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Question: Rate Smiley Smile
5 - 100 (46.9%)
4 - 52 (24.4%)
3 - 36 (16.9%)
2 - 15 (7%)
1 - 5 (2.3%)
0 - 5 (2.3%)
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2005, 06:45:27 PM »

It probably has something to do with the fact that I find the Today! and Pet Sounds albums to be unmatched in Brian's catalogue. That's the type of material that I think suits him best.



I think his creativity knows no limits. He can do it all, from pop to rock to white soul to jazzy things to avant-pop progressivism.
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2005, 06:50:53 PM »

I'm really digging this argument guys, I'm somewhere between the two of you... but it's great to see such opposing views without insults bandied around everywhere...

Keep it up, you fags.
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2005, 06:54:36 PM »

Ain't no argument, my man, just a respectful disagreement among intellectual peers.
You shrimp-barbyin' makeup-wearin' Finn-worshippin' fool!  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2005, 07:02:16 PM »

I respect you guys for lovin' Smiley Smile.  Wink

But when I put it on in the car to maybe give it another chance, it goes something like this.

Heroes and Villains comes on. I listen to about half of that. I skip the track because I've heard it so often.

Vegetables comes on. I love that thumping that Brian's doing on the bass. So simple, yet I love it. I liked the spliced in section of the original Smile version.

Fall Breaks comes on. I listen to that...

Then I start to wonder what the hell is going on...

hehe
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2005, 07:03:17 PM »

I respect you guys for lovin' Smiley Smile.  Wink

But when I put it on in the car to maybe give it another chance, it goes something like this.

Heroes and Villains comes on. I listen to about half of that. I skip the track because I've heard it so often.

Vegetables comes on. I love that thumping that Brian's doing on the bass. So simple, yet I love it. I liked the spliced in section of the original Smile version.

Fall Breaks comes on. I listen to that...

Then I start to wonder what the hell is going on...

hehe

You know, that's exactly my reaction too!
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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2005, 07:49:12 PM »

Those who don't like Smiley Smile don't get it. Same with Love You.


Oh I get it but have you ever seen this article: http://earcandymag.com/humorsmileysmile.htm 

To me that sums up why I don't like it. It's too sarcastic in my opinion.
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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2005, 07:50:49 PM »

One of the best pieces of rock writing I have read. By my man Chris.
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2005, 08:30:42 PM »

I don't know how anybody could be turned onto the Beach Boys with that record.
Worked for me! Spirit of America, a Ronco Greatest Hits package & Surfin Safari were the first 3 I owned. Then came Smiley Smile. I had to dig deeper. I thought the same... what-in-the-hell-is-going-on??? Then it clicked. Then it stuck. Then it deranged. Then it helped derail. Then came the onset of obsession & quest for more treasures. Dig in my good friend Einey, dig in.
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2005, 08:33:22 PM »

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Then it clicked. Then it stuck. Then it deranged. Then it helped derail.

An autobiography, by Rip Taylor.

Great description of a classic.

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« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2005, 04:59:25 AM »

Imo, one of the challenges of being a Brian/Beach Boys fan.  An acquired taste and underappreciated [because of a bad rep as a settle or bunt?] as it exists now, but a sorta stereo  Wink or non-muddy mono mix release would bring out all the deceptively simplistic complexity and give this baby a whole life imo.  Maybe as a bonus on the twofer?
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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2005, 11:21:38 AM »

Perhaps we should bring back foda.
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« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2005, 06:33:05 AM »

Foda has its own inimitable charm. As does merda.
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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2005, 09:10:07 AM »

fodaing... that makes me laugh !!!  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2005, 09:50:52 AM »

i love smiley smile, but i can certainly see why some people don't.  i think it's very understated, and of course far removed from pet sounds (and i'm sure at least a little bit of a disappointment for those expecting SMiLE).  nevertheless, i find it to be a very charming record.  i like the stripped down, unfinished feel of it.  when i first heard it i was fascinated.  this probably sounds stupid, but it really made me appreciate the beach boys vocal harmonies more than ever.  until i heard smiley smile all i'd listened to was pet sounds and friends/20/20 - but on smiley smile, many of the songs are just vocals accompanied by one or two instruments and they basically hold the songs together.  maybe this doesn't make sense, i don't know.  Wink

the only song on smiley smile i can't listen to all the way through is 'wind chimes'.  i actually really like the style of it, but it's just a bit too out of tune/'experimental' for me (not forgetting the evil/scary chord in the middle of it that makes me jump out of my skin every time i hear it).
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« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2005, 05:19:05 AM »

It was the first BB album I heard. I always thought it sounded a little phony, kind of like when they posed as hippies in the seventies. To me they always sounded a little lost, as if they were trying to get into a new style, that they couldn't really fathom, so they made some funny noises to make it "avantgarde". "Fall Breaks" is the best track, but some of it like "With me Tonight" and "Whistle In" sounds very undeveloped, the kind of stuff that might pop into the head of any songwriter, when they sat down at a piano. Three stars.

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« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2005, 05:34:25 AM »

"With me Tonight" and "Whistle In" sounds very undeveloped, the kind of stuff that might pop into the head of any songwriter, when they sat down at a piano.

Damnit, I wish something that good would pop into my head when I sat at my piana. Sad
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« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2005, 06:32:17 AM »

"With me Tonight" and "Whistle In" sounds very undeveloped, the kind of stuff that might pop into the head of any songwriter, when they sat down at a piano.

Damnit, I wish something that good would pop into my head when I sat at my piana. Sad

Okay, what can I say without insulting you, but to me it just sounds tired. "With Me Tonight" sounds like some very basic barbershop and "Whistle In" sounds like an attempt to ape a McCartney-march like "Penny Lane", but without mustering McCartneys melodic inventiveness. People compare "Smiley" to "Love You" and to me one of the differences is that even though "Love You" isn't perfect, there's a feeling of resistance and trying to do something, on "Smiley" it's just like they're going through the motions.

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« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2005, 10:49:03 AM »

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Oh, Soren, how I didn't miss you on this board.
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« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2005, 01:05:07 PM »

Smiley just sounds like they didn't give a sh*t.

That's another reason I don't like 95% of it.

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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2005, 01:06:29 PM »

Smiley just sounds like they didn't give a merda.

That's Keepin' the Summer Alive.
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« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2005, 01:07:18 PM »

Yeah, that one too.
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« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2005, 01:24:10 PM »

Smiley just sounds like they didn't give a merda.

That's another reason I don't like 95% of it.



I think they really did, but about a different thing. The sessions sound very controlled and purposeful to me. And the Silver Platter Service interview following the album indicates that the vibe and sound was a definite artistic decision.
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« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2005, 04:02:01 PM »

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Oh, Soren, how I didn't miss you on this board.

Yeah okay, it did come out harsher than I meant it, I'm sorry, I was in a hurry if that's an excuse.

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« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2005, 04:03:56 PM »



Yeah okay, it did come out harsher than I meant it, I'm sorry, I was in a hurry if that's an excuse.

Søren

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« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2005, 01:50:17 AM »



Yeah okay, it did come out harsher than I meant it, I'm sorry, I was in a hurry if that's an excuse.

Søren

No excuse for nastiness.

No of course not. It just came out nastier than I intended, sorry bout that.

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