Jim Morrison and the Beach Boys

[jabba2]

Supposedly Jim wanted to collaborate with Brian on an idea he had about a song. I think he wanted a Wall of Sound type track, but could never get ahold of Brian. (this was after Pet Sounds and probably SMiLE). Im wonderng if anyone else has a Jim Morrison or Doors and Beach Boys story.

[buddhahat]

I think he was a big Wild Honey fan, which I always thought was cool.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Supposedly Jim wanted to collaborate with Brian on an idea he had about a song. I think he wanted a Wall of Sound type track, but could never get ahold of Brian. (this was after Pet Sounds and probably SMiLE). Im wonderng if anyone else has a Jim Morrison or Doors and Beach Boys story.

On Morrison's original Elektra press bio, he states he's a Beach Boys fan. He also states that both his parents are dead. Just sayin'. 

[Jay]

Supposedly Jim wanted to collaborate with Brian on an idea he had about a song. I think he wanted a Wall of Sound type track, but could never get ahold of Brian. (this was after Pet Sounds and probably SMiLE). Im wonderng if anyone else has a Jim Morrison or Doors and Beach Boys story.

On Morrison's original Elektra press bio, he states he's a Beach Boys fan. He also states that both his parents are dead. Just sayin'. 

On the same Elektra bio, Robby Krieger's name is mispelled.  I can't really see Jim getting to heavily into The Beach Boys. Although, the group's 1965 demo tape does seem to have some surf music influences.

[lance]

I think that the Beach Boys are a subtle influence on the Doors. Possibly more on Krieger than Morrison, though.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Jim l,oved the Beach Boys. That time he revealed his penis onstage was an attempt to top some of Mike's more outlandish stage routines.

[18thofMay]

The lizard king came to me in a dream. The moon was full, they all were. He looked at me flicked his hair and started to walk off, turned and said "touch me!" "Thats my Wilson tune". I was touched!
Not to touch the Earth would of been a great song for Brian to work on!

[rab2591]

Wild Honey's organ playing really reminds me of The Doors. As has been alluded to above I think the band bio in The Doors LP had Wild Honey listed as Jim's favorite album.

The sound of Wild Honey is all over The Doors.

BTW, does anyone have any more info on the original story (about Jim wanting Brian to help him with a song)? That would be the ultimate collaboration, imo.

[18thofMay]

Just did a quick Google search and found this blog.
http://manson.freeforums.org/jim-morrison-t31.html

[egon spengler]

If I'm remembering correctly, I believe one of the blurbs in LLVS is about Morrison saying that he prefers the Beach Boys to the Beatles.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

An elf appeared to me last night and told me that when Brian wrote My Solution, Jim Morrison was there in spirit.

[Rocker]

Dennis and Jim Morrison once got into a fight iirc

[guitarfool2002]

The one I can think of is a piece of audio I have on an October 1967 KHJ aircheck tape where Jim Morrison is reading an ad for "Cheetah" magazine which featured an article on Brian Wilson. It's not Jim's own words - he's reading ad copy and it sounds like he just woke up and someone gave him the words to read.

I think Brian Wilson's music was an influence across the board especially when it was new in the 60's. Brian was known around the musician circles for making great sounding records, and whether a few negative quotes from people like Hendrix have been reprinted through the years, Brian had most everyone's ears and respect who was making music in the 60's, and that would have included The Doors.

[Loaf]

JIm went to university in Florida, and in L.A. he lived rough on the beach for a while. How could he avoid the music of the BBs? It must have been a constant presence.

[Jon Stebbins]

There is a well circulated story of Dennis punching out Jim Morrison outside of the Whisky, apparently Morrison was heckling the band on stage and Dennis suggested they take it outside. Eric Burdon was involved in this fracas, I think Ed Roach was there and/or he's one of the orig. sources of this story. Also Dennis' first wife Carole dated Morrison, which may have added to the tension. But Dennis liked the Doors music apparently, he wanted to write music in that vein according to Stan Shapiro. Slip On Through is a nod to Break On Through. There is additional Morrison/Dennis connection. Also the Dave Marks book has a Dave/Doors story from '66.

[Rocker]

JIm went to university in Florida, and in L.A. he lived rough on the beach for a while. How could he avoid the music of the BBs? It must have been a constant presence.

