Surprising tracks: released and unreleased

[punkinhead]

What tracks are you surprised/shocked that have had a release on either an album or compilation of rarities?

What tracks are you surprised/shocked that haven't been released that 'you've heard in some form'  ?


What tracks are you surprised/shocked (surprised at their inclusion) that have had a release on either an album or compilation of rarities?

Walk On By, surprised that a snippet would be released on a twofer....actually I'm more surprised Our Prayer is on 20/20...honestly, even though it's a smile leftover, it seems like an artsy move.
TM Song and Susie Cincinnati on 15 Big Ones, imho, their production seems outta place.
Passing By- though I love the tune and just hearing Brian's voice gets me off, I can't believe the guys didn't want more of a tune with substance, then again Mike wasn't really at 3/4 of the sessions for Friends.
Sea Cruise- I'm surprised it's the only cover of 15 Big Ones that's found it's way is a given 'rarity' on a compilation...kinda surprised none of the other oldies have been released...though I'm not including alternate mixes of others such as: Rock and Roll Music and Come Go with Me.
Beatles tunes on Party!- I'm kinda surprised 3 Beatles tunes made it to the album, I'm glad they are, they're really good...wasn't Ticket to Ride recorded too? I'm just surprised Smoke Joe's Cafe or Satisfaction weren't included.
Mt. Vernon and Fairway- I'm kinda shocked this did get released. This seems like some myth-like story in which Brian writes and records it, the other guys say: "WHAT?!??!?" and Brian, with his low self-esteem says: "screw it" and doesn't release it....Then it would be obsessed over and over on message boards such as this one; and maybe find release on a rarity comp.
Male Ego- I'm surprised this superior (than half the songs on BB85) track wasn't part of the album: BB85.

EDIT: TODAY! tracks- surprised these haven't found releases like Kiss Me Baby and In the Back of the Mind, dern shame.
I'm fascinated on how the early track 'Little Surfer Girl' found its way on the GV boxed set, being just a snippet and not really sounding like Surfer Girl (if that's what its intentions were).
Shocked that tracks like Surfer Moon, She Knows Me Too Well, Then I Kissed Her, and Pet Sounds (instrumental) found their way onto the GV box set; and to add, surprised there's no tunes in between BB85 and Kokomo; I could see California Dreamin', Make it Big, Somewhere near Japan, Spirit of Rock and Roll (live in Hawaii), Rock and Roll to the Rescue, Lady Liberty, or Still Cruisin' being added in between there. I think Child of Winter and It's a Beautiful Day should have been included for historical sake.
I'm Surprised All Dressed Up for School, Land Ahoy, You're Welcome, and Can't Wait Too Long never ended up on any official album during the 60s.




What tracks are you surprised/shocked (that they weren't included) that haven't been released that 'you've heard in some form'?

I Do, I'm surprised it wasn't released on Shut Down Vol. 2, it would have benefited the album a great deal, as would She rides with Me (that is if the BB had recorded it).
Do you Have Any Regrets?- I have no idea where it'd fit in the Brian Wilson solo catalog, but I'm surprised it hasn't been re-recorded by the man himself, it's a great tune; hell, I could see him and Joe Thomas trying to make a version of it, then again, it was prolly too early for Brian to mess around with Landy/Sweet Insanity material. Same goes for Spirit of Rock and Roll, I can't believe it got released some 15 years later, great tune.
I'm also surprised none of the Paley sessions made their way to the Imagination album (besides Where has Love Been?, but then again, was that during the Paley era or Imagination/Joe Thomas era?)
Loop de Loop- I know this was released on the Endless Harmony soundtrack, but I'm really surprised it didn't get released until about 30 some odd years...it's such a tour de force song. Same goes for California Feeling, I'm really surprised it didn't find its release until 30 some years later.
It's Trying to Say- I'm surprised this song never found an official release, it's simple lyrics and favored vocal by Dennis would have been great on Love You or MIU


Live tracks I'm surprised that haven't released officially (as a full concert or rarity on comp): Imagine (early 80s), Mr. Moto (early 60s), It's OK (any era), I can Hear Music (late 60s or 80s), This Whole World (80s), Breakaway, You Need a Mess of Help, any Love You tracks, Back Home (if any good recordings exist), Friends, Wild Honey (Blondie C. lead vocal), Your Song (Bruce lead), BEACHAGO material, Feel Flows, Getcha Back, Some of Your Love, I Write the Songs, Country Air, Forever (Dennis vocals), Still Cruisin', Good Timin', River Song.

