"The Like In I Love You" Is Streaming

[jammer730]

Oh, and I love how AGD never seeks outsider opinion in audio related quandaries to back up his claims, as I did.

So you know for a fact I didn't, do you ?  Gotta admire the arrogance, if not the lack of common sense. I can state with complete confidence, no autotune.

As for "always" doubling his leads... I take it you've not listened to TLOS recently. Or at all, actually. The album is awash with single tracked vocals from Brian.

What other explanation can you give for Brian sounding like an old lady when he sings "I love you"?

It's called "falsetto". Brian's been known to use it once or twice over the last 49 years.

Ah, how could I be so gullible ? I'm ignoring my own advice - "never feed the trolls". Duh !

I'm not a troll. It's just that every time I give any input that deviates from the norm, I have to defend myself. Wouldn't you do the same?

Andrew, why didn't you mention the outsider opinion you gathered in your post, did I miss it?

Really, it wouldn't seem so troll like if you wouldn't respond on such a personal level.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Oh, and I love how AGD never seeks outsider opinion in audio related quandaries to back up his claims, as I did.

So you know for a fact I didn't, do you ?  Gotta admire the arrogance, if not the lack of common sense. I can state with complete confidence, no autotune.

As for "always" doubling his leads... I take it you've not listened to TLOS recently. Or at all, actually. The album is awash with single tracked vocals from Brian.

What other explanation can you give for Brian sounding like an old lady when he sings "I love you"?

It's called "falsetto". Brian's been known to use it once or twice over the last 49 years.

Ah, how could I be so gullible ? I'm ignoring my own advice - "never feed the trolls". Duh !

I'm not a troll. It's just that every time I give any input that deviates from the norm, I have to defend myself. Wouldn't you do the same?

Andrew, why didn't you mention the outsider opinion you gathered in your post, did I miss it?

Really, it wouldn't seem so troll like if you wouldn't respond on such a personal level.

I'm sure enough of my info to make such categorical statements. I don't deal in suppositions unless stated as such.

And you stated that what I said was my own unsupported opinion, which it isn't. You know me well enough, you know how I don't turn the other cheek. No autotune, no doubled vocals on this song.

[Menace Wilson]

Listening with headphones, I can hear the bassist occasionally sliding up and down the string between notes.  Either a real bass or a very good bass patch!

[brother john]

So the video has Brett sitting down, playing a bass on the track of "TLIILY"... and it proves nothing ?

Its a publicity film, not a documentary record of the recording of the album. All the films of Brian Wilson in the Studio are designed to make Brian look good and so much of the footage is obviously mocked up to make us think Brian is back at work like the old days. Admittedly they're getting better at making these films, and Brian does actually seem on top of things in this, but I don't think you can guarantee that the tracks being played in the film directly correspond to what ends up on the record. Its a simple observation.

[brother john]

Another disappointment is the use of a synth instead of an actual bass guitar. Its a shame, as a real bass would have added real warmth. Message Man from the TLOS sessions suffered from the same.

Ummmmmmm... check out the video on USA Today - Brett Simmons on bass (Fender ?) on "The Like I Love In You". I hear no synth bass.

Well I could be wrong about the bass, though the video has two different bass guitars on it and proves nothing.

And I still wish Brian would leave Taylor Mills out of the mix.

Why's that?

Well, she's hot and everything...

But I think she is one of the reasons that the backing vocal mix sounds so MOR, glossy-bland Swingle singers-style, as discussed above. I just prefer the sound of men's voices, and its not as if someone else couldn't sing her parts. She adds a minus-grit factor, and that's a shame.

[Wirestone]

That being said, I think the films vary. The studio footage of BW in the "Imagination" doc was staged outright. The XMas stuff was mimed, but Linett wrote on this board that it was an accurate representation of the sessions -- it's just that they only had one day to shoot. I seem to recall that the Smile and TLOS session footage is of the real thing. But yes, they'll edit the bejeebus out of it.

[jammer730]

Well, anybody else hear autotune, or some form of pitch correction, wanna back me up?

[brother john]

Listening with headphones, I can hear the bassist occasionally sliding up and down the string between notes.  Either a real bass or a very good bass patch!

Yeah, that's what convinced me I was probably wrong... 

[Andrew G. Doe]

So the video has Brett sitting down, playing a bass on the track of "TLIILY"... and it proves nothing ?

Its a publicity film, not a documentary record of the recording of the album. All the films of Brian Wilson in the Studio are designed to make Brian look good and so much of the footage is obviously mocked up to make us think Brian is back at work like the old days. Admittedly they're getting better at making these films, and Brian does actually seem on top of things in this, but I don't think you can guarantee that the tracks being played in the film directly correspond to what ends up on the record. Its a simple observation.

All the sessions were filmed, for later TV airing/DVD release. It's what they call a "documentary". This has been common knowledge since fall last year.

Have I somehow slipped into a parallel universe largely populated by people who have a serious problem with reality and the comprehension thereof ?

[Menace Wilson]

No autotune, no doubled vocals on this song.

Them vox is doubled.  However one is more prominent than the other.  Gives a nice effect.

[Wirestone]

It does sound a bit processed to me at points. But it's hard to say how much of that is a plug-in like auto tune, and how much is reverb, vocal punch-ins / ghosting or Brian just sounding weird in his upper range.

The most extreme BW auto tune is the Target CD -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8A_J4KSvRg  No question about that one. It's actually distracting. Unlike Smile, let's say, where's it's essentially used to add "oomph" to a few tough notes.

[brother john]

Well, anybody else hear autotune, or some form of pitch correction, wanna back me up?

