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Re: New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE'
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Quote from: bgas on February 03, 2011, 08:25:57 PM
Quote from: PhilCohen on February 03, 2011, 08:19:28 PM
I hope they'll also offer a vinyl version. Though I'm not a part of the recent vinyl revival fad(though I've never not owned a turntable since I got my first one in 1966), it would be a thrill to own a "Smile" album cover and booklet, as originally intended & designed.
This is going to include the original booklets too? I thought all those got eaten
A handful of the booklets survived, and there are several reproduction editions.
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Quote from: Paulos on February 03, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
I see that a lot of people are quite rightly cautious about Al's announcement regarding SMiLE,
but given the recent removal of rarities and SMiLE material from youtube
and the surfacing of some rarities such as the YASB rehearsal I feel we have cause to be quite optimistic.
I didn't know it was that bad till tonight when I searched "Smile - the beach boys" and only Smiley Smile tracks and a few heroes and villains takes came up. All of the SMiLE songs I saved in my favorites have been removed. Everything has disappeared! I'm very optimistic about this!
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We're prolly getting the Smile that capitol put together in 88....same mix, everything.
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Quote from: punkinhead on February 03, 2011, 08:42:20 PM
We're prolly getting the Smile that capitol put together in 88....same mix, everything.
as long as it's not the one from 67
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I'm still searching for words, honestly never thought a(nother) BB SMiLE material release would happen in my lifetime.
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After the initial jaw-dropping shock....
I guess I fall into the cautiously optimistic crowd here - I certainly hope that these things actually come to fruition, but won't be holding my breath. As others have said, even if there's nothing "new" for us die-hards, just having good quality mixes would be more than worth the price of admission. If we get a few things that we've never heard before, all the better, but at this point it's really hard to believe that everything that's there to find hasn't been found already. Hopefully I'lll be proven wrong on that front!
As for the "reunion" talk, I think Al might be setting people up for disappointment. I think that a reunion, if it happens, would be much more special as a one shot deal, a massive concert event with a killer setlist. A worldwide tour seems a bit much to me.
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I'm trying not to get too excited. But an official Beach Boys Smile? C'mon! That's good news. I hope it is happening and Al isn't just "blowin' smoke".
Someone at Capitol Records must have found that long lost memo.
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Quote from: Rocker on February 03, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
The Beach Boys' version of Smile = Smiley Smile deluxe edition.
I'd be cool with that, too. SS is a vital piece of Smile.
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Quote from: lance on February 03, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: Rocker on February 03, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
The Beach Boys' version of Smile = Smiley Smile deluxe edition.
I'd be cool with that, too. SS is a vital piece of Smile.
Actually, I wouldn't mind that at all. Maybe the Smiley Smile album remastered with five or so outtakes/studio session excerpts, and maybe some songs from Hawaii like Gettin' Hungry. Yeah...that would be cool with me.
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Quote from: Jay on February 03, 2011, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: lance on February 03, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: Rocker on February 03, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
The Beach Boys' version of Smile = Smiley Smile deluxe edition.
I'd be cool with that, too. SS is a vital piece of Smile.
Actually, I wouldn't mind that at all. Maybe the Smiley Smile album remastered with five or so outtakes/studio session excerpts, and maybe some songs from Hawaii like Gettin' Hungry. Yeah...that would be cool with me.
I agree.
The version of Gettin' Hungry in Hawaii is actually much better than the studio cut & it doesn't have as much of those annoying pauses.
Odd to think that this is the only concert that Gettin' Hungry and Hawthorne Blvd. were ever played at.
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Hell, I'd be happy with a dvd of the silent Hawaii footage, as is. No sound at all, cuts and tears in the film, dirt spots...it wouldn't bother me one bit.
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What I find of great interest:
On BW's official website, our AGD posted two messages about the upcoming release of SMiLE, yesterday and today. The inner circle and/or the mods did
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I think that augurs very well.
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Quote from: The Heartical Don on February 04, 2011, 01:05:06 AM
What I find of great interest:
On BW's official website, our AGD posted two messages about the upcoming release of SMiLE, yesterday and today. The inner circle and/or the mods did
not
take these down.
I think that augurs very well.
Our
AGD ?
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Quote from: rab2591 on February 03, 2011, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: juggler on February 03, 2011, 08:11:21 PM
Note Al's statement that "we didn't do any new recording" rather than "we aren't going to do any new recording."
This almost could be interpreted as if Capitol's Smile package is more or less finished.
Now, of course, if it's not supposed to come out until the summer, things could change substantially even if a tentatively finished collection exists at this time. Still, Al seems to have enough certainty about what it is to be speaking about it in the past tense.
Very good points. Also, Summer is nearly right around the corner, so, if it were more of an iffy thing I don't think Al would have mentioned such a close date. Ignorance is bliss so for the time being I'm going to believe Al 100% that SMiLE is being released this summer....until then I will cringe at the opening words of "WonderBill" on Endless Harmony.....
At this point all we can do is speculate, but: is Capitol itself throwing this collection together or
will Brian have any say in structure of the 'album'/set?
Well, I'm guessing that Brian would have had to OK it - Capitol have always deferred to his wishes over
Smile
, even though, legally, they owned the tapes. But, that's just as guess, of course.
One further point: yes, we, meaning the likes of us posting here, probably do have a lot of what will be on any such release. But "we" are a very small group, and plenty other folk will not have heard what we have over the last 35-odd years. Example: the 2008
POB
sold about 13,000 in the UK alone, and I'm willing to bet there aren't 13,000 hardcore DW fans in the
WORLD
. The vast majority of folk will know of
Smile
, and no serious rock historian or fan would pass up on such a release. I want to see one, just one, review that says "jesus, it's in bits and it still makes
Pepper
suck", or something along those lines.
