BB Interviews do's/don't's

[bgas]

There's still a difference between stealing and adapting.

Where does one draw the line, then? 
Is Looking at Tomorrow, stealing or adapting?
Was My Sweet Lord  theft or adaptation ?

Poor Al is having a rough black Friday ! The board has taken a collective crap on everything he's done for the past 45 years..ouch!

No, Al's cool. He's just not the most original songwriter, but so what? We have a saying here in the Netherlands: "Beter goed gejat dan slecht bedacht", which means something like "Better stolen well than created badly."

These two seem, outright thefts rather than bad creations, whether there was conscious thought, or not. 
I'll pass on defining the others

[shelter]

There's still a difference between stealing and adapting.

I know, hence the smiley.

[punkinhead]

Poor Al is having a rough black Friday ! The board has taken a collective crap on everything he's done for the past 45 years..ouch!

No, Al's cool. He's just not the most original songwriter, but so what? We have a saying here in the Netherlands: "Beter goed gejat dan slecht bedacht", which means something like "Better stolen well than created badly."

Hey, it's alright, this is the most Al's had our attention since he toured with Brian.

[b00ts]

Interviewing Brian

Don't
I think we all figure that there's a certain amount of topics that Brian has talked about for years and is prolly tired of discussing them, this might go for the other guys, but then again, I think Al and Bruce are just happy to get a little spotlight here and there, no matter the topic.


Past Collaborators on Melinda's merda List- From what I know, it's really just Andy Paley and Joe Thomas. But with the hush hush surrounding those topics, I'm not surprised we don't hear anything about what happen. I guess I'd have to use Melinda as a filter before I talk to Brian.  

Shortenin' Bread- Ask and see if even Brian knows how many tunes he's recorded that riff in. He'd prolly just go into a version of Metal Beach right then and there.

Are you really sure that Andy Paley is on the sh*t-list such that he couldn't even be mentioned to Brian? He is a pretty major collaborator of Brian's, and he has played with him live since his return to the stage early last decade. Then again, so has Joe Thomas, even after the infamous lawsuit...

[punkinhead]

Interviewing Brian

Don't
I think we all figure that there's a certain amount of topics that Brian has talked about for years and is prolly tired of discussing them, this might go for the other guys, but then again, I think Al and Bruce are just happy to get a little spotlight here and there, no matter the topic.


Past Collaborators on Melinda's merda List- From what I know, it's really just Andy Paley and Joe Thomas. But with the hush hush surrounding those topics, I'm not surprised we don't hear anything about what happen. I guess I'd have to use Melinda as a filter before I talk to Brian.  

Shortenin' Bread- Ask and see if even Brian knows how many tunes he's recorded that riff in. He'd prolly just go into a version of Metal Beach right then and there.

Are you really sure that Andy Paley is on the merda-list such that he couldn't even be mentioned to Brian? He is a pretty major collaborator of Brian's, and he has played with him live since his return to the stage early last decade. Then again, so has Joe Thomas, even after the infamous lawsuit...

all i'm sayin is there's something weird with the GIOMH album; if I remember correctly, Andy is just credited to playing on Desert Drive, why didn't he play on other songs he'd collabed with?

then again, i could remember the booklet wrong.
i could be way off.

[SloopJohnB]

Are you really sure that Andy Paley is on the merda-list such that he couldn't even be mentioned to Brian? He is a pretty major collaborator of Brian's, and he has played with him live since his return to the stage early last decade. Then again, so has Joe Thomas, even after the infamous lawsuit...

More recently, Brian & Andy also collaborated on a Spongebob Squarepants song, "Doin' The Krabby Patty"

[Andrew G. Doe]

all i'm sayin is there's something weird with the GIOMH album; if I remember correctly, Andy is just credited to playing on Desert Drive, why didn't he play on other songs he'd collabed with?

then again, i could remember the booklet wrong.
i could be way off.

