SMiLE Sessions box set!

[runnersdialzero]

Did some googling of our favorite subject and found a spreadsheet of what appears to be a recent EMI catalog...
http://prorock.ro/media/PRECOMENZI-MUZICA-EMI.xls

Obviously, we know by now that the 8/8/2011 release date isn't happening, but it's interesting that they list three items:

(T)HE SMILE SESSIONS (BOX SET LTD EDITION, ONE-OFF  (No. 5099902765822).  Number of units: 8 (Mixed)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766324) Number of units: 2 (Compact disc)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766621) Number of units: 1 (Compact disc)

This last item is intriguing, as I don't think that we've heard anything about a single CD release, have we?  Perhaps there's an error and No. 5099902766621 is really the vinyl?

8 units on the boxset?
does this mean 8 cd's? now that is an exciting prospect!!!
probly a DVD, 1 CD Basic album, but on the box that still leaves 6units, even if 2 are vinyl for a double album, thats 4CD's potentially of outtakes?

or am i wrong?

No, it means there will only be eight box sets available total. They will be packaged inside of an active beehive inside a cage full of wolves high on angel dust imo.

[bgas]

Did some googling of our favorite subject and found a spreadsheet of what appears to be a recent EMI catalog...
http://prorock.ro/media/PRECOMENZI-MUZICA-EMI.xls

Obviously, we know by now that the 8/8/2011 release date isn't happening, but it's interesting that they list three items:

(T)HE SMILE SESSIONS (BOX SET LTD EDITION, ONE-OFF  (No. 5099902765822).  Number of units: 8 (Mixed)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766324) Number of units: 2 (Compact disc)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766621) Number of units: 1 (Compact disc)

This last item is intriguing, as I don't think that we've heard anything about a single CD release, have we?  Perhaps there's an error and No. 5099902766621 is really the vinyl?

8 units on the boxset?
does this mean 8 cd's? now that is an exciting prospect!!!
probly a DVD, 1 CD Basic album, but on the box that still leaves 6units, even if 2 are vinyl for a double album, thats 4CD's potentially of outtakes?

or am i wrong?

No, it means there will only be eight box sets available total. They will be packaged inside of an active beehive inside a cage full of wolves high on angel dust imo.

Cool. I'm guaranteed one of them,

[rab2591]

Did some googling of our favorite subject and found a spreadsheet of what appears to be a recent EMI catalog...
http://prorock.ro/media/PRECOMENZI-MUZICA-EMI.xls

Obviously, we know by now that the 8/8/2011 release date isn't happening, but it's interesting that they list three items:

(T)HE SMILE SESSIONS (BOX SET LTD EDITION, ONE-OFF  (No. 5099902765822).  Number of units: 8 (Mixed)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766324) Number of units: 2 (Compact disc)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766621) Number of units: 1 (Compact disc)

This last item is intriguing, as I don't think that we've heard anything about a single CD release, have we?  Perhaps there's an error and No. 5099902766621 is really the vinyl?

8 units on the boxset?
does this mean 8 cd's? now that is an exciting prospect!!!
probly a DVD, 1 CD Basic album, but on the box that still leaves 6units, even if 2 are vinyl for a double album, thats 4CD's potentially of outtakes?

or am i wrong?

No, it means there will only be eight box sets available total. They will be packaged inside of an active beehive inside a cage full of wolves high on angel dust imo.

LOL THAT made my night

[Dunderhead]

I wish they would have done something cool to promote this release like maybe set up a blog or a twitter or something. They could have let the fans vote on a tracklist, or maybe vote on which songs would be on the "singles" or maybe do like an interview with Brian and/or Van Dyke and let us fans submit/vote on what questions should be asked, or what about a contest to win the first box set off the line, they could have even solicited essays or other content. There's all types of promotion they could have done to keep us in the loop and engaged with this project but of course we're still totally in the dark.

[rab2591]

I wish they would have done something cool to promote this release like maybe set up a blog or a twitter or something. They could have let the fans vote on a tracklist, or maybe vote on which songs would be on the "singles" or maybe do like an interview with Brian and/or Van Dyke and let us fans submit/vote on what questions should be asked, or what about a contest to win the first box set off the line, they could have even solicited essays or other content. There's all types of promotion they could have done to keep us in the loop and engaged with this project but of course we're still totally in the dark.

They still can...Which reminds me:

Remember on the 40th anniversary of Pet Sounds there was a podcast that was released with interviews of the bandmembers about Pet Sounds? - they did a track-by-track commentary. Possibly Brian is going to the Studio in September to record a podcast with the other Boys?

