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« Reply #4575 on: January 07, 2014, 09:48:30 PM »
Quote from: jcjh20 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
Did Brian write the lyrics and melody to "At My Window"? That was always a song I was confused about. I know the backing track was originally a cover of "Raspberries And Strawberries", an idea by Al, but I never found out what Al did and what Brian did to get a credit on this particular song after it was redeveloped and released. It's just such a beautiful track and the lyrics sound like Brian's creation, but it's something that is usually always just attributed as an Al song for some reason.

It's possible Brian wrote the melody and lyrics. In the 1976 televised interview, he seemed really enthusiastic about the song when the interviewer brought up Sunflower.

I think I read that Al produced the backing track, though.
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« Reply #4576 on: January 09, 2014, 10:44:43 PM »
Who was Ron Wilson and why did Brian spend so much time recording his tune "We're Together Again"?
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« Reply #4577 on: January 09, 2014, 11:45:51 PM »
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Who was Ron Wilson and why did Brian spend so much time recording his tune "We're Together Again"?
I assume it's the same Ron Wilson that Brian produced the single for in 68:I'll keep on Lovin You/As Teara Go by. (Source: http://www.surfermoon.com/essays/bwprods.html)
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« Reply #4578 on: January 10, 2014, 09:19:02 AM »
http://youtu.be/xk1pRu40TmE?t=9m21s

Did Bruce frequently play saxophone? Did Brian frequently play keytar? With Jimmy Page playing guitar, this is an absolutely insane version of Barbara Ann.
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« Reply #4579 on: January 10, 2014, 12:11:49 PM »
I seem to remember having an mp3 of a recording/session of To Sir With Love from the late 70s with Brian singing with another guy, was it Rocky Pamplin? I remember it being kinda sparse in instrumentation, was this ever intended for a American Spring or another side project?
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« Reply #4580 on: January 10, 2014, 03:17:09 PM »
That was indeed Rocky, and the performance of both Brian and he was truly lamentable.
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« Reply #4581 on: January 10, 2014, 03:27:35 PM »
Now there's one I think I'm glad I missed out on!
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« Reply #4582 on: January 11, 2014, 05:03:08 AM »
Quote from: jcjh20 on January 09, 2014, 10:44:43 PM
Who was Ron Wilson and why did Brian spend so much time recording his tune "We're Together Again"?

I think he is the same as this one, but I'm not sure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wilson_(drummer)

My perverse opinion is he should have joined the Beach Boys after Dennis' death. Evil
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« Reply #4583 on: January 11, 2014, 09:59:17 AM »
Micha, it's been established for, oh, over 30 years that this is an entirely different Ron Wilson.

BTW, the last few Wikipedia links you've kindly posted have left the final ) off.  Smiley
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« Reply #4584 on: January 11, 2014, 02:21:30 PM »
Was listening to Dennis Mitchell's Breakfast with the Beatles- episode 1168- White Album with Happy Nat...anyways there was a recording with Kenny Everett interviewing John (around the time Paul, George, and Ringo were recording Don't Pass Me By) and John plays a "basterdized" version of Cotton Fields. I was really surprised to hear that. I don't know my dates off hand but was this way before Al/Brian did their version for 20/20? Assuming it's before the single version. Just wondering if one inspired the other or if it's coincidence. Either way, pretty cool recording!
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« Reply #4585 on: January 11, 2014, 02:27:31 PM »
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Was listening to Dennis Mitchell's Breakfast with the Beatles- episode 1168- White Album with Happy Nat...anyways there was a recording with Kenny Everett interviewing John (around the time Paul, George, and Ringo were recording Don't Pass Me By) and John plays a "basterdized" version of Cotton Fields. I was really surprised to hear that. I don't know my dates off hand but was this way before Al/Brian did their version for 20/20? Assuming it's before the single version. Just wondering if one inspired the other or if it's coincidence. Either way, pretty cool recording!

Wikipedia says Don't pass Me By was recorded on June 5 1968...Andrew Doe's Session/Shows section on his site says 20/20 version of Cotton Fields wasn't recorded til mid November 1968. There were some 20/20 sessions being recorded in June of 68 but not CF.

Case Closed (unless someone has more info, in that case you can open it back up)  Wink
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« Reply #4586 on: January 14, 2014, 06:41:22 AM »
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Micha, it's been established for, oh, over 30 years that this is an entirely different Ron Wilson.

BTW, the last few Wikipedia links you've kindly posted have left the final ) off.  Smiley


Thank you very much for clearing that up! Smiley Is there some info on the other Ron Wilson of "We're Together Again" somewhere?

And I'll be more careful with posting links, promise! Smiley
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« Reply #4587 on: January 14, 2014, 09:11:03 AM »
Quote from: Micha on January 14, 2014, 06:41:22 AM
Quote from: The Legendary AGD on January 11, 2014, 09:59:17 AM
Micha, it's been established for, oh, over 30 years that this is an entirely different Ron Wilson.

BTW, the last few Wikipedia links you've kindly posted have left the final ) off.  Smiley


Thank you very much for clearing that up! Smiley Is there some info on the other Ron Wilson of "We're Together Again" somewhere?