"Desert Drive" was recorded fall 2002 - it's also the only track Darian's on, and the only track with the band on the bvs. Strictly speaking, he should also be credited with playing on "Soul Searchin'" as they used the W/P tracks for that, and also for "Saturday Morning...", so that too.

[punkinhead]

I was thinking about all the work Andy did with Brian, and how those who got into the BB-world late, like myself (around 2000), we take for granted the tracks that are included on those "rarity" packages were actually released! I always forget those tracks were on various compilations; mostly tribute songs and In My Moondreams...were these tracks just intended to be for those particular albums or was there another idea going around.
I could see In My Moondreams being a part of a Brian/Andy album.

[Mr. Cohen]

Al Jardine is the greatest modern adapter of the classic American songbook. How's that?

[punkinhead]

Al Jardine is the greatest modern adapter of the classic American songbook. How's that?

and a great compliment at that.

[hypehat]

Al Jardine is the greatest modern adapter of the classic American songbook. How's that?

Suggesting Brian Wilson cover Sloop John B, ditching his version of Cotton Fields to produce your own EVEN SLICKER version, recording a few limp as hell 50's rock and roll covers and ripping off other peoples tunes at such a sluggish rate that it takes you nigh on a decade to produce an album with a cover of 'Help Me Rhonda' on it does NOT warrant that claim.

[smile-holland]

Al Jardine is the greatest modern adapter of the classic American songbook. How's that?

Suggesting Brian Wilson cover Sloop John B, ditching his version of Cotton Fields to produce your own EVEN SLICKER version, recording a few limp as hell 50's rock and roll covers and ripping off other peoples tunes at such a sluggish rate that it takes you nigh on a decade to produce an album with a cover of 'Help Me Rhonda' on it does NOT warrant that claim.

In Al's defence: despite of being slick(er) produced, Cottonfields was a big hit in most countries (but - granted - not in the U.S.), as was Lady Lynda in the U.K. and Come go With Me in the States. Not making a quality judgement here, just saying apparently quite some people liked it.

[mikeyj]

Cottonfields was a big hit in most countries (but - granted - not in the U.S.)

Yep people seemed to love it over here (in Australia) when Mike & Bruce played it not long ago. In fact as I was walking out I heard people saying "Gee, I wish they would play Cotton Fields again". When they played it it seriously seemed to get the biggest cheer of the whole night. I mean I knew it was a hit over here (I have a feeling it was #1 even?) but I didn't realise people enjoyed it that much.

[smile-holland]

Al Jardine is the greatest modern adapter of the classic American songbook. How's that?

Suggesting Brian Wilson cover Sloop John B, ditching his version of Cotton Fields to produce your own EVEN SLICKER version, recording a few limp as hell 50's rock and roll covers and ripping off other peoples tunes at such a sluggish rate that it takes you nigh on a decade to produce an album with a cover of 'Help Me Rhonda' on it does NOT warrant that claim.

In Al's defence: despite of being slick(er) produced, Cottonfields was a big hit in most countries (but - granted - not in the U.S.), as was Lady Lynda in the U.K. and Come go With Me in the States. Not making a quality judgement here, just saying apparently quite some people liked it.

Cottonfields: I forgot to mention that I don't have a good overview on which version (BW or AJ) was used for the single in each country. I'm pretty sure the BW (20/20) version was used in The Netherlands. But I assume the AJ-version was used in the U.S.

This could be interesting:
Cottonfields was a big hit worldwide, except for the U.S.A.
So IF  the AJ-version of Cottonfields was only released in the U.S., but the rest of the world got the BW-version on 45...
...then I have to rephrase my comment on slicker AJ productions being more successful... 

I think I have to check out my Cottonfields 45's this evening to listen which version in which country was used.

[Andrew G. Doe]

UK 45 release was the 2nd version. That's what was added to the UK Sunflower too. Can you say "sore thumb" ?