EDIT: I'm also surprised a clean live or studio cut of I've got a Friend hasn't been released.
I'm surprised Stevie wasn't on any official release.
I'm really surprised more of Dennis' Bambu material did get released on later rarity releases: ie: It's Not Too Late (especially with Carl's vocals), Holy Man (instrumental), Under the Moonlight Companion, and Love Remember Me.
I'm surprised the tune/melody of the following songs have not popped up in any of Brian's released solo material: Marilyn Rovell, Stevie, My Mary Anne, Life is For the Living, I'm Begging You Please, Black Widow, Mona Kani, That Special Feeling, The Boogies Back In Town, Must Be A Miracle, Christmas Time, Everyone wants to Live, Lines, Heavenly Bodies, Chain Reaction of Love, Looking Down the Coast, Concert Tonight (full tune), Winter Symphony, Heavenly Lovers, Country Feelin, We Gotta Groove, I'm Broke, It's Trying to Say, Out in the Country, and I Sleep Alone.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I'm surprised Everybody Wants to Live didn't make it on Love You, but Love is a Woman did (or Good Time was included, considering how it had "classic" Brian.)

Even more surprised that the 1974 material hasn't leaked

[Jay]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out. Actually, I'm REALLY shocked that the "cocaine tapes" surfaced(although quite glad to hear it  ). You'd think that it would be something that the "powers that be" would keep a tight lid on. That being said, I don't think we, the fans, would have the recordings if Carl were still living.

[punkinhead]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out. Actually, I'm REALLY shocked that the "cocaine tapes" surfaced(although quite glad to hear it  ). You'd think that it would be something that the "powers that be" would keep a tight lid on. That being said, I don't think we, the fans, would have the recordings if Carl were still living.

I agree with the items you said to be surfaced...but why do you think that of Carl still being alive? You think he would have done more to protect those songs?

[punkinhead]

I'm surprised Everybody Wants to Live didn't make it on Love You, but Love is a Woman did (or Good Time was included, considering how it had "classic" Brian.)

Even more surprised that the 1974 material hasn't leaked

AGREED

[Jay]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out. Actually, I'm REALLY shocked that the "cocaine tapes" surfaced(although quite glad to hear it  ). You'd think that it would be something that the "powers that be" would keep a tight lid on. That being said, I don't think we, the fans, would have the recordings if Carl were still living.

I agree with the items you said to be surfaced...but why do you think that of Carl still being alive? You think he would have done more to protect those songs?

We're talking about the guy who vetoed a song off the GV boxset because he blew one single word(Soulfull Old Man Sunshine). It just seems to me that Carl was very concious of what did and didn't get heard by the public.

[punkinhead]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out. Actually, I'm REALLY shocked that the "cocaine tapes" surfaced(although quite glad to hear it  ). You'd think that it would be something that the "powers that be" would keep a tight lid on. That being said, I don't think we, the fans, would have the recordings if Carl were still living.

I agree with the items you said to be surfaced...but why do you think that of Carl still being alive? You think he would have done more to protect those songs?

We're talking about the guy who vetoed a song off the GV boxset because he blew one single word(Soulfull Old Man Sunshine). It just seems to me that Carl was very concious of what did and didn't get heard by the public.

Good Call!

[Jay]

I also think that Carl would tend to be overly protective of his brother. Which raises an interesting question. What if Carl ended up being the "wifeandmanagers" in Brian's life? Would he escape the blame, only because he was Carl Wilson?