And I'll be more careful with posting links, promise! Smiley
I don't know much about him but I'm pretty sure brian produced a single for him around the same time: I'll Keep on Loving You/As Tears Go By and what I wouldn't do to hear those two tunes, I wonder what they sound like coming from this era. These are two perfect contenders for a Pet Projects Vol 2!


(http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/productions.html)
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« Reply #4588 on: January 14, 2014, 09:37:10 AM »
Frankly, they're nothing to get worked up about and had I not been told Brian co-produced them, I'd never have guessed or suspected.
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« Reply #4589 on: January 14, 2014, 11:04:49 AM »
Quote from: The Legendary AGD on January 14, 2014, 09:37:10 AM
Frankly, they're nothing to get worked up about and had I not been told Brian co-produced them, I'd never have guessed or suspected.
Really? I guess I have heard you say that once or twice. If you were to compare them to a BW song (sounds wise), what would it be?
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« Reply #4590 on: January 14, 2014, 11:55:58 AM »
Try them here: 

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http://chirb.it/yPA8Dh
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« Reply #4591 on: January 14, 2014, 12:30:38 PM »
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Quote from: jcjh20 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
Did Brian write the lyrics and melody to "At My Window"? That was always a song I was confused about. I know the backing track was originally a cover of "Raspberries And Strawberries", an idea by Al, but I never found out what Al did and what Brian did to get a credit on this particular song after it was redeveloped and released. It's just such a beautiful track and the lyrics sound like Brian's creation, but it's something that is usually always just attributed as an Al song for some reason.

It's possible Brian wrote the melody and lyrics. In the 1976 televised interview, he seemed really enthusiastic about the song when the interviewer brought up Sunflower.

I think I read that Al produced the backing track, though.

Brian also picked At My Window as a track which we came close to including on his Brian Wilson presents BB Classics CD, so I guess he still really likes it.
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« Reply #4592 on: January 14, 2014, 02:19:00 PM »
Has anybody yet acquired the Isn't It Time instrumental? Surely someone has the radio promo by now...
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« Reply #4593 on: January 14, 2014, 03:56:07 PM »
The Ron Wilson 45: just had a listen for the first time in years, and I'm thinking that maybe Brian had nothing to do with it whatsoever, or if he did he just stuck his head through the control room door and nodded when asked what he thought. It's way too bland, too anonymous for a 1968 BW (co)production. It was recorded June 28th. Compared with tracks we know Brian did produce in roughly the same timeframe - "I Went To Sleep", "Walk On By", "Ol' Man River" and, of course, "Do It Again" - I'd say the chances the same Brian was responsible for "IKOLY" are the slender side of very slim (although granted, the 45 was recorded at ID sound, which was his studio du jour at this time when not using the home setup).

The label credit is "Produced by Ron-Brian Music Productiuon" and "Arranged and Conducted by Al Capps". I think I just moved this one to the "pending better proof & documentation" file.
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« Reply #4594 on: January 14, 2014, 04:03:14 PM »
Quote from: The Legendary AGD on January 14, 2014, 03:56:07 PM
The Ron Wilson 45: just had a listen for the first time in years, and I'm thinking that maybe Brian had nothing to do with it whatsoever, or if he did he just stuck his head through the control room door and nodded when asked what he thought. It's way too bland, too anonymous for a 1968 BW (co)production. It was recorded June 28th. Compared with tracks we know Brian did produce in roughly the same timeframe - "I Went To Sleep", "Walk On By", "Ol' Man River" and, of course, "Do It Again" - I'd say the chances the same Brian was responsible for "IKOLY" are the slender side of very slim (although granted, the 45 was recorded at ID sound, which was his studio du jour at this time when not using the home setup).

The label credit is "Produced by Ron-Brian Music Productiuon" and "Arranged and Conducted by Al Capps". I think I just moved this one to the "pending better proof & documentation" file.

Yeah, as I was listening to them, I thought much the same; Bland is as good a description as I could put on them. Uninspiring to the max. Still,  I posted them so everyone could suffer...

Quote from: bgas on January 14, 2014, 11:55:58 AM
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« Reply #4595 on: January 14, 2014, 04:05:34 PM »
And suffer I just did.  Thanks for the links tho' - nifty little site
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« Reply #4596 on: January 14, 2014, 04:08:40 PM »
Brian also produced "We're Together Again" right? You'd think he'd try to give the other songs the same magical arrangements. Maybe this "Al Capps" is to blame.
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« Reply #4597 on: January 14, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »
Thanks for posting bgas.  Now I can say I heard them.    Not exactly suffer, but...Agree, bland.  Nothing there that reminds me of Brian. 
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« Reply #4598 on: January 14, 2014, 08:40:09 PM »
Quote from: bgas on January 14, 2014, 11:55:58 AM
Try them here: 

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Thank you BGAS! I've been wanting to hear these for years, and I agree with Andrew, they don't sound Brian Wilson or Beach Boy-like at all.
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« Reply #4599 on: January 17, 2014, 08:25:46 PM »
My LP of Surfer Girl (Capitol T1981) says Little Surfer Girl on the spine and "Little Surfer Girl" under SIDE ONE on the back... Is this normal?
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