New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE'

[Loaf]

I'd be thrilled with ONE CD collating the GoodVibrations tracks plus a few others. I don't need to hear endless takes(though I'll buy it).

However, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Until I hold it in my hot little hands. BRI does have a tendency to not follow through on their plans.

No, no, no. One CD would be such a missed opportunity. Ideally I want every minute of music and session chatter. I want all my bootlegs to be rendered obsolete. Then, and only then, would I be thrilled. Anything less than that would merely be satisfactory.

[The Heartical Don]

I'd be thrilled with ONE CD collating the GoodVibrations tracks plus a few others. I don't need to hear endless takes(though I'll buy it).

However, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Until I hold it in my hot little hands. BRI does have a tendency to not follow through on their plans.

No, no, no. One CD would be such a missed opportunity. Ideally I want every minute of music and session chatter. I want all my bootlegs to be rendered obsolete. Then, and only then, would I be thrilled. Anything less than that would merely be satisfactory.

To each his own. I was just contemplating the possibility of that set, in an absurdly beautiful packaging, with lots of never heard and seen things to go with it, would be pressed in a limited run of 1,000 copies, and of all the original masters and acetates simultaneously being destroyed.

[Myk Luhv]

I'll believe it when it's released.

[Roger Ryan]

I really want to believe this is happening, but my eyes were rolling when Al talked about needing a little more time to finish up the two bonus tracks for the official CD that was supposed to be released years ago. Heck, he's even talking about making changes (during remastering) to a track he has already released via iTunes.

You have to know that BRI/Capitol did not want the SMiLE announcement to come out this way! I just hope the official response is to mute Al's comment as "premature; nothing's settled yet", then the parties involve move forward to compile the best possible SMiLE release imaginable.

As to the history of promising this material before, there was the semi-official announcement in the mid-90s that the PET SOUNDS BOX SET would be followed by a single-disc GOOD VIBRATIONS sessions collection (eventually released five years ago in a very downsized version) and then a two or three disc SMiLE sessions collection.

[Rocker]

You have to know that BRI/Capitol did not want the SMiLE announcement to come out this way! I just hope the official response is to mute Al's comment as "premature; nothing's settled yet", then the parties involve move forward to compile the best possible SMiLE release imaginable.

I agree. Remember when in 2006 Al announced BBs-reunion shows in London and no one ever heard about that ?

[filledeplage]

BTW: will the 2011 Smile be in Duophonic?

Just askin', maaan...

Professor - Would you be so kind as to explain the differences as between "dupohonic" and "binaural" for the "little people?"

There is a "binaural" version of Surfer Girl in the Perfect Harmony collection and I can hear vocals in one ear and orchestration in the other...

Hope this is not a really dumb question...or perhaps one for Socrates or Plato from the days of those acoustically perfect fora? 

Explain it to me as if I were five years old! (svp)   

Thanking you in advance...

[Roger Ryan]

BTW: will the 2011 Smile be in Duophonic?

Just askin', maaan...

Professor - Would you be so kind as to explain the differences as between "dupohonic" and "binaural" for the "little people?"

There is a "binaural" version of Surfer Girl in the Perfect Harmony collection and I can hear vocals in one ear and orchestration in the other...

Hope this is not a really dumb question...or perhaps one for Socrates or Plato from the days of those acoustically perfect fora? 

Explain it to me as if I were five years old! (svp)   

Thanking you in advance...

I don't think that version of "Surfer Girl" is the actual definition of "binaural". "Binaural" is a stereo process in which the separation of the instruments/vocals is done in a way to make it sound like the listener is actually in the room with the musicians. In the case of Pearl Jam's album BINAURAL, this was done by the band performing live in front of a model of a human head with two microphones placed where the ears would be. The stereo separation is not arbitrary when done "binaurally", but the instruments/vocals are placed in the stereo field identical to how the musicans performed in the physical location of the studio. Stephen Desper recorded SUNFLOWER to mimic an actual physical space as well.

"Duophonic", on the other hand, is a crude process which attempts to turn a mono mix into a stereo one but shifting the low frequencies to one channel and the high frequencies to the opposite channel. The result is that the bass may appear to come from the left speaker (or right) while the higher tones such as cymbals or chimes appear to come from the right speaker (or left). It's pretty unpleasant to listen to and the process has not been used in decades.

[Daniel S.]

I'll believe it when it's released.

Me too.

[filledeplage]

BTW: will the 2011 Smile be in Duophonic?

Just askin', maaan...

Professor - Would you be so kind as to explain the differences as between "dupohonic" and "binaural" for the "little people?"

There is a "binaural" version of Surfer Girl in the Perfect Harmony collection and I can hear vocals in one ear and orchestration in the other...

Hope this is not a really dumb question...or perhaps one for Socrates or Plato from the days of those acoustically perfect fora? 

Explain it to me as if I were five years old! (svp)   

Thanking you in advance...

