol, maybe it's your sound card or somthing, it's definitely there!

[STE]

I can confirm that that little sound is on my copy as well, Father is not crazy!

[Andrew G. Doe]

People are posting waveforms? I hope Smiley Smile isn't turning into the SteveHoffman forum 

Yeah - be very careful or Capitol will pitch a hissyfit, threaten to pull the set and then I'll have to lie to you for them to keep everything on track. Happened before y'know.