Me!

'The Like In I Love You...' at 2.07. But I don't want to pull the song to pieces and criticise bits here and there. I think its great. The thing is, we've all heard him sing live, and we know that many artists who aren't 67 years old and can sing in tune use it to add a certain polish. Brian has freely admitted using it in the past (Smile, where its pretty obvious), and I'm glad he does.

And also, I hear doubling at 0.57 'the pain in painting...'  

[Wirestone]

Goodness -- we've clearly all been hungry for something new to chew over, haven't we?

 

[Shady]

Another disappointment is the use of a synth instead of an actual bass guitar. Its a shame, as a real bass would have added real warmth. Message Man from the TLOS sessions suffered from the same.

Ummmmmmm... check out the video on USA Today - Brett Simmons on bass (Fender ?) on "The Like I Love In You". I hear no synth bass.

Well I could be wrong about the bass, though the video has two different bass guitars on it and proves nothing.

And I still wish Brian would leave Taylor Mills out of the mix.

Why's that?

Well, she's hot and everything...

But I think she is one of the reasons that the backing vocal mix sounds so MOR, glossy-bland Swingle singers-style, as discussed above. I just prefer the sound of men's voices, and its not as if someone else couldn't sing her parts. She adds a minus-grit factor, and that's a shame.

That is a good point.

Keep her on stage though 

She's impressed me in a lot of songs though, on TLOS especially.

[Foster's Freeze]

As if people aren't pissed off enough over Al doing "Help Me Rhonda" on his album.  

[brother john]

Have I somehow slipped into a parallel universe largely populated by people who have a serious problem with reality and the comprehension thereof ?

No, just people who don't agree with everything you say and have their own opinions.

You're very knowledgeable about many things, but no-one can be right all the time.  

Anyway, lets not get sidetracked into pointlessness. There's a new Brian Wilson record coming out soon. Yay!

[brother john]

Goodness -- we've clearly all been hungry for something new to chew over, haven't we?

 

Starving! And I have no real friends... 

[Wirestone]

And can I say I wish that Brian included synth bass on all his records?

[Don_Zabu]

Only 2 unfinished Gershwin pieces out of 100? Awwww.

[Andrew G. Doe]

And can I say I wish that Brian included synth bass on all his records?

No, sir, you may not - kindly leave the auditorium immediately ! 

[hypehat]

Another disappointment is the use of a synth instead of an actual bass guitar. Its a shame, as a real bass would have added real warmth. Message Man from the TLOS sessions suffered from the same.

Ummmmmmm... check out the video on USA Today - Brett Simmons on bass (Fender ?) on "The Like I Love In You". I hear no synth bass.

Well I could be wrong about the bass, though the video has two different bass guitars on it and proves nothing.

And I still wish Brian would leave Taylor Mills out of the mix.

Why's that?

Well, she's hot and everything...

But I think she is one of the reasons that the backing vocal mix sounds so MOR, glossy-bland Swingle singers-style, as discussed above. I just prefer the sound of men's voices, and its not as if someone else couldn't sing her parts. She adds a minus-grit factor, and that's a shame.

Yeah, because the rest of them sound like they gargle gravel and whiskey every morning, right? Why Taylor as opposed to Jeff, or Darian, or any of them? Their voices are interchangable.

Brian's band just lack a low-end - Nick isn't deep enough and Brian hasn't really got the lungs.

I couldn't get that Feinstein thing to work, but Spotify found a medley with it in - Bears a slight resemblance...
http://open.spotify.com/track/2Mek8xc1IKoHuCeqLZYptb

[smile-holland]

Another disappointment is the use of a synth instead of an actual bass guitar. Its a shame, as a real bass would have added real warmth. Message Man from the TLOS sessions suffered from the same.

Ummmmmmm... check out the video on USA Today - Brett Simmons on bass (Fender ?) on "The Like I Love In You". I hear no synth bass.

Well I could be wrong about the bass, though the video has two different bass guitars on it and proves nothing.

And I still wish Brian would leave Taylor Mills out of the mix.

So the video has Brett sitting down, playing a bass on the track of "TLIILY"... and it proves nothing ?

Why the F.U.C.K. am I wasting my time beating my head against the brick wall of such complete idiocy ?  Hey, I bet you believe the moon landings were faked, don't you ?  And that evolutionary theory is a commie plot ? Go away, stop bothering us with your inanities.

PS: bass on "Message Man" is Bob Lizik. I asked him, he told me.  Time to visit an audiologist.

aaaaaaannnnnnd.... instead of celebrating a nice little new recording from our musical hero we start quarrelling about it. Some folks happen to have more background information, others don’t. Some people hear/see things differently. Nothing to get all fussed up about, even if it takes some time to convince someone.
And, don't worry AGD, I believe you. 

C’mon you all, enjoy the song, the video, try to like Al’s album as well     , and be happy! (...and we'll have world peace...)

[Menace Wilson]

And can I say I wish that Brian included synth bass on all his records?

I'm going to pretend that "duplicate the universe" is a nod to Love You. 

[GoofyJeff]

And can I say I wish that Brian included synth bass on all his records?

I'm going to pretend that "duplicate the universe" is a nod to Love You.  

LOL... would be more appropriate if the line was "duplicate the Solar System".  But perhaps this still works because not only can we duplicate the Solar System, we can duplicate the whole flippin universe now!  

[?]

Have I somehow slipped into a parallel universe largely populated by people who have a serious problem with reality and the comprehension thereof ?

There's a great blueboard joke to be made here...nah, too easy. 

USA Today video was class.  I am so stoked for this album!