I remember a quote in which he said that the Beach Boys were the reason he came to California.
Anyway:


Morrison's 1966 Elektra bio

FAVORITE SINGING GROUPS: Beach Boys, Kinks, Love
INDIVIDUAL SINGERS: Sinatra, Presley


Frank Lisciandro, a very close friend of Morrison, said this: But Jim really, really loved the Beach Boys, and he loved Elvis.

After that he goes on about how they went to a Elvis-show in Miami in 1970

[Jason]

The sound of Wild Honey is all over The Doors.

You do know that The Doors' first album was recorded over a year before Wild Honey?

[kookadams]

The one I can think of is a piece of audio I have on an October 1967 KHJ aircheck tape where Jim Morrison is reading an ad for "Cheetah" magazine which featured an article on Brian Wilson. It's not Jim's own words - he's reading ad copy and it sounds like he just woke up and someone gave him the words to read.

I think Brian Wilson's music was an influence across the board especially when it was new in the 60's. Brian was known around the musician circles for making great sounding records, and whether a few negative quotes from people like Hendrix have been reprinted through the years, Brian had most everyone's ears and respect who was making music in the 60's, and that would have included The Doors.

Of course Morrison was a Beach Boys fan, anyone in there right mind is. And as far as
Hendrix goes, he was referring to the fact that Dick Dale was ill in the hospital at the time, hence "you'll never hear surf music again..." Hendrix's 2 biggest influences were Chuck Berry and Dick Dale.

[OBLiO]

And as far as Hendrix goes, he was referring to the fact that Dick Dale was ill in the hospital at the time, hence "you'll never hear surf music again..."

Do you remember where you saw this? Was it interview or print? I have read and seen interviews but never saw this or maybe it went by me. Thanks.


edit: The reason I ask is that guitarfool2002 is correct that it is has become a negative commentary on surf music. One little statement in a song taken out of context and had an entirely different meaning, but had obvious influence.

[Roger Ryan]

And as far as Hendrix goes, he was referring to the fact that Dick Dale was ill in the hospital at the time, hence "you'll never hear surf music again..."

Do you remember where you saw this? Was it interview or print? I have read and seen interviews but never saw this or maybe it went by me. Thanks.


edit: The reason I ask is that guitarfool2002 is correct that it is has become a negative commentary on surf music. One little statement in a song taken out of context and had an entirely different meaning, but had obvious influence.

I'm wondering if this is simply apocryphal? I've heard Dick Dale himself tell this story and it's possible that he had assumed Hendrix was referring to his illness. Dale himself did a cover recording of Hendrix's "Third Stone From The Sun" a while back in which he spoke at the beginning "Hey Jimi, I'm still here...wish you were". The bottom line is: regardless of whether Hendrix meant the line as a cryptic message regarding Dale, he was an admirer of Dale's guitar playing and I doubt Hendrix intended the line to be boastful or dismissive.

[OBLiO]

http://www.surfermag.com/features/king-of-surf-guitar-dick-dale-%E2%80%9Cyou%E2%80%99ll-never-hear-surf-music-again-that%E2%80%99s-a-big-lie%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%93-jimi-hendrix/

found it... Dick Dale Interview and in case the link goes away:

"I had never missed a gig in my life, and I had a temperature of 104, and I couldn’t even talk…and had got hit real bad with rectal cancer. Jimi was recording in the studio and said, “I heard Dale did a no-show. That’s not like him. You know?”

His guitar player said, “No man, he’s dying.”

They had given me three months to live.

Then Jimi said, “You’ll never hear surf music again.” And then he said, “I bet that’s a big lie. Let’s pack up, boys, and go home.”

That was the full f–king sentence."

[OBLiO]

I doubt Hendrix intended the line to be boastful or dismissive.

I doubt it too.. but I do remember people taking it that way.. as a dismissive... or a thing to knock surf music. The line is a sign of respect... wish I was armed with that bit o' knowledge when I heard the knock.

[guitarfool2002]

I was thinking of the interview - I don't recall where it was - where Hendrix commented on Heroes And Villains with this statement: "Don't much care for the Beach Boys. They remind me of a psychedelic barbershop quartet."

 I've seen that quote reprinted to suggest Hendrix wasn't a fan in general, where obviously as shown above the story with his "...never hear surf music..." was blown way out of proportion through the years (and several books too). I can't think of any other comments from Hendrix suggesting he liked or disliked the band, but that one about Heroes is the one I had in mind. Maybe someone can step in and find some more quotes from Jimi.

[hypehat]

Hendrix is insane, imo, for referring as psychedelic barbershop as anything other than a good thing

[Runaways]

that quote seems pretty definitive.