How Much Did Brian...

[Andrew G. Doe]

I just feel like you're cut from the same cloth of people who go around constantly calling Brian "tormented", "insane", and etc. You know, the sort of people who don't like Love You or listen to Mt. Vernon and Fairway and think that they know what he SHOULD be doing. And then you have the audacity to wonder why Brian hates interviewers and is scared of his fans. merda, he has every right to be.

With this little outburst, you've made it abundantly evident that you've never read a word I've written about Brian, Love You or, indeed, The Beach Boys in toto over the last 30+ years (or indeed, in this forum either). Therefore your opinion and conclusions on these matters is necessarily worthless. Call me names, denigrate my research and writings if you feel you have to but at least have the decency to obtain a basic grasp of the subject in hand.

In the words of the French Soldier, "I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."

Yes, I think that covers it.  

As for the original question/assertion re: LSD, there is no point in replying as if I say "yes" you won't believe me, and if I say "no", you'll crow "told ya so": as for "Or am I to really believe that you've read countless books on the subject of acid and have gotten firsthand accounts on the effects from acid users, after which you then came to your conclusions, without bias?", no, not countless books, but a goodly sampling, and yes, I've gotten first hand accounts and experiences on which I've based my conclusion. It's called "research". There's a reason LSD is illegal, you know.

[rab2591]

You say I 'obviously' haven't, and who am I to question your omniscience in matters regarding my private life ?

Because it's obvious you haven't taken acid. It don't need to be meteorologist to tell if the sun outside my window is shining.

You're being a very intellectually dishonest person right now. I personally have never taken acid. I have taken psychedelic drugs, but not acid. Consequently, you don't see me  going around claiming that acid rewires people's brains, because how the foder could I know that? Because I had a certain viewpoint indoctrinated in me by the establishment and society from birth? Open your mind. Or am I to really believe that you've read countless books on the subject of acid and have gotten firsthand accounts on the effects from acid users, after which you then came to your conclusions, without bias? You can claim that I can't know if you did, but who are you fooling? Or am I to believe that you may have taken acid, in light of your recent comments? Feel free to prove me wrong. You want to go around pointing the finger when people get BB minutia wrong, but you can't handle it when the shoe is on the other foot.
 
I just feel like you're cut from the same cloth of people who go around constantly calling Brian "tormented", "insane", and etc. You know, the sort of people who don't like Love You or listen to Mt. Vernon and Fairway and think that they know what he SHOULD be doing. And then you have the audacity to wonder why Brian hates interviewers and is scared of his fans. merda, he has every right to be.

You've got to be kidding me. I thought your initial post to AGD was a joke. You don't need to have taken the drug to know it screws with ones brain: take your own advice for pities sake: "I don't need to be meteorologist to tell if the sun outside my window is shining."

Society told me LSD was bad for a reason. As AGD points out, it's illegal for a reason. I've seen firsthand (and I'm fairly certain 80% others on this board (possibly, as well as yourself) have) what LSD can do to someone's mind: ie anxiety disorders, panic attacks, yadayada...

[Runaways]

why does everyone say merda here.

EDIT:
actually wait there's a thread for this!!

located: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,8214.msg155818.html#msg155818

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I just feel like you're cut from the same cloth of people who go around constantly calling Brian "tormented", "insane", and etc. You know, the sort of people who don't like Love You or listen to Mt. Vernon and Fairway and think that they know what he SHOULD be doing. And then you have the audacity to wonder why Brian hates interviewers and is scared of his fans. merda, he has every right to be.

With this little outburst, you've made it abundantly evident that you've never read a word I've written about Brian, Love You or, indeed, The Beach Boys in toto over the last 30+ years (or indeed, in this forum either). Therefore your opinion and conclusions on these matters is necessarily worthless. Call me names, denigrate my research and writings if you feel you have to but at least have the decency to obtain a basic grasp of the subject in hand.

In the words of the French Soldier, "I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."

Yes, I think that covers it.  

As for the original question/assertion re: LSD, there is no point in replying as if I say "yes" you won't believe me, and if I say "no", you'll crow "told ya so": as for "Or am I to really believe that you've read countless books on the subject of acid and have gotten firsthand accounts on the effects from acid users, after which you then came to your conclusions, without bias?", no, not countless books, but a goodly sampling, and yes, I've gotten first hand accounts and experiences on which I've based my conclusion. It's called "research". There's a reason LSD is illegal, you know.

