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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2010, 09:50:47 AM »

I am curious: Did Marvin Gaye ever meet Brian or the Beach Boys? Or did he ever comment on them in any way?


I'd say so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zhTP_iCkc&feature=related


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Well, I forgot that you get a better quality performance in the last link of the Shindig!-performance

I did mean something a little more substantial than "we met at a TV performance" but I guess if that's as far as any interaction went... welp.
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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2010, 09:51:56 AM »

This was probably answered before but I don't remember. Did Brian also sing on Collin Raye's "Winter wonderland" when the BBs did back him up? And was it done during the S&S-sessions? Love their singing on this recording

Yes, Brian's on it... as for when it was recorded, no idea, but during the S&S would seem logical.


Thanks. It's a very nice performance and should be known better imo

It's possible that this was the very last time The Beach Boys were all in the studio together. Either this or "In My Room" w/Tammy.
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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2010, 09:55:20 AM »

I am curious: Did Marvin Gaye ever meet Brian or the Beach Boys? Or did he ever comment on them in any way?


I'd say so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zhTP_iCkc&feature=related


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Well, I forgot that you get a better quality performance in the last link of the Shindig!-performance

I did mean something a little more substantial than "we met at a TV performance" but I guess if that's as far as any interaction went... welp.

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« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2010, 12:13:22 PM »

BTW, never saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPwuHDitCH0
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« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2010, 12:37:29 PM »

The 'Boys and Marvin Gaye were also part of the TAMI Show.
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« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2010, 03:06:03 PM »

i stuck this on today, and was struck by how awful the first side is! I mean, it's barely produced - not even sleighbells on a freakin' christmas album!

I still like the second side in it's schmaltz and cheese. Santa Claus is Coming to Town, on the other hand, is one of the worst things the group ever did. It's horrific.... If you A-B the songs Spector did and the songs The BB's did, Spector wins. Apart from White Christmas, which is a tie. I still like it, but it's still half a great record. We Three Kings is spellbinding.
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« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2010, 03:27:46 PM »

not fair to compare spector to the beachboys.......or comparing wilson love to lennon mccartney

no one else tried or succeeded in doing it ALL like Brian Wilson did.......

a christmas gift for you was a dozen vocalists, a wrecking crew , levine, and nitzsche.....of course its all good........great akbum........but
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« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2010, 03:34:19 PM »

i stuck this on today, and was struck by how awful the first side is! I mean, it's barely produced - not even sleighbells on a freakin' christmas album!

I still like the second side in it's schmaltz and cheese. Santa Claus is Coming to Town, on the other hand, is one of the worst things the group ever did. It's horrific.... If you A-B the songs Spector did and the songs The BB's did, Spector wins. Apart from White Christmas, which is a tie. I still like it, but it's still half a great record. We Three Kings is spellbinding.

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« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2010, 04:39:49 PM »

What??? Really? I never heard that the Usher Christmas song was released.

And Nicko, I'm not familiar with any of the song being reused -- although "Just Say No" from the same sessions recycles "Wind Chimes."

how is it recycled?
are we talking the Smile version or Smiley?
What compares between the two songs?

nobody knows?
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« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2010, 04:49:03 PM »

What??? Really? I never heard that the Usher Christmas song was released.

And Nicko, I'm not familiar with any of the song being reused -- although "Just Say No" from the same sessions recycles "Wind Chimes."

how is it recycled?
are we talking the Smile version or Smiley?
What compares between the two songs?

nobody knows?

Wirestone probably knows; send him a PM
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« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2010, 01:04:00 AM »

not fair to compare spector to the beachboys.......or comparing wilson love to lennon mccartney

no one else tried or succeeded in doing it ALL like Brian Wilson did.......

a christmas gift for you was a dozen vocalists, a wrecking crew , levine, and nitzsche.....of course its all good........great akbum........but

Brian had a similar wealth of talent around him(Dick Reynolds, the group, etc), but i get you.

bgas, if that snide post was supposed to make sense, i'm afraid you've lost me.
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« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2010, 08:44:41 AM »

What??? Really? I never heard that the Usher Christmas song was released.

And Nicko, I'm not familiar with any of the song being reused -- although "Just Say No" from the same sessions recycles "Wind Chimes."

how is it recycled?
are we talking the Smile version or Smiley?
What compares between the two songs?

nobody knows?