[punkinhead]

I also think that Carl would tend to be overly protective of his brother. Which raises an interesting question. What if Carl ended up being the "wifeandmanagers" in Brian's life? Would he escape the blame, only because he was Carl Wilson?

Of course he would, because he'd make better decisions.

[Nicko]

and to add, surprised there's no tunes in between BB85 and Kokomo; I could see California Dreamin', Make it Big, Somewhere near Japan, Spirit of Rock and Roll (live in Hawaii), Rock and Roll to the Rescue, Lady Liberty, or Still Cruisin' being added in between there. I think Child of Winter and It's a Beautiful Day should have been included for historical sake.

Wasn't this partly due to the planned release of a rarities album that never appeared?

And was there also a problem with the rights to certain songs? For example, in the booklet it stated that Where I Belong is clearly the standout song from BB85 but it still wasn't included.

[punkinhead]

and to add, surprised there's no tunes in between BB85 and Kokomo; I could see California Dreamin', Make it Big, Somewhere near Japan, Spirit of Rock and Roll (live in Hawaii), Rock and Roll to the Rescue, Lady Liberty, or Still Cruisin' being added in between there. I think Child of Winter and It's a Beautiful Day should have been included for historical sake.

Wasn't this partly due to the planned release of a rarities album that never appeared?

And was there also a problem with the rights to certain songs? For example, in the booklet it stated that Where I Belong is clearly the standout song from BB85 but it still wasn't included.

NICE, I haven't read that booklet in years...Where I Belong is so underrated

[STE]

I'm surprised that you guys have the patience to read all this text..   

[Ganz Allein]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out. Actually, I'm REALLY shocked that the "cocaine tapes" surfaced(although quite glad to hear it  ). You'd think that it would be something that the "powers that be" would keep a tight lid on. That being said, I don't think we, the fans, would have the recordings if Carl were still living.

I agree with the items you said to be surfaced...but why do you think that of Carl still being alive? You think he would have done more to protect those songs?

We're talking about the guy who vetoed a song off the GV boxset because he blew one single word(Soulfull Old Man Sunshine). It just seems to me that Carl was very concious of what did and didn't get heard by the public.

Carl couldn't have had veto power or any control over bootlegs like the Cocaine Tapes or Drip Drop - or anything else that wasn't being officially released.

I'm surprised that Sea Cruise wasn't released on 15BO. It would've been a much better fit than Everyone's In Love With You, which sounds to me like it doesn't belong there at all.

[Jason]

It should be noted that the so-called "cocaine tapes" went around a good eight or nine years before they were "officially" booted. It's a cyclic process. The stuff that came out wholesale in the 90s on bootleg was going around via traders as early as 1977.

[Menace Wilson]

I'm surprised Everybody Wants to Live didn't make it on Love You, but Love is a Woman did (or Good Time was included, considering how it had "classic" Brian.)

That.

Also, how many times did the BBs try to put out "Hey Little Tomboy" before it finally came out on MIU?  I'm surprised at how confident they apparently felt about that tune.

[Mikie]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out.

"Drip Drop".  You mean "Teardrops On My Bed"?  What makes you think that one leaked out?  It isn't on any boot (that I know of).

[Andrew G. Doe]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out.

"Drip Drop".  You mean "Teardrops On My Bed"?  What makes you think that one leaked out?  It isn't on any boot (that I know of).

True... but there's a kind of limbo between the securely locked vaults, and boots. Let's say it's in 'limited circulation'. 

[grillo]

I'm surprised that Drip Drop leaked out.

"Drip Drop".  You mean "Teardrops On My Bed"?  What makes you think that one leaked out?  It isn't on any boot (that I know of).

True... but there's a kind of limbo between the securely locked vaults, and boots. Let's say it's in 'limited circulation'. 

I'm fairly certain everyone on this board can easily get this tune. One day it just showed up...

[Mikie]

 

[hypehat]

It should be noted that the so-called "cocaine tapes" went around a good eight or nine years before they were "officially" booted. It's a cyclic process. The stuff that came out wholesale in the 90s on bootleg was going around via traders as early as 1977.

