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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2010, 10:19:45 AM »

A couple others.

Clang (1975-76) and Walkin' (1968-70) were reused in Morning Beat on TLOS.
Wondering What You're Up To Now (1985) was reused in California Role on TLOS.
Sweetie (1981) was reused in Love Ya on Sweet Insanity, and then reused again as Sweetie in 1996 during sessions for The Wilsons.
Black Widow (1983) was redone in 1986 with Gary Usher under the same title and then rewritten with Landy as Let's Do It Again in 1987 during the sessions for the '88 album.
In The Night Time (1983) was rewritten slightly as The First Time on Live at the Roxy.
"Take Me Home"/"Yeahhh" (1982) was reused (loosely) in Rio Grande in the section after the "Indian chant".
"I Said A Prayer" (1982) was reused for This Isn't Love in 1997 as an instrumental, and then again on Live at the Roxy with Tony Asher lyrics.
Up In The Sky (1983) became There's So Many with a lyrical revision.
They're Marching Along (1976) became Little Children in 1983, which was slightly revised for the '88 album.

have you heard that specific recording?
or do you just know that through research on the board?
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2010, 10:33:23 AM »

My source is Mr. Andrew G. Doe. You all know him as AGD. I know him as one cool yet cranky dude nearing the 6000 mark. Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 10:38:22 AM »

My source is Mr. Andrew G. Doe. You all know him as AGD. I know him as one cool yet cranky dude nearing the 6000 mark. Smiley

that's what i figured.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2011, 03:51:09 AM »

what songs from the aborted smile made it on later albums?
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2011, 07:11:46 AM »

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I'm pretty sure the first half of the verse melody of Deirdre was a take-off of something, but I can't place it and it's doing my heid in...
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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2011, 07:21:13 AM »

The last few bars of "A Thing Or Two" are not unlike a rather large number of bars of "Do It Again"...
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2011, 08:56:43 AM »

Be True To Your Shool - I Get Around

The chorus to I Get Around is a rewrite of the Be True To Your School's chorus.

Additionally, the rhythm track arrangement of the verse to I Get Around was copped from Sugar Shack.

Now that I think of it, maybe the BG vocal part of  Be True To Your School's chorus, "Ra ra ra ra..." came from Surfin' USA's BG vocal part, "Inside outside USA...".

The chorus to Dance Dance Dance is closely related to these songs, as well.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2011, 08:58:49 AM »

now you're just talking rhythm patterns.
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2011, 09:26:07 AM »

now you're just talking rhythm patterns.

Not only that, I clearly see and hear compositional, harmonic, structural and , yes, rhythmic similarites.
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2011, 10:11:42 AM »

here's a somewhat sloppy mash-up of Trombone Dixie/Had To Phone Ya

and here's Tune X/Little Pad


the verse of "Deirdre" was supposedly based on "We're Together Again"
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2011, 10:30:59 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2011, 11:45:36 AM »

It'd be interesting to know what was intentional, what wasn't, and what's fans just making stuff up.
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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2011, 04:13:06 PM »

Surprised no one has mentioned the little snippet of melody from God Only Knows in the Smiley version of Wonderful. That absolutely makes that version of the song come together.
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« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2011, 04:32:24 PM »

Surprised no one has mentioned the little snippet of melody from God Only Knows in the Smiley version of Wonderful. That absolutely makes that version of the song come together.
what songs from the aborted smile made it on later albums?
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2011, 04:34:43 PM »

Surprised no one has mentioned the little snippet of melody from God Only Knows in the Smiley version of Wonderful. That absolutely makes that version of the song come together.

Are you referring to those turnaournd/pick up bass notes at the end of the each verse?  Oh, I was talking about the Smile Wonderful. Oops...

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« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2011, 09:33:21 PM »

Surprised no one has mentioned the little snippet of melody from God Only Knows in the Smiley version of Wonderful. That absolutely makes that version of the song come together.

Are you referring to those turnaournd/pick up bass notes at the end of the each verse?  Oh, I was talking about the Smile Wonderful. Oops...




Smiley Smile version of Wonderful. Carl sings it: "na na-na na na na na" is the same melodic line as "What good would living do me?" from GOK.
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2011, 11:52:56 AM »

that part always reminds me of "Pomp and Circumstance"
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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2011, 05:02:35 AM »

that part always reminds me of "Pomp and Circumstance"

You mean the bit from P&C #1 that became "Land of Hope and Glory"?! The first five notes are the same, now you mention it. :=)
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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2011, 05:11:03 AM »

It'd be interesting to know what was intentional, what wasn't, and what's fans just making stuff up.
what songs from the aborted smile made it on later albums?
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« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2011, 07:48:26 AM »

It'd be interesting to know what was intentional, what wasn't, and what's fans just making stuff up.
what songs from the aborted smile made it on later albums?

You can look up the songs on Smiley Smile, but after that it goes something like this:

Mama Says on Wild Honey is the chorus of Vega-Tables
Do It Again on 20/20 uses Workshop
Our Prayer and Cabinessence on 20/20
Cool, Cool Water on Sunflower
Surf's Up on Surf's Up
Leaving This Town on Holland uses a piano bit from CITFOTM
Goin' On from Keeping the Summer Alive uses the descending/ascending vocal bit from the end of Heroes and Villains to wonderful effect.

I think that is it.
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« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2011, 10:52:37 AM »

Leaving This Town on Holland uses a piano bit from CITFOTM


Naw.
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« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2011, 11:34:37 AM »

Dennis' 'Sound of Free' and 'River Song' have bits common to each.
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2011, 02:36:25 PM »

Leaving This Town on Holland uses a piano bit from CITFOTM


Naw.

Yar. Listen to it.
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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2011, 03:05:04 PM »

It'd be interesting to know what was intentional, what wasn't, and what's fans just making stuff up.
what songs from the aborted smile made it on later albums?

You can look up the songs on Smiley Smile, but after that it goes something like this:

Mama Says on Wild Honey is the chorus of Vega-Tables
Do It Again on 20/20 uses Workshop
Our Prayer and Cabinessence on 20/20
Cool, Cool Water on Sunflower
Surf's Up on Surf's Up
Leaving This Town on Holland uses a piano bit from CITFOTM
Goin' On from Keeping the Summer Alive uses the descending/ascending vocal bit from the end of Heroes and Villains to wonderful effect.

I think that is it.

thanks so much Smiley i'm checking all of em out right now and it's crazy how u hear the similarities yet hearing the differences at the same time.
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« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2011, 03:27:57 PM »

Leaving This Town on Holland uses a piano bit from CITFOTM


Naw.

Yar. Listen to it.

It's only a passing similarity (i.e. it's far enough removed from being the "exact" piano part) and is total coincidence, as opposed to, say, "Little Bird" actually taking a proper part of "Child".
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