Wirestone probably knows; send him a PM

btw, what's your avatar?
where'd you get it from?
I'd like to see a bigger version.
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« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2010, 08:54:56 AM »

What??? Really? I never heard that the Usher Christmas song was released.

And Nicko, I'm not familiar with any of the song being reused -- although "Just Say No" from the same sessions recycles "Wind Chimes."

how is it recycled?
are we talking the Smile version or Smiley?
What compares between the two songs?

nobody knows?

Wirestone probably knows; send him a PM

btw, what's your avatar?
where'd you get it from?
I'd like to see a bigger version.

at the moment? 
A Capitol/Brother Records Promotional In-store standup display piece. 
It was for sale, once, At Rockaway, from where I took the pic.
 $850 was more than I wanted to spend; tho never having seen another makes me wish I had unlimited funds....
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« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2010, 09:04:22 AM »

What??? Really? I never heard that the Usher Christmas song was released.

And Nicko, I'm not familiar with any of the song being reused -- although "Just Say No" from the same sessions recycles "Wind Chimes."

how is it recycled?
are we talking the Smile version or Smiley?
What compares between the two songs?

nobody knows?

Wirestone probably knows; send him a PM

btw, what's your avatar?
where'd you get it from?
I'd like to see a bigger version.

at the moment? 
A Capitol/Brother Records Promotional In-store standup display piece. 
It was for sale, once, At Rockaway, from where I took the pic.
 $850 was more than I wanted to spend; tho never having seen another makes me wish I had unlimited funds....
that's amazing...you think you could PM me a bigger version of it. i'd love to see it up close.
also, i'll be in your will if you want me to...all i want is that little thing in your avatar.  LOL
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« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2010, 09:08:12 AM »

HUh; I went to  do the PM( right before you mentioned it) but I coudn't find a place to add an attachment; meaning I'd have to upload it somwhere, which I haven't done. 
A project for another day
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« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2010, 09:23:09 AM »

I have to admit, the first side does sound rather basic and underproduced when you compare it to "All Summer Long" the previous 'proper' album. Makes you wonder if the idea for the record came from Brian or Capitol.
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« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2010, 09:33:07 AM »

I have to admit, the first side does sound rather basic and underproduced when you compare it to "All Summer Long" the previous 'proper' album. Makes you wonder if the idea for the record came from Brian or Capitol.
An interesting question, tho I'm not sure I see why it matters.  
I see it as a simple case of Brian planning one side of the  BBs playing and singing and one of their vocals backed by fuller Orchestral arrangements.
Taking it a bit farther: Brian was expanding his musical vision, but I think he wanted to take their fans with them; So, do songs in the BBs "style", and show what they can do there, and then pull them along with more fully orchestrated arrangements. Where , maybe, Brian could see himself headed at the time.
 ASL hadn't been released when they started recording Xmas, so it's hard to imagine Brian feeling pressured by Capitol, as they wouldn't yet OWE them an LP.
Maybe Brian was cognizant of Capitol's Album pressures, and thought doing the Xmas at that time, would give him more freedom to take time recording what he really wanted , and not being rushed.
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« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2010, 09:22:39 AM »

We Three Kings deserves a vocals only release!
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« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2010, 10:51:23 AM »

We Three Kings deserves a vocals only release!

I'll second that!  We Three Kings is an absolutely incredible BBs vocal performance.

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« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2010, 11:00:07 AM »

We Three Kings deserves a vocals only release!

I'll second that!  We Three Kings is an absolutely incredible BBs vocal performance.




Oh yeah. Just listen to the acapella performance on Shindig. Really awesome. It is reminding of "Prayer"
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« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2010, 06:29:25 PM »

Wouldn't your jaw just drop is Brian performed a couple of Christmas rarities specially for download on his site? (like he has before)

Or wouldn't it be great to see him on a tv special/talk show perform: Child Of Winter or Winter Symphony?

Heck, I know it might be blasphemy, but what about Brian performing Dennis' Holy Holy (Christmas Morning).
In the words of George Martin: "This band can do it."
I could just imagine those great vibes and bells....you got Paul M. on that bass harmonica.  Brian possibly playing that beautiful piano part (also from Common). Brian could handle those low low Dennis vocals....the backing vocals with the band would be tremendous.
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