I really think that in the coming month we'll see a lot of media commotion surround this album. This is a major release both for radical fans and for casual fans - so Capitol is keeping their cards close until they feel the time is right to announce the goodies....and they have been peppering us radical fans with goodies (GV, Heroes and Villains 78...MOJO single with obvious re-mixing).

I'm fairly certain that in 12 days we'll be able to say "SMiLE is coming out the month after next"

[Andrew G. Doe]

I wish they would have done something cool to promote this release like maybe set up a blog or a twitter or something. They could have let the fans vote on a tracklist, or maybe vote on which songs would be on the "singles" or maybe do like an interview with Brian and/or Van Dyke and let us fans submit/vote on what questions should be asked, or what about a contest to win the first box set off the line, they could have even solicited essays or other content. There's all types of promotion they could have done to keep us in the loop and engaged with this project but of course we're still totally in the dark.

Maybe that's the game plan ? They know this thing really doesn't need much promo to its target demographic.

[The Heartical Don]

I wish they would have done something cool to promote this release like maybe set up a blog or a twitter or something. They could have let the fans vote on a tracklist, or maybe vote on which songs would be on the "singles" or maybe do like an interview with Brian and/or Van Dyke and let us fans submit/vote on what questions should be asked, or what about a contest to win the first box set off the line, they could have even solicited essays or other content. There's all types of promotion they could have done to keep us in the loop and engaged with this project but of course we're still totally in the dark.

Maybe that's the game plan ? They know this thing really doesn't need much promo to its target demographic.

Spot on. It's one of these occasions where a sales campaign will make very little difference as to the number of items eventually sold. In this respect it's like precious art reproductions, or fine editions of classic books, or superb and pricey furniture. The cognoscenti will know, and will purchase. The world at large will remain indifferent. The double disk set will be most deserving of promotion, I think, as it's something able to convert a number of people.

[Peter Reum]

I agree with HD....I think his assessment is spot on...

[Winston Wrong]

Did some googling of our favorite subject and found a spreadsheet of what appears to be a recent EMI catalog...
http://prorock.ro/media/PRECOMENZI-MUZICA-EMI.xls

Obviously, we know by now that the 8/8/2011 release date isn't happening, but it's interesting that they list three items:

(T)HE SMILE SESSIONS (BOX SET LTD EDITION, ONE-OFF  (No. 5099902765822).  Number of units: 8 (Mixed)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766324) Number of units: 2 (Compact disc)
THE SMILE SESSIONS (No. 5099902766621) Number of units: 1 (Compact disc)

This last item is intriguing, as I don't think that we've heard anything about a single CD release, have we?  Perhaps there's an error and No. 5099902766621 is really the vinyl?

8 units on the boxset?
does this mean 8 cd's? now that is an exciting prospect!!!
probly a DVD, 1 CD Basic album, but on the box that still leaves 6units, even if 2 are vinyl for a double album, thats 4CD's potentially of outtakes?

or am i wrong?

No, it means there will only be eight box sets available total. They will be packaged inside of an active beehive inside a cage full of wolves high on angel dust imo.

What about the Sharks with fricken laser beams attached to their heads... or could they only find ill-tempered Sea Bass....

[chris.metcalfe]

Can someone start a new thread when they actually know something? 

[bgas]

Better yet, let's shoot for 200 Pages!!  There's still plenty of time, everyone just has to step up to the plate more often. 

[guitarfool2002]

Just to chime in: Anyone who may be somewhat new to Smile and the kind of digging and researching which Smile fan-dom usually leads to could find a treasure trove of information - solid, factual information sometimes confirmed or debunked in the process of the thread itself - contained right here in this very thread. I've learned quite a few new things, I tried to get some stuff on the discussion tables that hasn't been discussed much, and it's still a work in progress. This and a few other related threads are pretty comprehensive on some smaller details of the Smile saga, and it's a very cool thing to have available.

I'm just saying that because reading about release dates and whether or not someone can post a firm date for this box set to hit the stores no longer seems like it can be the overall, main purpose of this thread topic, although to each his own. Again, I'm just sayin'...spouting off, whatever...if you come here constantly looking for a fucking release date and not finding one, there's a whole bunch of really neat stuff you're missing if that's all this thread represents.  

[Jason]

Then let us have 38 pages about cricket matches, Japan upsetting the United States in the Women's World Cup finals, Jeremy Clarkson as Lawrence of Incompetence, and the fact that the San Francisco Giants have a pitcher who shares a name with a certain Beach Boy and has a beard that has become part of pop culture. It's only fair in the context of this thread and its random veering into off-topic territory.