This process annoys me. Like it was only a mistake we proles got 'Get The Boot' because someone managed to leak it...... it doesn't appeal to my inner communist. Share the wealth! 

[Andrew G. Doe]

It should be noted that the so-called "cocaine tapes" went around a good eight or nine years before they were "officially" booted. It's a cyclic process. The stuff that came out wholesale in the 90s on bootleg was going around via traders as early as 1977.

This process annoys me. Like it was only a mistake we proles got 'Get The Boot' because someone managed to leak it......

That wasn't leaked - those tracks were stolen from someone's (legitimate) possession while they was hosting an open house. Caused the individual in question no end of trouble until they could prove they weren't directly responsible. Utterly despicable behavior on all levels.

[punkinhead]

I'm surprised that you guys have the patience to read all this text..   

what text?
my original post?
or the GV Boxed set liner notes?

[Mr. Cohen]

Mt. Vernon and Fairway- I'm kinda shocked this did get released. This seems like some myth-like story in which Brian writes and records it, the other guys say: "WHAT?!??!?" and Brian, with his low self-esteem says: "screw it" and doesn't release it....Then it would be obsessed over and over on message boards such as this one; and maybe find release on a rarity comp.

It's funny you say that because that's what almost happened. Brian, after a sojourn with hard cider and Randy Newman's Sail Away, returned with the music for "Mt. Vernon and Fairway." He played the odd melodies to Jack Rieley, who added lyrics. Brian knew he had something special on his hands. The world had to hear this.

One day, the rest of the Beach Boys, sans Dennis, walked in the studio to find Brian hard at work on the fairytale, his Moog keyboard by his side, all of which was a bit of shock. Brian wasn't fond of the studio by this time and rarely visited. Brian ecstatically played the fairytale for the group, who were secretly hoping they were about to hear a finished version of SMiLE.

"It was one of the most creative things we had done up to that point," Brian reflected.

The group's initial reaction was a bit different.

"What the foder is this?" someone pipes up, only to be silenced by some rude glances from Carl and Al.

Brian's eyes glaze over. They want me to write songs and be creative but they don't, he thinks to himself.  

"It's a fairytale about the Pied Piper, the Prince's only friend of night, and a magical transistor radio that only the Prince can hear," Brian says.

No one knows how to respond. Finally, Mike breaks the silence.

"Yeah, Brian. That's... interesting. Um, we'll have to work on that some more later, sweeten it up a bit, maybe release it as part of a little promo EP or something," Mike says. "Y'know me and Al are working on a really cool song, kinda like 'California Girls' meets 'Cottonfields'. Wanna hear it? It could really use that beautiful high voice you do."

Brian can't believe it. They hate it, he thinks. They trashed it. They think I'm washed up, a lunatic. They'd rather do their own songs. foder it, why did I even waste my time?
 
"Um... no thanks, guys. I just remembered that I have some stuff to do. I'll catch you guys later," Brian says.

He darts out of the room and gets in his rental car.

"Wait, Brian!" someone shouts.

Carl and Al give chase, but Brian's car is already pulling out into the road. As Brian drives home, he lights up a joint and reflects on what his life has become. He's about to go home, but he sees a bar and thinks better of it. I'll have a couple drinks first to cool off, he reasons to himself.

After a small argument, the rest of the group get back to working on "California Saga". It almost sounds like Brian could've wrote parts of it.

"You know Brian, that's just how he is. Too sensitive," Mike says at one point during the session.

A few weeks later, Carl presents a nearly finished version of "Mt. Vernon and Fairway" to Brian as a gift, to raise his spirits. Carl had used same tapes Brian made with Jack to work on it. Since the incident with the band, Brian had been spending most of his time drinking and smoking Dutch hash. When Carl visits Brian to tell him about  "Mt. Vernon and Fairway", he finds Brian on the couch, stoned out of his mind. Brian's listening to Sail Away.

"Hey, man. You need to come back to the studio soon. I need you. I got some tapes from Jack and I've been working on the fairytale. I dig it, man, but I can't finish it without you," Carl says.