And also never mind the fact that it's *none* of our business if you've ever done acid or not. That's not being evasive, that' s just expecting others to mind their own business.

Society told me LSD was bad for a reason. As AGD points out, it's illegal for a reason.

That, however, is not a good argument. Just it being legal or illegal doesn't affect whether or not it's "bad" for you. Alcohol destroys far more lives than weed ever possibly could, yet the former is legal and the latter isn't. Then again, considering race had a huge part to play in it being illegal in the first place...anyway, that's a rant for a different time.

Runaways, it's the word filter.

[cutterschoice]

Society told me LSD was bad for a reason. As AGD points out, it's illegal for a reason.

That, however, is not a good argument. Just it being legal or illegal doesn't affect whether or not it's "bad" for you. Alcohol destroys far more lives than weed ever possibly could, yet the former is legal and the latter isn't. Then again, considering race had a huge part to play in it being illegal in the first place...anyway, that's a rant for a different time.

Runaways, it's the word filter.

That's true.


Hallucinogenics, including shrooms, lsd and even cannabis can exacerbate dormant mental conditions. Having said that, if you seriously abuse any drug/drink long enough and you have no genetic predisposition to mental illness, it can still mess you up. However in that instance withdrawing from use completely will eventually help you to recover.

A lot of drug casualties are down to irresponsible use, randomly mixing substances and taking no care in preparing the correct set and setting.
Look at Amsterdam, the only reason they made shrooms illegal was because the tourists would go out there, drink all day, smoke in the cafes, then take some shrooms, without even knowing what they were in for, completely freak out and then end up in the hospital pumped full of valium

[MBE]

The Beach Boys did more to keep me away from drugs then Nancy Regan . Actually they did scare the hell out of me which is why I've never tried anything except pot once.

[Mike's Beard]

You say I 'obviously' haven't, and who am I to question your omniscience in matters regarding my private life ?

I just feel like you're cut from the same cloth of people who go around constantly calling Brian "tormented", "insane", and etc. You know, the sort of people who don't like Love You or listen to Mt. Vernon and Fairway and think that they know what he SHOULD be doing. And then you have the audacity to wonder why Brian hates interviewers and is scared of his fans. merda, he has every right to be.

Oh crap, I don't particularly like Love You and would be ecstatic if Brian made more Mt.Vernon and Fairway type music. Does that make me a rotten Beach Boys fan?

[Andrew G. Doe]

You say I 'obviously' haven't, and who am I to question your omniscience in matters regarding my private life ?

I just feel like you're cut from the same cloth of people who go around constantly calling Brian "tormented", "insane", and etc. You know, the sort of people who don't like Love You or listen to Mt. Vernon and Fairway and think that they know what he SHOULD be doing. And then you have the audacity to wonder why Brian hates interviewers and is scared of his fans. merda, he has every right to be.

Oh crap, I don't particularly like Love You and would be ecstatic if Brian made more Mt.Vernon and Fairway type music. Does that make me a rotten Beach Boys fan?

Apparently so, according to the Olympian Dictat of Dada.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Yeah, to me one of the things that makes the music so wonderful is that there really is something for everyone, and also is so diverse that a large majority of people will not like the entire output. I mean, really, the only other group that had such distinct eras is Fleetwood Mac.

[Ron]

Andrew, I still think you're cool regardless of whether or not you're an acid-tripping hippy.  Rock on!

[MBE]

Yeah, to me one of the things that makes the music so wonderful is that there really is something for everyone, and also is so diverse that a large majority of people will not like the entire output. I mean, really, the only other group that had such distinct eras is Fleetwood Mac.

Very well said. My Fleetwood Mac is incidentally the 67-70 one. I like Kiln House from late 1970 ,too but that's still most of the originals.

[Mike's Beard]

I'm gonna be predictable and say "Rumors" does it for me. Also as far as this may stray from the original thread topic I'd just like to state that in the 70's Stevie Nicks was quite possibly the most beautiful woman on the planet and it's little wonder that Brian wrote a song about how much he wanted to shag her.

[Myk Luhv]

Has she ever heard the song? If so, what did she think of it?

[Ganz Allein]

Has she ever heard the song? If so, what did she think of it?

They should've finished and released it. I think it's a great song and a lot more exciting than most of stuff they released at the time.

[Runaways]

which song is this again

[Myk Luhv]

This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOB4dPwTtIc