I don't think that version of "Surfer Girl" is the actual definition of "binaural". "Binaural" is a stereo process in which the separation of the instruments/vocals is done in a way to make it sound like the listener is actually in the room with the musicians. In the case of Pearl Jam's album BINAURAL, this was done by the band performing live in front of a model of a human head with two microphones placed where the ears would be. The stereo separation is not arbitrary when done "binaurally", but the instruments/vocals are placed in the stereo field identical to how the musicans performed in the physical location of the studio. Stephen Desper recorded SUNFLOWER to mimic an actual physical space as well.

"Duophonic", on the other hand, is a crude process which attempts to turn a mono mix into a stereo one but shifting the low frequencies to one channel and the high frequencies to the opposite channel. The result is that the bass may appear to come from the left speaker (or right) while the higher tones such as cymbals or chimes appear to come from the right speaker (or left). It's pretty unpleasant to listen to and the process has not been used in decades.

Thanks, great explanation...

Did Stack-o-Tracks follow the binaural route? 

Was it, (as I have always maintained) the forerunner of karaoke?

By this I mean, using the instruments section and allowing the consumer to substitute his or her own vocals?

Thanks again for that "very well explained" response...

[Cam Mott]

There's many a slip 'twixt cup and lip.

[The Heartical Don]

BTW: will the 2011 Smile be in Duophonic?

Just askin', maaan...

Professor - Would you be so kind as to explain the differences as between "dupohonic" and "binaural" for the "little people?"

There is a "binaural" version of Surfer Girl in the Perfect Harmony collection and I can hear vocals in one ear and orchestration in the other...

Hope this is not a really dumb question...or perhaps one for Socrates or Plato from the days of those acoustically perfect fora? 

Explain it to me as if I were five years old! (svp)   

Thanking you in advance...

Hiya fille –
I think Roger Ryan summed it up pretty well. A few remarks: he (Roger) uses the modern connotation of  ‘binaural’, with that artificial head. In German it is called: ‘Kunstkopfstereofonie’. The Germans did a lot of radio plays that way, which were incredibly realistic, fearsomely so.
However, via Google I discovered that there are numerous things that ‘binaural’ applies to, e.g. subjects of a biophysical nature (particular waves in our brains, in our aural perception, and so on). That led me to the idea that indeed it might have been some marketing hype in the proto-stereo days, where vocals were presented left, and all the rest right. Sounds terrible to me.
‘Duophonic’ works basically as Roger wrote, I think. IMHO there’s also an ever so slight delay between the two channels, that’s meant to add to the faux-stereo experience. It produces an ugly phasing effect, at least that is what I think.
Hope I passed the audition.

[astroray]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

[The Heartical Don]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

[bgas]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

Yes, and then if Smile doesn't happen, everyone will funnel their $$ into buying the NEW Edition of Postcards, aka the original TLOS.

[Andrew G. Doe]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

I don't think Alan's laughing a lot right now.

[Loaf]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

I don't think Alan's laughing a lot right now.

He's always looking down in the mouth isn't he?*


* = dentist humour.

[The Heartical Don]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

Yes, and then if Smile doesn't happen, everyone will funnel their $$ into buying the NEW Edition of Postcards, aka the original TLOS.

  very good!

[Paulos]

I see that a lot of people are quite rightly cautious about Al's announcement regarding SMiLE, but given the recent removal of rarities and SMiLE material from youtube and the surfacing of some rarities such as the YASB rehearsal I feel we have cause to be quite optimistic. 

[The Shift]

I see that a lot of people are quite rightly cautious about Al's announcement regarding SMiLE, but given the recent removal of rarities and SMiLE material from youtube and the surfacing of some rarities such as the YASB rehearsal I feel we have cause to be quite optimistic. 

Bear in mind the YASB rehearsal "surfaced" a year ago -  we only just got to know about it. That said, as I said earlier, any 50th anniversary material trawl won't have begun yesterday.

Cautious optimism! Cautious optimism!

[Pretty Funky]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

I don't think Alan's laughing a lot right now.

Uh-oh!

Retraction coming soon AGD?

[Andrew G. Doe]

How long does it take the record company to gear up for something like this "Smile" release?
Are they working on it now?
Ah ,that Al Jardine,always stirring up hope!

Perhaps it was just a joke on Al's part. To brighten up our lives for a month or so.

I don't think Alan's laughing a lot right now.

Uh-oh!

Retraction coming soon AGD?

Nope - I just get the impression he's been a little, ah, precipitate ?

[Pretty Funky]

I'll have to look that one up and get back to ya!

[Winston Wrong]

OMG! This has to be true!!!

I just prey they don't mess this release up..

[kwan_dk]

You have to know that BRI/Capitol did not want the SMiLE announcement to come out this way! I just hope the official response is to mute Al's comment as "premature; nothing's settled yet", then the parties involve move forward to compile the best possible SMiLE release imaginable.

Like everyone else here, I'm really crossing my fingers that this is for real. Although, if his claims are indeed true one really starts to wonder what's up with Al. He seems to spill the beans whenever possible! Somehow, I imagine a lot of past BB-related surprise-parties bombing because of Al yelling "surprise" just before the unsuspecting person opened the door.  

[ESQ Editor]

It will be a very nice release with the deluxe treatment it deserves!