"Oh yeah, man. I dig that song, too, man. It's groovy. So far out. Hey, you wanna smoke some hash?"

[punkinhead]

Mt. Vernon and Fairway- I'm kinda shocked this did get released. This seems like some myth-like story in which Brian writes and records it, the other guys say: "WHAT?!??!?" and Brian, with his low self-esteem says: "screw it" and doesn't release it....Then it would be obsessed over and over on message boards such as this one; and maybe find release on a rarity comp.

It's funny you say that because that's what almost happened. Brian, after a sojourn with hard cider and Randy Newman's Sail Away, returned with the music for "Mt. Vernon and Fairway." He played the odd melodies to Jack Rieley, who added lyrics. Brian knew he had something special on his hands. The world had to hear this.

One day, the rest of the Beach Boys, sans Dennis, walked in the studio to find Brian hard at work on the fairytale, his Moog keyboard by his side, all of which was a bit of shock. Brian wasn't fond of the studio by this time and rarely visited. Brian ecstatically played the fairytale for the group, who were secretly hoping they were about to hear a finished version of SMiLE.

"It was one of the most creative things we had done up to that point," Brian reflected.

The group's initial reaction was a bit different.

"What the foder is this?" someone pipes up, only to be silenced by some rude glances from Carl and Al.

Brian's eyes glaze over. They want me to write songs and be creative but they don't, he thinks to himself.  

"It's a fairytale about the Pied Piper, the Prince's only friend of night, and a magical transistor radio that only the Prince can hear," Brian says.

No one knows how to respond. Finally, Mike breaks the silence.

"Yeah, Brian. That's... interesting. Um, we'll have to work on that some more later, sweeten it up a bit, maybe release it as part of a little promo EP or something," Mike says. "Y'know me and Al are working on a really cool song, kinda like 'California Girls' meets 'Cottonfields'. Wanna hear it? It could really use that beautiful high voice you do."

Brian can't believe it. They hate it, he thinks. They trashed it. They think I'm washed up, a lunatic. They'd rather do their own songs. foder it, why did I even waste my time?
 
"Um... no thanks, guys. I just remembered that I have some stuff to do. I'll catch you guys later," Brian says.

He darts out of the room and gets in his rental car.

"Wait, Brian!" someone shouts.

Carl and Al give chase, but Brian's car is already pulling out into the road. As Brian drives home, he lights up a joint and reflects on what his life has become. He's about to go home, but he sees a bar and thinks better of it. I'll have a couple drinks first to cool off, he reasons to himself.

After a small argument, the rest of the group get back to working on "California Saga". It almost sounds like Brian could've wrote parts of it.

"You know Brian, that's just how he is. Too sensitive," Mike says at one point during the session.

A few weeks later, Carl presents a nearly finished version of "Mt. Vernon and Fairway" to Brian as a gift, to raise his spirits. Carl had used same tapes Brian made with Jack to work on it. Since the incident with the band, Brian had been spending most of his time drinking and smoking Dutch hash. When Carl visits Brian to tell him about  "Mt. Vernon and Fairway", he finds Brian on the couch, stoned out of his mind. Brian's listening to Sail Away.

"Hey, man. You need to come back to the studio soon. I need you. I got some tapes from Jack and I've been working on the fairytale. I dig it, man, but I can't finish it without you," Carl says.

"Oh yeah, man. I dig that song, too, man. It's groovy. So far out. Hey, you wanna smoke some hash?"

While we're on the subject, I kinda can't believe the Mt. Vernon various instrumental cuts were included on the GV box set...It seems like something we'd get on a Hawthorne CA disc or a re-release of Holland. It's possibly one of the best, previously unreleased, non-Smile, track included on that box set.

[Andrew G. Doe]

While we're on the subject, I kinda can't believe the Mt. Vernon various instrumental cuts were included on the GV box set...It seems like something we'd get on a Hawthorne CA disc or a re-release of Holland. It's possibly one of the best, previously unreleased, non-Smile, track included on that box set.

Two words. David. Leaf.