[guitarfool2002]

Then let us have 38 pages about cricket matches, Japan upsetting the United States in the Women's World Cup finals, Jeremy Clarkson as Lawrence of Incompetence, and the fact that the San Francisco Giants have a pitcher who shares a name with a certain Beach Boy and has a beard that has become part of pop culture. It's only fair in the context of this thread and its random veering into off-topic territory.

Of course, I said "to each his own" but it seems like a waste of some very good research, conversation, and the whole Smile research vibe where folks argue, agree, debate, veer off topic, and once in awhile produce something genuinely new and interesting as a result, if this thread is considered a stop-off to check in on a release date and complain when no one has it yet. Again, that's just me, if this thread is such a place to ask if anyone has a release date or say why doesn't someone have a release date, to each his own.

[Dunderhead]

Phil Cohen will have the last laugh yet.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Phil Cohen will have the last laugh yet.

I can safely say, that is not going to happen. Fact.

[Sam_BFC]

Then let us have 38 pages about...the fact that the San Francisco Giants have a pitcher who shares a name with a certain Beach Boy...It's only fair in the context of this thread and its random veering into off-topic territory.

Also not forgetting the Colchester United midfielder, formerly of Bristol City and Cheltenham Town I might add.

[SMiLE Brian]

Then let us have 38 pages about cricket matches, Japan upsetting the United States in the Women's World Cup finals, Jeremy Clarkson as Lawrence of Incompetence, and the fact that the San Francisco Giants have a pitcher who shares a name with a certain Beach Boy and has a beard that has become part of pop culture. It's only fair in the context of this thread and its random veering into off-topic territory.

The "other" Brian Wilson's crazy act has nothing on crazy stuff the "real" Brian Wilson has done in the past. Though i'm glad "our" Brian has a somewhat normal life now.

[rogerlancelot]

I got this from a Wikipedia entry about Mike Love and Smile (of course I translated it into Spanish and then back to English via Google):

Love is said to be opposed oblique lyrics Van Dyke Parks' to smile, reserving particular scorn for the song "Cabinessence." During a heated discussion at a recording session, love demands that Parks explain the meaning of the song Parks objected and went, leading to Love officially end his association with Wilson. Although love supposedly had nothing personal against the wind, apparently feared that the letters were too abstract to a record of the Beach Boys.

Love later stated that he suspected the new friends that Brian is associated, and that their opposition to these people was another major source of conflict. Love has suggested that some of those who have been critical of him did so because he had told them that "a walk".

Aversion denied love Pet Sounds, also says he liked the music and smile just liked the letter. However, this is strongly disputed by several participants, including Van Dyke Parks. Respond to the love of the statements in a letter to the editor of UK music magazine Mojo, Parks was highly critical comments of love - which he described as "revisionism" - and he was very clear in citing the hostility of love smile as one of the main factors of Brian decision to abandon the project. In the DVD that accompanies the launch of smiles, 2004, Brian also asserts itself as the antagonism of love was one of the main factors to decide the cancellation of the album:

"The reasons why they did not release Smile: One, Mike did not like ...".

Love letters contributed to his 1966 single "Good Vibrations," though the song also has a previous set of letters written by the principal contributor to Wilson Pet Sounds, Tony Asher, Wilson Smile restored version in 2004.

Writing for The Guardian in December 1999, Hodgkinson summary of the main reasons for the disappearance of the proposed Wilson:

"A combination of factors, including litigation against the record company and the growing animosity between Wilson and the rest of the band, made ​​May 1967 Wilson pulled the plug on the record ... [Mike] Love had already rejected" Good Vibrations "and" avant-garde crap "and opposed to the way Wilson, parks and a highly skilled group of musicians were creating music beyond his understanding ... in March 1967, feeling bad Parks has too much and not having the desire to break the Beach Boys, it was. "

Enemas hot clam chowder!

[rogerlancelot]

Now, here is the same article although this time I translated into Japanese and then back to English and it makes a far more interesting read:

I will ensure a certain disdain for the song, Van Dyke Parks to Smile "has been reported as opposed to the oblique lyrics" Cabinessence. "During the intense debate in the recording session, demanded that I like to explain the meaning of the song and parks. The park is officially ending a partnership that led to his love and Wilson demurred, went away. I suspect There was no personal relationship to the park, was afraid he was too abstract for the recording of the Beach Boys lyrics clearly.