Even if I have to write it myself.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on February 04, 2011, 01:14:32 AM
Quote from: The Heartical Don on February 04, 2011, 01:05:06 AM
What I find of great interest:
On BW's official website, our AGD posted two messages about the upcoming release of SMiLE, yesterday and today. The inner circle and/or the mods did
not
take these down.
I think that augurs very well.
Our
AGD ?
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What if Capitol did the exact same format/formula for the Smile Box set as they did with the Pet Sounds set?
First of all, have a definitive track line-up in stereo, then do sessions in chronological order, but only tracking "
Highlights
" (Whatever that means, I think the whole session would be a highlight) and then the track itself.
Then a disc of stack-o-vocals and alternative takes with some promos stuck in there.
Finally, a disc of the album in mono; just like the PS Boxed Set. Oh, a replication of the Smile booklet.
Would that satisfy your needs?
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Quote from: punkinhead on February 04, 2011, 02:30:56 AM
What if Capitol did the exact same format/formula for the Smile Box set as they did with the Pet Sounds set?
First of all, have a definitive track line-up in stereo, then do sessions in chronological order, but only tracking "
Highlights
" (Whatever that means, I think the whole session would be a highlight) and then the track itself.
Then a disc of stack-o-vocals and alternative takes with some promos stuck in there.
Finally, a disc of the album in mono; just like the PS Boxed Set. Oh, a replication of the Smile booklet.
Would that satisfy your needs?
That would be most acceptable, with the caveat that in this instance a definitive track lineup ain't possible. For yucks, maybe they should use the 12/66 handwritten list.
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Quote from: The Heartical Don on February 04, 2011, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on February 04, 2011, 01:14:32 AM
Quote from: The Heartical Don on February 04, 2011, 01:05:06 AM
What I find of great interest:
On BW's official website, our AGD posted two messages about the upcoming release of SMiLE, yesterday and today. The inner circle and/or the mods did
not
take these down.
I think that augurs very well.
Our
AGD ?
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Every morning I log on to this board praying for such a thread title as this one!! Then I saw the stuff about an Al Jardine release and was ready to chuck my computer through the window ... However, a little patient scrolling payed off: A potential Smile archival release - !!!!!!!
I share the caution expressed elsewhere in the thread, and although it'd be great to daydream of alternate mixes of H&V, the verses to Child, vocals for Look unearthed from Durrie Park's garage, IF this release ever comes to fruition my reckoning is that we already have all the stuff already.
Dont get me wrong: I agree with those that would be over the moon with a nicely packaged, all in one place official release of the stuff we already have (please use the original artwork though!)
At the same time, I'm curious as to the likelihood of unbooted material being sourced for this project. Presumably different mixes of H&V are out there somewhere? Mike must have some of the Smile material still? Durrie Parks' stuff must have been listened to by someone. Wasn't she approached a few years back?
Let's just hope some type of Smile release comes through soon.
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Perhaps we've been put on the wrong foot. Perhaps it'll be 1 CD, titled: Mike Love Presents The Real Smile. With mr. Love's personal selection and favourite sequence.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on February 04, 2011, 02:39:10 AM
That would be most acceptable, with the caveat that in this instance a definitive track lineup ain't possible. For yucks, maybe they should use the 12/66 handwritten list.
I think sequencing is the most interesting question a possible official Smile release raises. It really is problematic.
Don't want to get too far out with this, but I do think one of Smile's most beguiling qualities is its formlessness. It's like Lego for rock snobs!!
As soon as you lock it down to some sort of definitive track listing, something will be lost. I think a great idea, to follow AGD's cue, would be to use the handwritten track list. So 1 disc is devoted to the 'album' like the Pet Sounds box. But here's the rub: The handwritten track list is printed on the sleeve but this time we have the message: load disc for correct playing order, or some such 21st century take on the original instruction. Slap it in your computer and all the fragments are there but you have to arrange them yourself a la Project Smile. The irony would be simultaneously wonderful and horrifying I think. Smile evades us once again!
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on February 04, 2011, 02:39:10 AM
That would be most acceptable, with the caveat that in this instance a definitive track lineup ain't possible. For yucks, maybe they should use the 12/66 handwritten list.
I think sequencing is the most interesting question a possible official Smile release raises. It really is problematic.
Yup, it's up there with cold fusion and vacuum energy.
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Quote from: bgas on February 03, 2011, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: punkinhead on February 03, 2011, 08:42:20 PM
We're prolly getting the Smile that capitol put together in 88....same mix, everything.
as long as it's not the one from 67
So you wouldn't want official BW mixes from 1967? Uh, Ok??
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Quote from: punkinhead on February 03, 2011, 08:42:20 PM
We're prolly getting the Smile that capitol put together in 88....same mix, everything.
as long as it's not the one from 67
So you wouldn't want official BW mixes from 1967? Uh, Ok??
No, he wants the remixes as done by Eugene Landy and Alexandra Morgan.
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Quote from: The Heartical Don on February 04, 2011, 03:02:23 AM
Perhaps we've been put on the wrong foot. Perhaps it'll be 1 CD, titled: Mike Love Presents The Real Smile. With mr. Love's personal selection and favourite sequence.
And let's not forgot to mention new/additional lyrics done in "Summer Of Love" style.
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