After he was suspicious of new friends and your favorite partner and associate Brian was the opposite of these people he is said to be another major source of contention. Love, that he "take a hike," I had told them to, since it suggests that you do some of the critics of his people.

He also claimed to dislike the lyrics just like the musical Smile, Pet Sounds unpopular love denied. However, this has been discussed by several other participants, including the strong Van Dyke Parks. He said, "revisionism" has been described as - - to meet the claims of love in a letter to the editor of Mojo music magazine in the UK, in the park, and strongly criticized the comments of love, he is in the Bryan one of the key factors, decided to abandon the project was clear hostility love quote smile. The DVD comes with the 2004 Smile release, antagonism of love Brian himself has said is one of the major determinants of the cancellation of the album:

I did not release the Smile "reasons: One, Mike did not like it ...".

Wilson is also a previous song, the main collaborator of Wilson's Pet Sounds in 2004 and restored version of Smile, I have a set of lyrics written by Tony Asher, love, and their 1966 single "Good Vibrations configuration, "provided the lyrics.

Writing for the Guardian in December 1999, Will Hodgkinson is a summary of the main reasons for the collapse of Wilson's project:

"Factors such as increased hostility between Wilson and the rest of the band's lawsuit against record company and removed the plug means and Wilson recorded in May 1967, the combination of ... [Mike] I already "Good Vibrations" was dismissed "avant-garde sh*t" Wilson, who dissented from the way how to create music that was beyond his understanding and skilled group of session musicians park .. as of March 31, .1967, with a very bad feelings for the park to break up the Beach Boys do not have no desire, he went away. "

Piping hot clam chowder enema!

[rogerlancelot]

And finally (I'll stop here) from English to Hebrew and back to English. It sheds a lot of light on the subject (I think):

Cabinessence. "During a heated debate at a meeting recording, Love demanded and Parks explain the meaning of the song, Parks objected and walked out, leading to love officially ending its partnership with Wilson. Despite the love the face was nothing personal against Parks, he was trusting the words were too abstract for Beach Boys record.

Love later stated that he was suspicious of new friends with whom Brian had become intimate, and that opposition to these people was another major source of conflict. Love showed that some of those who were critical of him since he did so because he told them "to take a trip."

Sounds denied love pets hate, even claiming that he loved the music and only smile I loved the words. However, this is strongly disputed by other participants, including Van Dyke Parks. Response to claims of a love letter to the editor of UK music magazine Mojo, and Parks was very critical of his words of love - is described as "revisionism" - and he was unequivocal in citing the hostility of love to smile a major cause of Brian's decision to abandon the project. On DVD that accompanied the release in 2004 Smile, Brian himself also states that the antagonism of love was one of the main factors in the decision to cancel the album:

    "The reasons I did not grin: One, Mike did not like it ...".

Love contributed words on their 1966 single "Good Vibrations," though the song also has a previous set of songs written by the main collaborator of Wilson's Pet Sounds, Tony Asher, Wilson restored version in 2004 that smile.

Writing The Guardian in December 1999, concluded Will Hodgkinson major reasons for failure of Wilson's project:

    "A combination of factors, including litigation against the record company and animosity growing between Wilson and the rest of the band, it means that in May 1967 for Wilson the plug on the record ... [Mike] loved Peter was" fluctuations favors "like" sh*t avant-garde "and objected to the way Wilson , parks, a group of highly skilled musicians were sitting through creating his music beyond comprehension ... to March 1967, I have too much bad feeling parks, unwilling to break the Beach Boys, he went out. "

Piping hot clam chowder enema!


צנרת חם צ'אודר צדפות חוקן!

[Dunderhead]

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[AllIWannaDo]

Just thinkn of narrowing down some details on the SMiLE Sessions Boxset.

do we...
know who is involved in the process and to what extent? like sourcing the tapes, transfering to digital, cleaning up, cataloging
who is involved in the compiling of the found material?
who is mainly engineering/mixing the found sessions for the boxset

if we know this, i reckon we could find out what studio's they'v been in, when, for how long etc

then if we know this, we'll also probly be able to get some info on where their workload is at in the immediate months? like b.wilson freeing up september recently for eg?

so IF we find all this out we should know abit more on whats goin on? even if its just how long theyv been at it and where rather than what tracks they've been working on?


probly find little... but here's hoping

[hypehat]

Am going to refer to him as 'The Strong Van Dyke Parks' from now on. Thanks Roger! 

[rogerlancelot]

Am going to refer to him as 'The Strong Van Dyke Parks' from now on. Thanks Roger! 

Geen zweet van mijn testikels, Hypehat!